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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
Ok Chicago blog

If Murphy gets a first I'll eat my socks

Solid top 4 Rd than can hit
Was traded for harllson sp
And he's no harllson

- Anderdog


I talked to them a few weeks ago about the exact same thing. Murphy is values slightly more by their fan base than Risto was by our fan base - that should tell you all you need to know. They wanted the Vegas first but said they would settle for Paterka.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 2 @ 12:33 PM ET
Question
Is Murphy better than joker ?
If he's a bottom pairing guy
Is it better to sign grudbranson or shenn for that role ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
The last 3yrs he's Averaged almost 69% Dzone starts, he plays 21min a night. It's gonna happen
- Buff36

he checks a lot of boxes
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
I talked to them a few weeks ago about the exact same thing. Murphy is values slightly more by their fan base than Risto was by our fan base - that should tell you all you need to know. They wanted the Vegas first but said they would settle for Paterka.
- Slump Buster



Ok
That's nuts
Was ready to let risto go for a 4 th
I was wrong on value
But I think Philadelphia overpaid
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 12:38 PM ET
Question
Is Murphy better than joker ?
If he's a bottom pairing guy
Is it better to sign grudbranson or shenn for that role ?

- Anderdog

I think Murphy is different then Joker, not necessarily better nor worse

I don't think schenn or gudbranson can be counted for 20 minutes a night where murphy can

murphy has much more upside of course

murphy or ceci are 2 guys I would target in a trade for middle pair



Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 12:42 PM ET
I think Murphy is different then Joker, not necessarily better nor worse

I don't think schenn or gudbranson can be counted for 20 minutes a night where murphy can

murphy has much more upside of course

murphy or ceci are 2 guys I would target in a trade for middle pair

- homiedclown

Plus I will take those 150 blocked shots ayear and the 120 hits or so
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
These guys aren't robots. One size doesn't fit all.


If Rosen is still built like a teenager, why get him destroyed at the ahl level?

Getting your head kicked in by a bunch of ex NHL vets will not help him develop properly.

1 more in the shl 2023
1 year in the ahl / late season call up 2024

- Boss34


Rosen will be fine he's on a Better development path and buffalo planned this
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
4 picks in the top 41 for 2022 draft

just a friendly reminder
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
Lance...

Victor Olofsson’s contract status is the most notable issue up front. He’s a pending restricted free agent after totaling 20 goals, despite playing through a wrist injury. The Sabres can simply give Olofsson a qualifying offer and take the case to arbitration, if necessary. A trade is more likely than a long-term contract because they need to plan to pay their young players in the not-so-distant future, particularly Tage Thompson.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
Lance...

Victor Olofsson’s contract status is the most notable issue up front. He’s a pending restricted free agent after totaling 20 goals, despite playing through a wrist injury. The Sabres can simply give Olofsson a qualifying offer and take the case to arbitration, if necessary. A trade is more likely than a long-term contract because they need to plan to pay their young players in the not-so-distant future, particularly Tage Thompson.

- Powerslave

Was that from yesterday?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
FitzMagic is calling it a Career. Funny if he came back here in some form.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Plus I will take those 150 blocked shots ayear and the 120 hits or so
- Buff36


I am always skeptical of blocked shots. It seems as though if a D was better at getting the puck out of his zone (and not letting it back in) then his blocked shots would be lower.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 2 @ 1:12 PM ET
Qeen Elizabeth of England at 96 and serving for 70 year looks to have more on the ball than the current POTUS.
- IonSabres


She also probably knows how to spell "queen"
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 1:17 PM ET
I am always skeptical of blocked shots. It seems as though if a D was better at getting the puck out of his zone (and not letting it back in) then his blocked shots would be lower.
- Slump Buster

Could be, but when you are starting in your zone 69% of the time, that's a lot of start zone time.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 2 @ 1:19 PM ET
yes.. can we get a guy that we know can hang in the NHL?
- SabresFaninIndiana


Would you use Joker as trade bait for proven, defensively stout 2RhD...then resign Pysyk for 3rd pair?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
Would you use Joker as trade bait for proven, defensively stout 2RhD...then resign Pysyk for 3rd pair?
- IonSabres

No, I would use Joker and then go sign Gubs, Lyubushkin, Braun
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:23 PM ET
Could be, but when you are starting in your zone 69% of the time, that's a lot of start zone time.
- Buff36


Usually, stats packs don't use or reference neutral zone or on the fly starts, as they only compare offensive to defensive zone starts and use percentages based off that.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:24 PM ET
Was that from yesterday?
- Buff36


It was from what Lance wrote yesterday, and it was baloney, IMO.

Acting like a large contract extension for Tage means they can't sign Olofsson to a long term contract is nonsense.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 1:25 PM ET
Was that from yesterday?
- Buff36



Yeah. I'm sure you posted the article (you're good like that), but i wasn't sure.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
Yeah. I'm sure you posted the article (you're good like that), but i wasn't sure.
- Powerslave

No, I think dog did.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 1:31 PM ET
Usually, stats packs don't use or reference neutral zone or on the fly starts, as they only compare offensive to defensive zone starts and use percentages based off that.
- kingcong39

True
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 2 @ 1:32 PM ET
It was from what Lance wrote yesterday, and it was baloney, IMO.

Acting like a large contract extension for Tage means they can't sign Olofsson to a long term contract is nonsense.

- kingcong39

Yeah, I don't get that.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:34 PM ET
True
- Buff36


Per Evolving Hockey for Connor Murphy, last season:

Zone Starts
Offensive = 6.79%
Neutral = 16.94%
Defensive = 11.42%
On The Fly = 64.85%

Faceoffs
Offensive = 23.07%
Neutral = 37.38%
Defensive = 39.55%
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 2 @ 1:37 PM ET
Usually, stats packs don't use or reference neutral zone or on the fly starts, as they only compare offensive to defensive zone starts and use percentages based off that.
- kingcong39


Solid point, wonder why they just don't combine neutral and on the fly so as to give a more complete picture.
That said, it gives one a good sense if ones deployment...usually start you more reliable Dmen in the Dzone...when it is this out-of-balance it does tell the story.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

Jun 2 @ 1:55 PM ET
Bought a 6 foot roaster for yard
Put it together

Wife

Well you finally got one

What

A big coc#

Bitc#
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