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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
I understand people are reacting to the events of the last two weeks, but just like in this country until there can be a true honest discussion with both sides of the political spectrum nothing will get done.

That being said this is not the place to have this conversation. It is getting to a boiling point so I am just got to put a lid on the talk.

Can we talk about how Mike Smith yet again Mike Smithed?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
My 3 choices at each pick. Since you gotta have backup plans.

9. Lekkrmakii / Gauthier / Nazar

16. Rutger / Mesar / Mintyukov

28. Luneau / Miro / Howard

If we were to take Lekker at 9 I'd want Rutger for size. Opposite if we go Gauthier at 9 take Mesar for speed and skill

If we keep 28 i'd pick Luneau since we need RHD. But would not be opposed to Miro for his upside if he recovers. Howard at 28 I don't mind either.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
I'd be shocked if 28 +Johnson gets it done. 16 + Asplund might be more reasonable IMO, based on likely interest from NJ and Ott driving the price up. Also, Fiala is a loser since he doesn't hit enough and hasdn't singularly carried his team in the PO's.

I like the thought from yesterday of Talbot + Dumba...just not sure what would cost in terms of assets, and would need an extension for Dumba or very solid assurances.
That would allow them to resign Fiala & MAF.

- IonSabres


I like Talbot as a target , 89 mentioned that.

Why change both Johnson and asplund?

Maybe pick 16 + Johnson

Do you feel like asplunds value is better than Johnson?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 25 @ 10:37 AM ET
I like Talbot as a target , 89 mentioned that.

Why change both Johnson and asplund?

Maybe pick 16 + Johnson

Do you feel like asplunds value is better than Johnson?

- Boss34


Yes only because of the fact that Johnson can walk and not play for the team he is traded to
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
I understand people are reacting to the events of the last two weeks, but just like in this country until there can be a true honest discussion with both sides of the political spectrum nothing will get done.

That being said this is not the place to have this conversation. It is getting to a boiling point so I am just got to put a lid on the talk.

Can we talk about how Mike Smith yet again Mike Smithed?

- Stripes77



Some would argue Mike Smith is "tougher" then Milan lucic.

He took the hit, and tough guys take hits.

Super tough guys get out hit 6-0 in playoff games.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
i do get annoyed how everyone pounds the gavel on gun control but very few talk about mental health awareness, teaching and over medicating instead of treating
- SabresFaninIndiana


1) The two issues are not mutually exclusive. We can do both.

2) Our country does not have any more mental illness than any other country.

3) Think about people you know that struggle with mental illness. You can treat it but it never really goes away. There is always a struggle. It's foolish to pretend it is a medical condition where you are either healed or not healed.

EDIT - sorry, I didn't see Stripes note until after I posted.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
I'd be shocked if 28 +Johnson gets it done. 16 + Asplund might be more reasonable IMO, based on likely interest from NJ and Ott driving the price up. Also, Fiala is a loser since he doesn't hit enough and hasdn't singularly carried his team in the PO's.

I like the thought from yesterday of Talbot + Dumba...just not sure what would cost in terms of assets, and would need an extension for Dumba or very solid assurances.
That would allow them to resign Fiala & MAF.

- IonSabres


I think the cost of Talbot and Dumba wouldn't be to significant. Wild need cap space.

I'd only take Talbot if we were to get Dumba as well. If not go get a better goalie.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
I like Talbot as a target , 89 mentioned that.

Why change both Johnson and asplund?

Maybe pick 16 + Johnson

Do you feel like asplunds value is better than Johnson?

- Boss34


Johnson certainly doesn't get it done. I think it would need to be a prospect better than both Johnson and Asplund.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
Yes only because of the fact that Johnson can walk and not play for the team he is traded to
- Stripes77


That's fair, but Johnson's fall back is a late 2nd, how much more value does selke Swede have?

Gotta be around a 2nd round pick value?

Would you rather move pick 28 (fla) or asplund in a trade?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
Some would argue Mike Smith is "tougher" then Milan lucic.

He took the hit, and tough guys take hits.

Super tough guys get out hit 6-0 in playoff games.

- Boss34


Lucic could have absolutely steam rolled Smith.

The 5 and the game call at the time was the right call to manage the game and the situation. But that was totally different than the Lucic Miller hit that ruined the Sabres
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
That's fair, but Johnson's fall back is a late 2nd, how much more value does selke Swede have?

Gotta be around a 2nd round pick value?

Would you rather move pick 28 (fla) or asplund in a trade?

- Boss34


I like Asplunds game, he has a place on this roster. I would rather move pick 28, because you never know if he even dresses in Blue and Gold (case in point look at Johnson)
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:43 AM ET
Lucic could have absolutely steam rolled Smith.

The 5 and the game call at the time was the right call to manage the game and the situation. But that was totally different than the Lucic Miller hit that ruined the Sabres

- Stripes77


Lets be real. The sabres ruined themselves by not signing Briere before Drury.

Always take the guy #thatwantstobehere
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:44 AM ET
I like Asplunds game, he has a place on this roster. I would rather move pick 28, because you never know if he even dresses in Blue and Gold (case in point look at Johnson)
- Stripes77


He's looked awesome at the worlds, but that could be competition?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 10:45 AM ET
Johnson certainly doesn't get it done. I think it would need to be a prospect better than both Johnson and Asplund.
- Slump Buster


Agree on your previous post 👍

#uncleionbourbon mentioned pick 28 and Johnson

Or

Pick 16 and asplund.

I'm just gauging how drunk he is already?
Its 10:43 pm somehwhere right?


What's the difference between asplund and Johnson, stripes mentioned the ufa college part, which was an excellent point. Unsigned vs signed.

I'd rather have selke Swede, just curious what others thought of their values

Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 25 @ 10:46 AM ET
He's looked awesome at the worlds, but that could be competition?
- DirtyDan


The fancy numbers have always indicated that he was a good player but he was often dragged down by lesser linemates. It wouldn't surprise me if he was a 15 goal guy on the 4th line, which would be fantastic given his excellent (selke!) defense.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
Lucic could have absolutely steam rolled Smith.

The 5 and the game call at the time was the right call to manage the game and the situation. But that was totally different than the Lucic Miller hit that ruined the Sabres

- Stripes77



Completely agree, but he knew his shoulder was gonna "graze" mike Smith's chin.

Did you see the comments after


"We would both not be playing in the next game"
If he really wanted to smoke him.


The nhl got this call right
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
Myers should be cheap

- DirtyDan





Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
I like Asplunds game, he has a place on this roster. I would rather move pick 28, because you never know if he even dresses in Blue and Gold (case in point look at Johnson)
- Stripes77


The organization gave up on Marcus Foligno and Erod too quickly, I don’t think it would be smart to move a guy like Asplund on a great contract who seems like a perfect bottom 6 winger on a playoff team due to his defensive acumen.

He is showing some offensive upside at the world championships, if he can give you 35-40 points next year he’s a perfect role player.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
The fancy numbers have always indicated that he was a good player but he was often dragged down by lesser linemates. It wouldn't surprise me if he was a 15 goal guy on the 4th line, which would be fantastic given his excellent (selke!) defense.
- Slump Buster


Wasn't he a ppg player and our leading scorer for like the first 10 games this year?

Before going like 30 games without a point
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:48 AM ET

- TheSabresTaco



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 10:49 AM ET

Lack of gun control is the only reason for what happens in the states.

will be my only post on subject

- DirtyDan


so you think an evil crazy person willing to kill people will not take that one extra step to obtain an illegal gun that is all over the place?



that will be my only post on the subject
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
The organization gave up on Marcus Foligno and Erod too quickly, I don’t think it would be smart to move a guy like Asplund on a great contract who seems like a perfect bottom 6 winger on a playoff team due to his defensive acumen.

He is showing some offensive upside at the world championships, if he can give you 35-40 points next year he’s a perfect role player.

- Pegullaville


we gotta remember this was his first full year. Before this year he had a season of 28 games and another with 29 games.

Hes still got growth in him for sure
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
The fancy numbers have always indicated that he was a good player but he was often dragged down by lesser linemates. It wouldn't surprise me if he was a 15 goal guy on the 4th line, which would be fantastic given his excellent (selke!) defense.
- Slump Buster


Good post

Nice to see double digit goals and some defensive awareness, similar to great28's #'s.

Selke swede helps keep olo and mainly dahlin happy.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
so you think an evil crazy person willing to kill people will not take that one extra step to obtain an illegal gun that is all over the place?



that will be my only post on the subject

- homiedclown


Your a page late clown.

Go back to making t-shirts
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
i do get annoyed how everyone pounds the gavel on gun control but very few talk about mental health awareness, teaching and over medicating instead of treating
- SabresFaninIndiana


imagine if we put even a microscopic portion of our budget into caring about mental health treatment.
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