Name the 6 core pieces.

every team has good players. Problem is majority of the other teams good players trump the flyers by a good margin. At least you included the usually "if" scenario.

amazing how one can be this delusional on a daily basis.
- hello it's me 2050

Where did you get the number 6? I already did post the current veteran core of this team and its a pretty good list of players with a track record of success in the NHL in their respective positions.

This makes no sense. I just posted word for word the entire quote. Do you still want to believe fantasy or believe reality?

In your opinion, do the Flyers not have a good core of players? Hart, Ellis, Provorov, Sanheim, Risto, Couturier, Hayes, Laughton, Farabee and Atkinson. These are not good players?? You can't build on top of these players and create a contending team??
- jd250

compare that core to others. Then get back me.

What are you building with those players? Mediocrity?

Disclaimer: I hate the Rags with a passion.

Remember a few years ago when the management of the Rags sent a letter to their fans essentially apologizing and saying that they were gonna tear it down and rebuild? Honesty to the fan base. Honesty to the players. They are just a few years from that letter and three games away from a Stanley Cup Final appearance. They made shrewd trades, lured Breadman, evaluated their talent when resigning Kreider, drafted and developed some young studs, and here they are. And as a bonus, as much as I hate their goal song, it’s awesome and they’ve had it for a while, not like that stupid techno crap thing they selected this past year in Philly.

Where did you get the number 6? I already did post the current veteran core of this team and its a pretty good list of players with a track record of success in the NHL in their respective positions.
- jd250

6 is a number a former one time excellent GM said you need to build around. So I use that number as my core players.

The list you provide is bottom 1/3 of the league easily as far as cores go. Pretty good list, it is average fn andy.

There is no BS narrative. Only your semantics spin.

As far as narratives are concerned. Take a look at every roster in the NHL. Compare it to the Flyers. You aren't even aware of your own comments. You go on and on about needing elite talent to contend. To be a top team. Who makes up the elite players for the future in the Flyers core? There are non currently,

So instead of telling people what they should stop with. I would suggest focusing on your own comments. Find just a smidgeon of consistency somehow and hopefully some knowledge and get your own house in order. The first step of self analysis is that you find yourself in agreement with Scott.
- MJL

Yes, I do believe that Scott and Fletcher are correct in this regard, and I am very happy to state it! Every team needs a solid core to build on. Some teams like Edmonton pick at the top of the draft every year and get a McDavid, Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins to build around. Other teams, like the Flyers, build a core group and then add top end pieces to it. There is not just one way to build a team! if the Flyers were like Tampa or Edmonton, or even the Rangers they would be picking high in the draft and getting this talent, but unlike those franchises, the Flyers didn't tank so they must build the team a different way. There is really nothing hard about understanding this ... but then again we are talking about you now.

Disclaimer: I hate the Rags with a passion.

Remember a few years ago when the management of the Rags sent a letter to their fans essentially apologizing and saying that they were gonna tear it down and rebuild? Honesty to the fan base. Honesty to the players. They are just a few years from that letter and three games away from a Stanley Cup Final appearance. They made shrewd trades, lured Breadman, evaluated their talent when resigning Kreider, drafted and developed some young studs, and here they are. And as a bonus, as much as I hate their goal song, it’s awesome and they’ve had it for a while, not like that stupid techno crap thing they selected this past year in Philly.
- mikeyo27

The Rangers rebuild has taken much longer than 3 years. They were aided by Panarin and Fox only wanting to play there. Not a model to emulate.

compare that core to others. Then get back me.

What are you building with those players? Mediocrity?
- hello it's me 2050

So Hart, Ellis and Couturier are not top-end or potential top-end players?

Disclaimer: I hate the Rags with a passion.

Remember a few years ago when the management of the Rags sent a letter to their fans essentially apologizing and saying that they were gonna tear it down and rebuild? Honesty to the fan base. Honesty to the players. They are just a few years from that letter and three games away from a Stanley Cup Final appearance. They made shrewd trades, lured Breadman, evaluated their talent when resigning Kreider, drafted and developed some young studs, and here they are. And as a bonus, as much as I hate their goal song, it’s awesome and they’ve had it for a while, not like that stupid techno crap thing they selected this past year in Philly.
- mikeyo27

also hate the rangers, though want them to win it all as it embarrasses the flyers just a little more than the other teams.

Cant trade ex selke. Need to keep him around to help groom the young players the next 5 years. Then by year 6 hope they can contend.....

If had to keep one of Hayes or ex selke who do you keep?
- hello it's me 2050

You keep Hayes… contract expires sooner

So Hart, Ellis and Couturier are not top-end or potential top-end players?
- jd250

Ellis and e selke are not top end.

"Potential" top end. Look at other teams who have top end already. Then look at their potential top end. flyers light years behind

Yes, I do believe that Scott and Fletcher are correct in this regard, and I am very happy to state it! Every team needs a solid core to build on. Some teams like Edmonton pick at the top of the draft every year and get a McDavid, Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins to build around. Other teams, like the Flyers, build a core group and then add top end pieces to it. There is not just one way to build a team! if the Flyers were like Tampa or Edmonton, or even the Rangers they would be picking high in the draft and getting this talent, but unlike those franchises, the Flyers didn't tank so they must build the team a different way. There is really nothing hard about understanding this ... but then again we are talking about you now.
- jd250

Of course you believe that Scott and Fletcher are correct. You green light everything they say and do. You contradict yourself repeatedly and change your position as much as the wind shifts. You also don't understand what makes up a core to build around.

Apparently there is something hard to understand because you don't understand it.

You keep Hayes… contract expires sooner
- Stayin alive

plus I dont think his game will suffer or differ in those years. He will be the same imo even 4 years from now.

plus I dont think his game will suffer or differ in those years. He will be the same imo even 4 years from now.
- hello it's me 2050

It's a tough decision, I believe over the next 4 years Coots will continue to be the much better player.... but there is still 4 years left after that.

I would still try to see if Boston would take Hayes, even if having to eat $1.5 for the next 4 years.

So Hart, Ellis and Couturier are not top-end or potential top-end players?
- jd250

Hart is the only one with a chance to reach that level. Couturier and Ellis are really good players but neither are or will be elite.

The quote from Scott was "We have a pretty good core, it starts with a healthy Couts, Hayes, Farabee, would love to to have Ellis back, but when you look at that reality of it, 2 or 3 pieces would be great, maybe a little more, but the core of the team is good".

So just all of you stop with the BS narrative. The fact is the core of this team IS GOOD! The Flyers have some good players and if healthy those players will provide a solid foundation to build upon. This is not going to be a 5 year process to get this team back to contention!
- jd250

I mean this as no offense at at but you’re a moron. Just because THEY said the “core” is good does not make it so. I say the sky is purple. Who gives a (frank). Even assuming those players were healthy compared to most team and especially the legit top half of league the “core” you defend sucks. You are a moron if you think otherwise.

Again I don’t mean that to be offensive. At best obtuse if not moronic

Niemi was only a little better. If the Flyers simply had an average goalie that series, they would have won IMO.
- jd250

Yea, would have been nice right.

There is no BS narrative. Only your semantics spin.

As far as narratives are concerned. Take a look at every roster in the NHL. Compare it to the Flyers. You aren't even aware of your own comments. You go on and on about needing elite talent to contend. To be a top team. Who makes up the elite players for the future in the Flyers core? There are non currently,

So instead of telling people what they should stop with. I would suggest focusing on your own comments. Find just a smidgeon of consistency somehow and hopefully some knowledge and get your own house in order. The first step of self analysis is that you find yourself in agreement with Scott.

You're right, this is not going to be a 5 year process. It's going to be longer.
- MJL

+5 for using the word of the day.

I'd put Gaudreau ahead of him but I don't want the Flyers to go after either player.
- MJL

In a perfect world, the Flyers would stay out of UFA, but since they're not gonna do that, I'd rather they go all in on Forsberg than anybody else. He's not undersized, plays that 200-ft game that won't get him benched by whatever hardass coach the Flyers hire next, and he would probably gel with Coots or Hayes.

Edit: double post, get a new freakin' server Ek, you cheap ass.

In a perfect world, the Flyers would stay out of UFA, but since they're not gonna do that, I'd rather they go all in on Forsberg than anybody else. He's not undersized, plays that 200-ft game that won't get him benched by whatever hardass coach the Flyers hire next, and he would probably gel with Coots or Hayes.
- Tomahawk

One can hope. They can't afford to pay the premium it will take to lure someone here who would then be willing to lose for the length of the contract. The team is in no position to get even more top heavy when they have so many holes that need to be filled all over the lineup.

Edit: double post, get a new freakin' server Ek, you cheap ass.
- Tomahawk

He needs to update to a Commodore 65

This makes no sense. I just posted word for word the entire quote. Do you still want to believe fantasy or believe reality?

In your opinion, do the Flyers not have a good core of players? Hart, Ellis, Provorov, Sanheim, Risto, Couturier, Hayes, Laughton, Farabee and Atkinson. These are not good players?? You can't build on top of these players and create a contending team??
- jd250

Again look around… no you can not build around them.

You build around top end talent and elite talent. Not average at best players.

Why you don’t get that is dumbfounding. And honestly thought nah this guy (frank)ing around but you really aren’t. You really believe.

Like someone said days ago… you don’t know hockey at all. Take up checkers or chess

This makes no sense. I just posted word for word the entire quote. Do you still want to believe fantasy or believe reality?

In your opinion, do the Flyers not have a good core of players? Hart, Ellis, Provorov, Sanheim, Risto, Couturier, Hayes, Laughton, Farabee and Atkinson. These are not good players?? You can't build on top of these players and create a contending team??
- jd250

Actually no. Not in their current cap situation. You said it yourself, they have to build ON TOP of these players. Out of all the names you mentioned, I only see Couturier as a top line player and Hart as a potential franchise goalie. The rest are good second and third liners. The team doesn't have enough cap space to sign a difference maker and nor should they. They need 2 top line wingers IMO, a top pair dman, a good backup goalie, and a second or high end third line center.

Fletcher has them in cap hell as they have all these expensive needs and no way to afford them.

Actually no. Not in their current cap situation. You said it yourself, they have to build ON TOP of these players. Out of all the names you mentioned, I only see Couturier as a top line player and Hart as a potential franchise goalie. The rest are good second and third liners. The team doesn't have enough cap space to sign a difference maker and nor should they. They need 2 top line wingers IMO, a top pair dman, a good backup goalie, and a second or high end third line center.

Fletcher has them in cap hell as they have all these expensive needs and no way to afford them.
- MBFlyerfan

they're in the worst position they can be in. Cap hell and they stink.

He needs to update to a Commodore 65
- MBFlyerfan

He's hanging on to Web 1.0 for dear life.