https://twitter.com/dalte...&t=TfgYsRqu4pZI9PRpyKokyQ

Dunno, watched it several times, he kind of directs his skate at the puck while stopping.
Ah well, its the nhl what can you expect?
- Fakepartofme

I don’t think there was enough there to overturn it though, which is what they did.

Just saw the goal that was called back for the flames.

I would be a pissed off this morning if I was flames fan.
- bryant

Honestly, it's a hard one to call. I see both sides. In the end, I think it's the, albeit minor, acceleration of the foot to deflect the goal in that made the call.

Like so many other calls, if there was consistency, it would be easier to swallow as a Flames fan. However, it's been so inconsistent, I can understand the outrage that Flames fans feel.

And edmontons superstar(s) show up in another big game.
Hopefully Matthews and Marner are watching.
Great job by the oilers!
Suck it flames!
- Fakepartofme

Nobody else in the league can do the poop that McDavid does. I have no complaints about Matthews and Marner. I kind of wonder what happened to Markstrom this series though (didn’t see last game)

I think the disallowed goal is a first impression thing. If you listened to the panel one side saw it very clearly as a kick. The other side of the discussion saw no kicking motion at all. A first impression is formed on the initial screening of the replay. Subsequent viewings only confirms the initial judgment.

The longer it takes to make the decision the more subjective it appears.

You can kick the puck anywhere else on the ice as a defensive tactic or as a pass. So, why not allow for a puck to be kicked into the net for a goal?

And, get rid of slow motion and stop action replays on off side reviews. If a skate blade clears the blue line 1/4 of a second before the puck...so what. It does not offer up a significant advantage beyond the normal flow of the game. Basically, if it cannot be detected by the naked eye at normal speed it should not be overturned.

And edmontons superstar(s) show up in another big game.
Hopefully Matthews and Marner are watching.
Great job by the oilers!
Suck it flames!
- Fakepartofme

I had the same thoughts.

As a Leafs fan the only rooting interest I had in that Alberta series was for this universe to suddenly collapse to a single point of infinite density.

I’m not a gun guy at all. But handguns kill way more people. Why are they not in the discussion. Assault rifle also such a senseless name.
- drexel

I think it's a multi tiered issue at the end of the day and accessibility plays a massive role. Because why can someone who isn't even old enough to buy a beer legally buy two guns of any style. That's (frank)ed up.

You got a big gun culture and pretty much everyone can buy in effortlessly. That's a bad combination.

I think the disallowed goal is a first impression thing. If you listened to the panel one side saw it very clearly as a kick. The other side of the discussion saw no kicking motion at all. A first impression is formed on the initial screening of the replay. Subsequent viewings only confirms the initial judgment.

The longer it takes to make the decision the more subjective it appears.

You can kick the puck anywhere else on the ice as a defensive tactic or as a pass. So, why not allow for a puck to be kicked into the net for a goal?

And, get rid of slow motion and stop action replays on off side reviews. If a skate blade clears the blue line 1/4 of a second before the puck...so what. It does not offer up a significant advantage beyond the normal flow of the game. Basically, if it cannot be detected by the naked eye at normal speed it should not be overturned.
- spatso

Because you don't want players kicking around the goaltender with skates on their feet.

That's some dangerous stuff.

I think the disallowed goal is a first impression thing. If you listened to the panel one side saw it very clearly as a kick. The other side of the discussion saw no kicking motion at all. A first impression is formed on the initial screening of the replay. Subsequent viewings only confirms the initial judgment.

The longer it takes to make the decision the more subjective it appears.

You can kick the puck anywhere else on the ice as a defensive tactic or as a pass. So, why not allow for a puck to be kicked into the net for a goal?

And, get rid of slow motion and stop action replays on off side reviews. If a skate blade clears the blue line 1/4 of a second before the puck...so what. It does not offer up a significant advantage beyond the normal flow of the game. Basically, if it cannot be detected by the naked eye at normal speed it should not be overturned.
- spatso

Because you don't want players kicking around the goaltender with skates on their feet.

That's some dangerous stuff.

I think the disallowed goal is a first impression thing. If you listened to the panel one side saw it very clearly as a kick. The other side of the discussion saw no kicking motion at all. A first impression is formed on the initial screening of the replay. Subsequent viewings only confirms the initial judgment.

The longer it takes to make the decision the more subjective it appears.

You can kick the puck anywhere else on the ice as a defensive tactic or as a pass. So, why not allow for a puck to be kicked into the net for a goal?

And, get rid of slow motion and stop action replays on off side reviews. If a skate blade clears the blue line 1/4 of a second before the puck...so what. It does not offer up a significant advantage beyond the normal flow of the game. Basically, if it cannot be detected by the naked eye at normal speed it should not be overturned.
- spatso

Because this is hockey not soccer.

It's a joke that the league even adjusted the rule to make it more confusing and say you can redirect but you can't kick a puck into the net.

IMO the rule should just be no goals off a foot or skate or arm, leg, forehead or anything other than a stick if in the opinion/view of the referee there is any indication there is intent to make that contact by the player. Players would stop putting their body parts forward to 'redirect' a puck and the controversy should be drastically minimized.

Use your stick to redirect and tip and move it around as much as you like but to start saying what is a kicking motion vs a redirection is insane - can you not argue that one can effectively redirect a puck by kicking it?

As far as your suggestion of basically eliminating most video reviews, with the technology that exists for home viewers now no shot they go that route, if the broadcasters and fans can see 5 angles of a play there is no shot the NHL will be ok with the officials not being able to do the same - the outrage would be far too loud for them since they have taken the lid off that jar.

Good morning.

I will say this again - please keep the talk away from politics, religion, gun control or other polarizing topics that experience tells us often end up with angry people and name calling and the like here.

Let's try to keep this sports related at least please - NHL playoffs are here, Blue Jays seem to have found their bats, Football season (CFL and NFL) seem to be approaching, the other "Football" aka Soccer is in full swing etc. etc. etc.

Thanks.

I think the disallowed goal is a first impression thing. If you listened to the panel one side saw it very clearly as a kick. The other side of the discussion saw no kicking motion at all. A first impression is formed on the initial screening of the replay. Subsequent viewings only confirms the initial judgment.

The longer it takes to make the decision the more subjective it appears.

You can kick the puck anywhere else on the ice as a defensive tactic or as a pass. So, why not allow for a puck to be kicked into the net for a goal?

And, get rid of slow motion and stop action replays on off side reviews. If a skate blade clears the blue line 1/4 of a second before the puck...so what. It does not offer up a significant advantage beyond the normal flow of the game. Basically, if it cannot be detected by the naked eye at normal speed it should not be overturned.
- spatso

The vagueness between "kicking motion" and "directing" will make this rule always a controversial black/white stupid issue for any goal. Let alone important ones like that.

Good morning.

I will say this again - please keep the talk away from politics, religion, gun control or other polarizing topics that experience tells us often end up with angry people and name calling and the like here.

Let's try to keep this sports related at least please - NHL playoffs are here, Blue Jays seem to have found their bats, Football season (CFL and NFL) seem to be approaching, the other "Football" aka Soccer is in full swing etc. etc. etc.

Thanks.
- Cush29

Just talking about the Leafs does that.
Like who should or shouldn't be traded or resigned or let walk into the sunset.
it's a catch 22

Because this is hockey not soccer.

It's a joke that the league even adjusted the rule to make it more confusing and say you can redirect but you can't kick a puck into the net.

IMO the rule should just be no goals off a foot or skate or arm, leg, forehead or anything other than a stick if in the opinion/view of the referee there is any indication there is intent to make that contact by the player. Players would stop putting their body parts forward to 'redirect' a puck and the controversy should be drastically minimized.

Use your stick to redirect and tip and move it around as much as you like but to start saying what is a kicking motion vs a redirection is insane - can you not argue that one can effectively redirect a puck by kicking it?

As far as your suggestion of basically eliminating most video reviews, with the technology that exists for home viewers now no shot they go that route, if the broadcasters and fans can see 5 angles of a play there is no shot the NHL will be ok with the officials not being able to do the same - the outrage would be far too loud for them since they have taken the lid off that jar.
- Cush29

That had to be called back.
He clearly put his skate in front of the puck to direct it in.
It was an unnatural fall.
It was going in anyway though.
If Coleman just left it alone, we would be playing another game, sadly.
They made the right call.

I think if the players skate is on the ice they shold be able to direct/deflect/slide/kick/push or whatver you want to call it...at the puck

also

https://twitter.com/Amand...&t=6d7BvVbSagHRB7o953BdNg

looks interesting ..Avs -Wings rivalry

Just talking about the Leafs does that.
Like who should or shouldn't be traded or resigned or let walk into the sunset.
it's a catch 22
- dmnted

Gurianov for Robertson

Mrazek Hollowell and Abruzzese for Crouse+

Holl to Minny

UFA C Miller or Subban

Sign Wedgewood as backup
Campbell 3 yr/13m

Kerfoot to Avs

Miles Wood👍

Let’s talk hockey!

20 in Chicago on Friday
20 in Chicago on Saturday
20 in Chicago on Sunday.

Bad people will find a way regardless.
- drexel

Quit the bullpoop and face the real question:

Why does it happen disproportionately in America in relation to the rest of the world?

Any new rumours on John Tavares being named player/coach of the Philadelphia Flyers?

Just talking about the Leafs does that.
Like who should or shouldn't be traded or resigned or let walk into the sunset.
it's a catch 22
- dmnted

This is true but at least it's hockey related, on the site called Hockey Buzz & as such it's permissible.


The "rules of engagement" so to speak are the same regardless of the topic however, feel free to have a different opinion and share it but do so in a mature, polite manner and don't resort to telling others their opinion is stupid and they are the same for having it or other insulting behaviour of that kind.

Good morning.

I will say this again - please keep the talk away from politics, religion, gun control or other polarizing topics that experience tells us often end up with angry people and name calling and the like here.

Let's try to keep this sports related at least please - NHL playoffs are here, Blue Jays seem to have found their bats, Football season (CFL and NFL) seem to be approaching, the other "Football" aka Soccer is in full swing etc. etc. etc.

Thanks.
- Cush29

Sure, but for the record the only anger was from some occasional poster who showed up 12 hours later and had a hissy fit, telling you how to do your job. On a hockey note, it’s interesting that the NHL is the only active sport that hasn’t engaged in this issue in the last week. Both baseball and basketball have been vocal.

Quit the bullpoop and face the real question:

Why does it happen disproportionately only in America?
- fifty__missions

I won't say this again because I've said it politely twice in under 12 hours now - stop this now.

Good morning.

I will say this again - please keep the talk away from politics, religion, gun control or other polarizing topics that experience tells us often end up with angry people and name calling and the like here.

Let's try to keep this sports related at least please - NHL playoffs are here, Blue Jays seem to have found their bats, Football season (CFL and NFL) seem to be approaching, the other "Football" aka Soccer is in full swing etc. etc. etc.

Thanks.
- Cush29

Walking the dog is sports rela...well exercise at least. No matter how you do it.

Sure, but for the record the only anger was from some occasional poster who showed up 12 hours later and had a hissy fit, telling you how to do your job. On a hockey note, it’s interesting that the NHL is the only active sport that hasn’t engaged in this issue in the last week. Both baseball and basketball have been vocal.
- Canada Cup

Quite honestly I'm not interested in the 'but, but, but' or "for the record" or the whataboutisms nor do do a root cause analysis on why it went where it did - I have read it all and am aware.

I have made it clear what the expectation is so let's all just stick to that and stop backtracking into where I have asked we not be/go.

Thx