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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 25 @ 2:03 PM ET
*test
- Garnie


*banned
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 25 @ 2:07 PM ET
Sandin, Mrazek, Holl for Gibson, Carrick, 2nd. Campbell walks, Krallgren is our backup.
- gravyface


Not bad
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
Not bad
- winsix


also not good
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
I got a better proposal. How about you make like a plant, and photosynthesize my love?
- Zezel


gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
also not good
- senstroll


I'm terrible at these trade proposals... thank God Dubas doesn't hang out here.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'm terrible at these trade proposals... thank God Dubas doesn't hang out here.
- gravyface

Oh hi

Merzlikins Jenner and Texier
for
Nylander Mrazek Holl Woll and Hirvonen

I already know Gigsy and Archaic say ❌
No need to reply 👍
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
also not good
- senstroll

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
I'm terrible at these trade proposals... thank God Dubas doesn't hang out here.
- gravyface


gibson has just been below league average the last 3 seasons.
its a huge risk, and you are praying its just a 3 year blip and he will return to 2016-19

and if he doesnt, you have 5 years of a bad contract.

I dont see how Gibson is not currently negative value that Anaheim need to attach draft picks to get rid of. The leafs always do for bad contracts


mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 25 @ 2:50 PM ET
gibson has just been below league average the last 3 seasons.
its a huge risk, and you are praying its just a 3 year blip and he will return to 2016-19

and if he doesnt, you have 5 years of a bad contract.

I dont see how Gibson is not currently negative value that Anaheim need to attach draft picks to get rid of. The leafs always do for bad contracts

- senstroll

No way

Gibson is a top 5 goalie
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 25 @ 2:52 PM ET
No way

Gibson is a top 5 goalie

- mr.sir


top 5 at what
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
top 5 at what
- senstroll

Goalering.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
gibson has just been below league average the last 3 seasons.
its a huge risk, and you are praying its just a 3 year blip and he will return to 2016-19

and if he doesnt, you have 5 years of a bad contract.

I dont see how Gibson is not currently negative value that Anaheim need to attach draft picks to get rid of. The leafs always do for bad contracts

- senstroll


Gibson is a very good goalie on a terrible team. I don't like the length of that contract but at $6.4M its not crazy. Mrazek is poisoned landfill, Leafs paid a first to get rid of the Marleau deal which only had a year left. It will cost at least a second IMO to get rid of Mrazek and his two remaining years. Alternative is a buyout. He needs to be gone and it should be priority #1 before the draft.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 25 @ 3:03 PM ET
gibson has just been below league average the last 3 seasons.
its a huge risk, and you are praying its just a 3 year blip and he will return to 2016-19

and if he doesnt, you have 5 years of a bad contract.

I dont see how Gibson is not currently negative value that Anaheim need to attach draft picks to get rid of. The leafs always do for bad contracts

- senstroll


Not always. Leafs unloaded Phaneuf and Zaitsev and got off ok.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 25 @ 3:06 PM ET
Gibson is a very good goalie on a terrible team. I don't like the length of that contract but at $6.4M its not crazy. Mrazek is poisoned landfill, Leafs paid a first to get rid of the Marleau deal which only had a year left. It will cost at least a second IMO to get rid of Mrazek and his two remaining years. Alternative is a buyout. He needs to be gone and it should be priority #1 before the draft.
- winsix


Agree I'd rather bet on a good goalie than a hot hand

Plus with the cap going up it would be nice to have a goalie locked up when am and Marner need contracts

Seravelli projects 91.5M by 25-26, Friedman says a reasonable bet escrow is paid off by then

If they have to sign a goalie that season all of a sudden a 5M goalie today becomes a 6M goalie then
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 25 @ 3:11 PM ET
Gibson is a very good goalie on a terrible team. I don't like the length of that contract but at $6.4M its not crazy. Mrazek is poisoned landfill, Leafs paid a first to get rid of the Marleau deal which only had a year left. It will cost at least a second IMO to get rid of Mrazek and his two remaining years. Alternative is a buyout. He needs to be gone and it should be priority #1 before the draft.
- winsix


Marleau was basically done and was being bought out - the payment of the 1st was also because Marleau had an NMC and could control where he was going - and the deal was that he wasn't going to play for Carolina. Even after the deal, Waddell made one last effort to try and get Marleau to change his mind, but he wanted to go back to SJ and wasn't going to play, so Waddell honoured the terms of the original deal - to buy him out.

Mrazek could just need a change of scenery. His value has likely never been lower, but enticement to take him on shouldn't be that high. They gave up a 2nd with Ritchie to get Lyubushkin. If you're dumping Mrazek and getting something of value in return, then a 2nd is likely included, otherwise I'd think it's at most a 3rd or equivalent - or less. I think, and I believe, that a lot of NHL GMs also think that Mrazek is still an NHL goalie who just needs to play elsewhere. Take him for a 2022 7th and get a 2023 4th; if you have cap space, it's a risk worth taking.

Gibson - he has a great reputation. He had three great years. He came with all the expecations of the world, as well - and he delivered for 3 solid years. Great goalies still help elevate crappy teams - and this year's Ducks team wasn't that bad. Stolarz has outplayed him each of the past 3 years, but in those 3 years where Gibson was good, he was the better half of the goalie tandem.

Would a change of scenery be all he needs? I don't know, but there are about 32 million reasons to be afraid to find out.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 25 @ 3:16 PM ET
top 5 at what
- senstroll
\

getting mentioned on this blog for the next few months until Campbell resigns
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 25 @ 3:27 PM ET
Gibson is a very good goalie on a terrible team. I don't like the length of that contract but at $6.4M its not crazy. Mrazek is poisoned landfill, Leafs paid a first to get rid of the Marleau deal which only had a year left. It will cost at least a second IMO to get rid of Mrazek and his two remaining years. Alternative is a buyout. He needs to be gone and it should be priority #1 before the draft.
- winsix


I mean his stats don't really say he's good. Over 3 GAA over past few years, .900 SV%. Like what makes him good? Usually good goalies on bad teams have good stats.

I think it's a really big risk to take on Gibson especially if Anaheim moves on from him. He was supposed to be a franchise goalie. How does a team give up on that and the guy still be amazing?

Might as well go see if you can pry Varlamov out of the Islanders.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 25 @ 3:28 PM ET
Marleau was basically done and was being bought out - the payment of the 1st was also because Marleau had an NMC and could control where he was going - and the deal was that he wasn't going to play for Carolina. Even after the deal, Waddell made one last effort to try and get Marleau to change his mind, but he wanted to go back to SJ and wasn't going to play, so Waddell honoured the terms of the original deal - to buy him out.

Mrazek could just need a change of scenery. His value has likely never been lower, but enticement to take him on shouldn't be that high. They gave up a 2nd with Ritchie to get Lyubushkin. If you're dumping Mrazek and getting something of value in return, then a 2nd is likely included, otherwise I'd think it's at most a 3rd or equivalent - or less. I think, and I believe, that a lot of NHL GMs also think that Mrazek is still an NHL goalie who just needs to play elsewhere. Take him for a 2022 7th and get a 2023 4th; if you have cap space, it's a risk worth taking.

Gibson - he has a great reputation. He had three great years. He came with all the expecations of the world, as well - and he delivered for 3 solid years. Great goalies still help elevate crappy teams - and this year's Ducks team wasn't that bad. Stolarz has outplayed him each of the past 3 years, but in those 3 years where Gibson was good, he was the better half of the goalie tandem.

Would a change of scenery be all he needs? I don't know, but there are about 32 million reasons to be afraid to find out.

- Monkeypunk


All the insiders said there was interest in him halfway through the year

I think teams with cap space will look at him as a free asset where they can even gain an asset as well as Mrazek playing like the starter he has in the past.

Same crap was said about Ritchie and look what it took to move him.

a 2nd and also adding Boosh which likely was worth a 3rd or 4th on the open market.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 25 @ 3:31 PM ET
I mean his stats don't really say he's good. Over 3 GAA over past few years, .900 SV%. Like what makes him good? Usually good goalies on bad teams have good stats.

I think it's a really big risk to take on Gibson especially if Anaheim moves on from him. He was supposed to be a franchise goalie. How does a team give up on that and the guy still be amazing?

Might as well go see if you can pry Varlamov out of the Islanders.

- Aaron_85


Price 2017-2021 only had one good year out of 4.

Grubeaur was atrocious after putting up 9 straight .915+ seasons

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
Price 2017-2021 only had one good year out of 4.

Grubeaur was atrocious after putting up 9 straight .915+ seasons

- Santo_44


But was amazing in every post season.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
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May 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
It's just a feature of the society now, like the risk of rockets in the middle east. Nice place to visit.
- Zezel

yup 👍

we probably have more than 400 million guns down here😍

good luck with your 1812 revasion🤦🏿‍♂️

lmfaooooooooo 🤣
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
"No one has scored more than 15 goals in one #StanleyCup playoffs over the last 25 years (Sidney Crosby, 2009, and Alex Ovechkin, 2018).

Evander Kane currently has 12 for the #oilers and he's still in the second round."

Chris johsnton...tweeter
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 25 @ 3:39 PM ET
"No one has scored more than 15 goals in one #StanleyCup playoffs over the last 25 years (Sidney Crosby, 2009, and Alex Ovechkin, 2018).

Evander Kane currently has 12 for the #oilers and he's still in the second round."

Chris johsnton...tweeter

- Fakepartofme

I remember everyone on here saying Kane was a brutal signing

Without him EDM has a 1st round exit, Mcdavid is sure happy with the signing
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 25 @ 3:39 PM ET
Goalies are voodoo, outside of a rare few in the league every year (Vaseline, Price, etc.).
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 25 @ 3:43 PM ET
Goalies are voodoo, outside of a rare few in the league every year (Vaseline, Price, etc.).
- gravyface

Not sure its all voodoo

I think system and style matters as well

A lot of people mention Saros but being 5'11' and relying on positioning probably doesn't fit as well on the Leafs with their play style
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