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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 10:20 AM ET
Was just about to post the link to this story !

What’s interesting is that Cozens has been on the wing the entire tournament, but he’s been great in the games I’ve been able to watch.

- Pegullaville

Be interesting to see if they try him on the Wing say with Krebs at C and JJ on the other Wing.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 28 @ 10:24 AM ET
Not saying ur wrong
It's may and already tired of reading that statement

Hutton
$ 750,000

- Anderdog


Until Adam’s proves me wrong… he had opportunities to corse correct after Ullmark and we ended up with an average of $775,000 spent on goalies.

It’s the largest need and I have a feeling we are going to end up with UPL/Anderson or UPL/Subban… which would be a disappointment.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

May 28 @ 10:24 AM ET
https://thehockeynews.com/news/dylan-cozens-play-with-canada-should-excite-sabres-fans
Decent read, pretty much take what you want from it. Looking forward to watching Cozens mature and grow into the monster I think he becomes.

- Buff36


I look at these worlds as Cozens doing what was expected - maybe a bit more - but these are among the weakest rosters for a top level tournament you'll ever see. The USA roster that just lost to Finland was awful. John Hayden managed a nice -2 today for USA.

He, Mitts, and Krebs have all proven exactly zero in the NHL at this point. If we're lucky two of the three will become top 6, but that's being lucky. If any of them could bury chances this roster going forward would be a lot easier to construct. The more I think about it, the more fatty Mitts has been the one to show flashes of great play multiple times for more than a single game at a time. I think Cozens and Krebs are below him on my list right now.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 10:29 AM ET
I look at these worlds as Cozens doing what was expected - maybe a bit more - but these are among the weakest rosters for a top level tournament you'll ever see. The USA roster that just lost to Finland was awful. John Hayden managed a nice -2 today for USA.

He, Mitts, and Krebs have all proven exactly zero in the NHL at this point. If we're lucky two of the three will become top 6, but that's being lucky. If any of them could bury chances this roster going forward would be a lot easier to construct. The more I think about it, the more fatty Mitts has been the one to show flashes of great play multiple times for more than a single game at a time. I think Cozens and Krebs are below him on my list right now.

- lacaprup

Well I would expect Mitts to do that, he's a few years older than both Cozens and Krebs
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
I look at these worlds as Cozens doing what was expected - maybe a bit more - but these are among the weakest rosters for a top level tournament you'll ever see. The USA roster that just lost to Finland was awful. John Hayden managed a nice -2 today for USA.

He, Mitts, and Krebs have all proven exactly zero in the NHL at this point. If we're lucky two of the three will become top 6, but that's being lucky. If any of them could bury chances this roster going forward would be a lot easier to construct. The more I think about it, the more fatty Mitts has been the one to show flashes of great play multiple times for more than a single game at a time. I think Cozens and Krebs are below him on my list right now.

- lacaprup


So, to me the answer is "I don't know", and that applies to many of the F's:
Tage (is he for real, is he a 70 pt or 100 pt player)
Krebs
Cozens
Mitts
Quinn
Peterka
Asplund
Skinner (20, 30 or 40 G's?)

About the only F's we know about are
Tuch
Olofsson
Okposo
Girgs

Is it any wonder that Adams is slow playing who the trade assets are from among this group?
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 28 @ 10:46 AM ET
Well I would expect Mitts to do that, he's a few years older than both Cozens and Krebs
- Buff36

What do you think will happen with Mittelstadt? This is really a make or break season for him
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
So, to me the answer is "I don't know", and that applies to many of the F's:
Tage (is he for real, is he a 70 pt or 100 pt player)
Krebs
Cozens
Mitts
Quinn
Peterka
Asplund
Skinner (20, 30 or 40 G's?)

About the only F's we know about are
Tuch
Olofsson
Okposo
Girgs

Is it any wonder that Adams is slow playing who the trade assets are from among this group?

- IonSabres

My opinion on Tage is he'll be a 40-60 middle 6 guy.

I also think we need to trade Skinner asap before he goes ghost again
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
My opinion on Tage is he'll be a 40-60 middle 6 guy.

I also think we need to trade Skinner asap before he goes ghost again

- chilliard77


I dont think their is a market for Skinner.
We all knew he was paid $1.5m too much...It was the 8 year term that was insane, should have been 5 or 6 max.
Nobody wants his inconsistency, being overpaid even for his best years, and on a max term contract.

They just need go extract as much value as they can along the way.
Maybe they could package a 1st to trade with him his Las t year, maybe 2 years.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

May 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
So, to me the answer is "I don't know", and that applies to many of the F's:
Tage (is he for real, is he a 70 pt or 100 pt player)
Krebs
Cozens
Mitts
Quinn
Peterka
Asplund
Skinner (20, 30 or 40 G's?)

About the only F's we know about are
Tuch
Olofsson
Okposo
Girgs

Is it any wonder that Adams is slow playing who the trade assets are from among this group?

- IonSabres


I expect 30+ from Skinner next season
Tage I see at 75 - 85 points and getting better all season long. That's probably way more optimistic on him than most, but I'm sold with him.

Everyone else though...yeah it's a crapshoot still.

I can come to terms with slow playing the forwards, but he needs to make a considerable move in net. You help develop the forwards and defenmen when they know they have legit goaltending behind them.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
What do you think will happen with Mittelstadt? This is really a make or break season for him
- chilliard77

Granato really likes him, he's signed and he has shown some flashes under Donnie, needs to stay healthy. I am not the biggest Mitts fan, but unless he is used as a chip in a trade that makes us better I would keep him.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 28 @ 11:10 AM ET
I dont think their is a market for Skinner.
We all knew he was paid $1.5m too much...It was the 8 year term that was insane, should have been 5 or 6 max.
Nobody wants his inconsistency, being overpaid even for his best years, and on a max term contract.

They just need go extract as much value as they can along the way.
Maybe they could package a 1st to trade with him his Las t year, maybe 2 years.

- IonSabres

That contract is horrid but he did have a really good season last season. Maybe exchange him for another bad contract? Or send him to the yotes?

9th, Skinner to Az for Chychrun

Who says no?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
That contract is horrid but he did have a really good season last season. Maybe exchange him for another bad contract? Or send him to the yotes?

9th, Skinner to Az for Chychrun

Who says no?

- chilliard77

Arizona
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
I dont think their is a market for Skinner.
We all knew he was paid $1.5m too much...It was the 8 year term that was insane, should have been 5 or 6 max.
Nobody wants his inconsistency, being overpaid even for his best years, and on a max term contract.

They just need go extract as much value as they can along the way.
Maybe they could package a 1st to trade with him his Las t year, maybe 2 years.

- IonSabres



I'd say he's here for three more years while the team is unlikely to have significant cap problems. The decision will come in 2025 when he has two years left on the deal.

Here's what a buyout looks like in '25 with two years left on the deal:

chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
Arizona
- Buff36

You're right. We probably need to add a blue chip prospect.

Skinner for.... Erik Karlsson?, Carey Price? Bob? (Panthers say no), Kevin Hayes?

I'd swap Skinner for Hayes, would give us a solid veteran center that we need.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

May 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
9th, Skinner, Mitts for Hart, Hayes, Farabee
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 28 @ 11:21 AM ET
I expect 30+ from Skinner next season
Tage I see at 75 - 85 points and getting better all season long. That's probably way more optimistic on him than most, but I'm sold with him.

Everyone else though...yeah it's a crapshoot still.

I can come to terms with slow playing the forwards, but he needs to make a considerable move in net. You help develop the forwards and defenmen when they know they have legit goaltending behind them.

- lacaprup


Cozens putting up 169 points in 119 WHL games in his final two seasons, having a 16 point world juniors, a 38 point NHL season in your first full 82 in the NHL with micro stats suggesting more offensive upside would suggest he will be a top 6 NHL forward.

It’s not luck, it’s called development.


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
Cozens putting up 169 points in 119 WHL games in his final two seasons, having a 16 point world juniors, a 38 point NHL season in your first full 82 in the NHL with micro stats suggesting more offensive upside would suggest he will be a top 6 NHL forward.

It’s not luck, it’s called development.

- Pegullaville

Oh my
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 28 @ 11:24 AM ET
I'd say he's here for three more years while the team is unlikely to have significant cap problems. The decision will come in 2025 when he has two years left on the deal.

Here's what a buyout looks like in '25 with two years left on the deal:


- Hank Balling


Would you rather Buyout or use a 1st to dump him?
Would they need to add another asset if it is 2 years left?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 28 @ 11:25 AM ET
Cozens putting up 169 points in 119 WHL games in his final two seasons, having a 16 point world juniors, a 38 point NHL season in your first full 82 in the NHL with micro stats suggesting more offensive upside would suggest he will be a top 6 NHL forward.

It’s not luck, it’s called development.

- Pegullaville


Interesting.
Serious question, which micro stats?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 11:26 AM ET
Would you rather Buyout or use a 1st to dump him?
Would they need to add another asset if it is 2 years left?

- IonSabres

Think it would depend on what's going on with the Sabres at that time.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
Would you rather Buyout or use a 1st to dump him?
Would they need to add another asset if it is 2 years left?

- IonSabres


It'll be an interesting conversation to have depending on where his game is at in 3 years. For now, with the cap situation, his NMC, his contract and the Sabres' need for scoring, I think the chances of him getting moved/bought out in the next two years is essentially 0%

After 2 years there will be a slight chance, and after the third year there will be a real decision to make.

For now, he's still got game and the Sabres need him for a number of reasons. He's overpaid but it is what it is. It's not a problem right now. It's actually helpful
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 28 @ 11:58 AM ET
You're right. We probably need to add a blue chip prospect.

Skinner for.... Erik Karlsson?, Carey Price? Bob? (Panthers say no), Kevin Hayes?

I'd swap Skinner for Hayes, would give us a solid veteran center that we need.

- chilliard77


Even if the Sabres wanted to move Skinner, which I don't think they really do, there's still the matter of his NMC and finding a team who wants him. He likes being close to home in Southern Ontario and is very much #peoplewhowanttobehere
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
Even if the Sabres wanted to move Skinner, which I don't think they really do, there's still the matter of his NMC and finding a team who wants him. He likes being close to home in Southern Ontario and is very much #peoplewhowanttobehere
- Hank Balling


Hopefully he can continue to be productive. His game isn’t the heavy type that takes a hard toll on the body. It should be interesting to see how this team progresses.
Freddie krug
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dryden, ON
Joined: 11.17.2020

May 28 @ 12:11 PM ET
Cozens, Kadri and Tuch. A line that could play any style against line and still be productive. That's a playoff line.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

May 28 @ 12:12 PM ET
Cozens putting up 169 points in 119 WHL games in his final two seasons, having a 16 point world juniors, a 38 point NHL season in your first full 82 in the NHL with micro stats suggesting more offensive upside would suggest he will be a top 6 NHL forward.

It’s not luck, it’s called development.

- Pegullaville


That 38 points is the only number you mentioned that really matters. Maybe he's a top 6 guy in the 23 season or the 24 season, but he's not a lock. He has to learn to finish on NHL goalies. His 8.1 shooting % needs to go up significantly if he's going to be a top 6 player.
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