Monty turning this ragtag bunch of misfit toys into a winner...
That's only a script Hollyweird could write!

So what we complaining about today?


Risto?
Provorov?
Fletcher?
Hextall?


How about this....What player/players do you think are not on the roster when the season begins?
- J35Bacher

Risto is bad and proof that fletcher is crazy and killed colonel mustard in the study with a lead pipe.

Provy works for KAOS and Max and 99 are on the case.

Hextall just hired Superman to spin the earth backwards and draft Makar so he could be on the ice in a closeout game for us and allow a goal.
Then today we can come on here and blame Hextall for drafting him....

Can't wait for the bloviating and pontification this summer.

nah there will pressure to win. CC will look elsewhere
- hello it's me 2050

Pressure from who? On who?

Possible....he should have gone to Rangers we would have gotten more than Tippett and he is the one piece they desperately need( a great face off guy)
- hfc355

What would the Flyers have gotten for Giroux from the Rangers? The Flyers did get more than Tippet from Florida.

thg

I'd keep him on the roster until trade deadline. I wouldn't buy him out our trade picks to get rid of him.
- rayc16

I would not burn draft assets. If all plays out well with the kids coming in they will have a log jam in the bottom 6, I would pair up a player for a lower round pick if I could move his whole salary. You would have to be confident the kids were alright but you could move a Lindblom/JVR, though I do think Lindblom will have a better season this season, JVR will get you 25, they just need SPEED

I only say this because I think CF will clear space and will make moves. I would be happy if he just traded small pieces for speed pieces and took it to the TDL

I wonder if you can do business with Ottawa. Everything I read is they want to start to compete. Could Konecny interest them? Could you do something like Konecny and 5th overall, move back to 7th overall but get some younger players like Ridley Greig and Bernard-Docker?

If your really intent on trying to get Gaudreau you clear out cap but also get some young players to rebuild with?

I think there are ways for the Flyers to be creative and try to reshape the roster without fully blowing it up.

Hey Bill,
Any idea where Giroux might go? I only saw parts of the Florida playoffs, but he looked pretty effective.
He's no journeyman Jagr or Thornton --seems to know where he wants to be, and Florida doesn't have the money to keep him, even if they find a taker for Hornqvist.
Any thoughts of where he'd want to go?
- therabbi

Gonna do the youth fanboy thing (like Tavares) and go to the Canadiens
(https://www.nhl.com/flyer...le-claude-giroux/c-435637)

I would not burn draft assets. If all plays out well with the kids coming in they will have a log jam in the bottom 6, I would pair up a player for a lower round pick if I could move his whole salary. You would have to be confident the kids were alright but you could move a Lindblom/JVR, though I do think Lindblom will have a better season this season, JVR will get you 25, they just need SPEED

I only say this because I think CF will clear space and will make moves. I would be happy if he just traded small pieces for speed pieces and took it to the TDL
- wcorvette

I have been going back and forth about just buying out JVR and being done with it. It would clear up a little over 4.3 in cap space this season and cost a little over 1.3 on the cap next season.

Part of me says is 1.3 really that much to eat in 22-23 when this team really isn't that close? And I also feel like this team is not in a position to lose another draft asset or asset in general to clear his contract for this season.

If it means sending another pick or young player away for some team to take him while we would most likely have to retain salary anyway isn't worth it. I don't think it would be worth it in any way. Even if the team takes on his full cap hit.

Bottom line is I don't want to part with any draft capital or prospects to get rid of his last year.

The way I see it, you either live with his last year on a team that isn't going anywhere, keeping your draft picks and prospects for the future, or buy him out and live with the smallish cap hit next season.

Keep the picks and prospects no matter what.

I have been going back and forth about just buying out JVR and being done with it. It would clear up a little over 4.3 in cap space this season and cost a little over 1.3 on the cap next season.

Part of me says is 1.3 really that much to eat in 22-23 when this team really isn't that close? And I also feel like this team is not in a position to lose another draft asset or asset in general to clear his contract for this season.

If it means sending another pick or young player away for some team to take him while we would most likely have to retain salary anyway isn't worth it. I don't think it would be worth it in any way. Even if the team takes on his full cap hit.

Bottom line is I don't want to part with any draft capital or prospects to get rid of his last year.

The way I see it, you either live with his last year on a team that isn't going anywhere, keeping your draft picks and prospects for the future, or buy him out and live with the smallish cap hit next season.

Keep the picks and prospects no matter what.
- MBFlyerfan

He scored 24 goals. I think there are teams that might lose scoring in free agency who could make a deal for him. Maybe you just retain some salary and try to get some package of mid round picks

I have been going back and forth about just buying out JVR and being done with it. It would clear up a little over 4.3 in cap space this season and cost a little over 1.3 on the cap next season.

Part of me says is 1.3 really that much to eat in 22-23 when this team really isn't that close? And I also feel like this team is not in a position to lose another draft asset or asset in general to clear his contract for this season.

If it means sending another pick or young player away for some team to take him while we would most likely have to retain salary anyway isn't worth it. I don't think it would be worth it in any way. Even if the team takes on his full cap hit.

Bottom line is I don't want to part with any draft capital or prospects to get rid of his last year.

The way I see it, you either live with his last year on a team that isn't going anywhere, keeping your draft picks and prospects for the future, or buy him out and live with the smallish cap hit next season.

Keep the picks and prospects no matter what.
- MBFlyerfan

don't disagree but there is one wild card to it, the Flyers will have a log jam in the bottom 6, plus players not waiver exempt. I think to really know what they have, these players have to play. They establish themselves as bottom six, they are useful to play or trade. Mix has been an issue like top end talent for the Flyers, they have the assets to address mix

What would the Flyers have gotten for Giroux from the Rangers? The Flyers did get more than Tippet from Florida.
- MJL

If Tippett works out and I think it might, it was a good return, not to many seasons he will be the most useful player on the deal. Not that the Flyers needed, youth, Size, skating and shooting. Hell, would love to see G feeding Tippett pucks

I have been going back and forth about just buying out JVR and being done with it. It would clear up a little over 4.3 in cap space this season and cost a little over 1.3 on the cap next season.

Part of me says is 1.3 really that much to eat in 22-23 when this team really isn't that close? And I also feel like this team is not in a position to lose another draft asset or asset in general to clear his contract for this season.

If it means sending another pick or young player away for some team to take him while we would most likely have to retain salary anyway isn't worth it. I don't think it would be worth it in any way. Even if the team takes on his full cap hit.

Bottom line is I don't want to part with any draft capital or prospects to get rid of his last year.

The way I see it, you either live with his last year on a team that isn't going anywhere, keeping your draft picks and prospects for the future, or buy him out and live with the smallish cap hit next season.

Keep the picks and prospects no matter what.
- MBFlyerfan

Giving this GM more cap space to work with is a dangerous thing.

He scored 24 goals. I think there are teams that might lose scoring in free agency who could make a deal for him. Maybe you just retain some salary and try to get some package of mid round picks
- J35Bacher

If they can acquire picks in a deal I am perfectly fine. I just don't want them to do a Ghost/Hagg deal where they are basically giving up picks to get them to take JVR.

Sure it is hindsight, but I would rather have had Ghost and the 2nd, Hagg and the first over what they ended up with.

Gonna do the youth fanboy thing (like Tavares) and go to the Canadiens
(https://www.nhl.com/flyer...le-claude-giroux/c-435637)
- Bendecko

Reading that really illustrates what a truly great pick he turned out to be. Right up there with Clarke in the 2nd round as the best picks in franchise history.

Giving this GM more cap space to work with is a dangerous thing.
- MJL

Yep, scary.

Reading that really illustrates what a truly great pick he turned out to be. Right up there with Clarke in the 2nd round as the best picks in franchise history.
- MBFlyerfan

Agreed. He'll be more appreciated by some of his detractors here in due time.

Agreed. He'll be more appreciated by some of his detractors here in due time.
- Bendecko

Franchise player and a border line Hall of Famer.

Nice bio on Montgomery! This is one guy I hope Stevie Y interviews for the Detroit HC. He sounds like a coach that will demand and get his players best effort!

What would the Flyers have gotten for Giroux from the Rangers? The Flyers did get more than Tippet from Florida.
- MJL

Kratsov and their 1st

I have been going back and forth about just buying out JVR and being done with it. It would clear up a little over 4.3 in cap space this season and cost a little over 1.3 on the cap next season.

The way I see it, you either live with his last year on a team that isn't going anywhere, keeping your draft picks and prospects for the future, or buy him out and live with the smallish cap hit next season.

Keep the picks and prospects no matter what.
- MBFlyerfan

Your math isn't quite right. Based on the obscure provisions of the CBA (check out CapFriendly's buyout calculator at https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator), buying out JvR this summer costs $4.33 million against next season's cap, then 'only' $1.33 million in 2023-24. So it would only save $2.67 million against the cap in 2022-23. Probably better to just let him play it out on a team that's not likely to be going anywhere and see if anyone wants to add him at next season's trade deadline.

Kratsov and their 1st
- hfc355

But considering Giroux only wanted to go to certain teams that's not realistic.

Kratsov and their 1st
- hfc355

Doubt it. How do you know this?
Also don't know that Kratsov will ultimately be better than Tippet.

Your math isn't quite right. Based on the obscure provisions of the CBA (check out CapFriendly's buyout calculator at https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator), buying out JvR this summer costs $4.33 million against next season's cap, then 'only' $1.33 million in 2023-24. So it would only save $2.67 million against the cap in 2022-23. Probably better to just let him play it out on a team that's not likely to be going anywhere and see if anyone wants to add him at next season's trade deadline.
- Pelle Schultz

He just mistakenly gave the cap hit instead of he cap savings for the first year.

Your math isn't quite right. Based on the obscure provisions of the CBA (check out CapFriendly's buyout calculator at https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator), buying out JvR this summer costs $4.33 million against next season's cap, then 'only' $1.33 million in 2023-24. So it would only save $2.67 million against the cap in 2022-23. Probably better to just let him play it out on a team that's not likely to be going anywhere and see if anyone wants to add him at next season's trade deadline.
- Pelle Schultz

Yes, thanks for the clarification.