You talk as if it's guaranteed that the Flyers will have a better season than the Yotes

- Tomahawk

Funny I thought the same thing.

Trotz is the best coach available. Really isn't much debate about that.
Those saying his style doesn't fit the Flyers. What available coach style fits the garbage we've seen the last two seasons? Get the best guy available, let his professionalism, attention to detail, and holding players accountable shape this into a competitive hockey club.

I believe in order for the Flyers to land him, they must have him signed at the end of tomorrow's interview. Once he walks out the door without a deal, he will go elsewhere.
- PLindbergh31

Didn't AV try to hold them accountable?

So now then the flyers have 775k less in cap space to use. Yeah def smart to lock in Seller now. No fn way he would be available at the end of July.
- hello it's me 2050

Do you have no brain? Flyers were going to sign a 7th D regardless. So there was going to be cap taken up regardless. Flyers can also go 10% over the cap during the offseason. Again please continue to female dog about absolutely nothing important.

Trotz is the best coach available. Really isn't much debate about that.
- PLindbergh31

Quenneville and this three SCs says hi.

Quenneville and this three SCs says hi.
- Tomahawk

Are Quenneville/Babcock going to be hired by anyone?

3 first rounders this year (1 top 10, 1 top 16), 2 second rounders (including the Flyers') next year and the league's most cap space. They're gonna get some assets this summer for other teams' cap dumps.
- TobyFlenderson

Exactly… I didn’t even add any of that. Just roster and some prospects. No offense to bill at all but he’s gotta tow the company line. No rational thinking hockey fan alone can’t see just what you said about this years picks and cap space and say you wouldn’t want philly in that spot.

Let alone their roster. If we some how obtained their cap and draft capital this year fletch would be put up for gm of a lifetime.

But surely we wouldn’t want to be buffalo.

Laughable actually.

Cant wait to see what and who they bring in … kane? Johnny?

Funniest part … I’ll be able to go to game and see exciting hockey and stars.

Philly will get to see…. Gritty.

Sad actually

Trotz is the best coach available. Really isn't much debate about that.
Those saying his style doesn't fit the Flyers. What available coach style fits the garbage we've seen the last two seasons? Get the best guy available, let his professionalism, attention to detail, and holding players accountable shape this into a competitive hockey club.

I believe in order for the Flyers to land him, they must have him signed at the end of tomorrow's interview. Once he walks out the door without a deal, he will go elsewhere.
- PLindbergh31

They could offer him the most $….give him some say on personnel…allow him to pick his Assistant Coach’s…that still might not be enough.

Do you have no brain? Flyers were going to sign a 7th D regardless. So there was going to be cap taken up regardless. Flyers can also go 10% over the cap during the offseason. Again please continue to female dog about absolutely nothing important.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Do you have a brain? As of today they now have 775k less cap space to use. When does free agency starts? For a team that doesn't have much wouldn't you want as much as possible come the day free agency starts?

Yet your asking me if I have a brain.

Seeler you sign at the end of the summer to fill whatever need you have a for a vet dman. Just another in a long line of small mistakes this GM makes on a consistent basis.

Are Quenneville/Babcock going to be hired by anyone?
- PLindbergh31

I'd take Q in a heart beat. Hell I'd take Babs over Trotz.

Flyers should just step up and grab Q. Disgraced franchise + disgraced head coach = match made in heaven.

You daft? If they signed someone else thats using one of the 50 slots as well. Every 7th D in the league is replaceable by blindly pointing at a list...... The slot is filled by NHL Dmen that can land a bottom pair gig in the NHL. It makes no sense to wait until July to get another Seeler like Defensman.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

They shouldn’t be signing defenseman like Seeler. We have plenty of options for 7th defenseman already in the organization.

You think Seeler wouldn’t have still been available the day before training camp opens? If he had other options, why would he sign for the lowest dollar amount possible over a month before free agency starts? Because they knew that no one else would be dumb enough to include an extra year of the lowest amount of money possible.

They didn’t want to risk losing a second 750,000.

There could have been a rash of injuries in some teams training camp. Nope can’t risk another 750k

He could play over his head this year and get a pay raise for the following year. Nope can’t risk another 750k… cause he and his agent know it is more likely that without this stupid 2 year contract, Seeler would likely not be playing in the nhl after this year.

How does what I said equate to 'Hextall is the only GM that never made rash decisions'. I hated some of the moves he made. Umberger for Hartnell only to buy Umberger out a couple years later. Trading for Filppula. The JVR signing. I especially didn't like Hextall's drafts, not even counting the Nolan Patrick pick.
- TobyFlenderson

The Hartnell for Umberger deal was a good move. Hartnell would've needed to be bought out eventually and would've been on the Flyers cap longer with dead money. You hated trading for Fillpula? LOL. That was a really good move. Filppula was a big reason why the team made the playoffs. If you don't count Patrick, which you really can't do, his drafts were solid. Some of the stuff you read on here cracks me up.

An AHL level player who can fill in, in a pinch. Not exactly the first move you’d expect in an aggressive retool.
- landros 2

In the offseason I would agree but we are in May with little to do as playoffs go one. I have no issues with Seeler as a 7th. It also likley hasnt been the 1st move. Just the 1st known move because Seeler signed.

Im sure Fletcher made offers to Frost, Tippett as well. Would prefer we move on from MacEwen but not the end of the world if he is signed back. Think he is probably a better fit for 13th forward.

Should also walk away from Thompson. At 38 years old, you are better off grooming a younger player for the 4th line role. Laczynski being the likely player

The Hartnell for Umberger deal was a good move. Hartnell would've needed to be bought out eventually and would've been on the Flyers cap longer with dead money. You hated trading for Fillpula? LOL. That was a really good move. Filppula was a big reason why the team made the playoffs. If you don't count Patrick, which you really can't do, his drafts were solid. Some of the stuff you read on here cracks me up.
- MJL

Here comes the son to defend the dad. It will never end. It wasn't a good move. All part of the plan that Saint Ronnie never had. Oh my bad wasn't allowed to see through. You crack me up Cliff.

They shouldn’t be signing defenseman like Seeler. We have plenty of options for 7th defenseman already in the organization.

You think Seeler wouldn’t have still been available the day before training camp opens? If he had other options, why would he sign for the lowest dollar amount possible over a month before free agency starts? Because they knew that no one else would be dumb enough to include an extra year of the lowest amount of money possible.

They didn’t want to risk losing a second 750,000.

There could have been a rash of injuries in some teams training camp. Nope can’t risk another 750k

He could play over his head this year and get a pay raise for the following year. Nope can’t risk another 750k… cause he and his agent know it is more likely that without this stupid 2 year contract, Seeler would likely not be playing in the nhl after this year.
- Shrike

good stuff. Plus he will have a job when he retires and Chuck is still president.

Do you have a brain? As of today they now have 775k less cap space to use. When does free agency starts? For a team that doesn't have much wouldn't you want as much as possible come the day free agency starts?

Yet your asking me if I have a brain.

Seeler you sign at the end of the summer to fill whatever need you have a for a vet dman. Just another in a long line of small mistakes this GM makes on a consistent basis.
- hello it's me 2050

They dont have .775 less cap to use because like I said they can go over by 10% and I can guarantee the Flyers are looking to shed cap space as well. That 775k is not going to matter. No team has ever fallen apart because of a league minimum deal. No GM sits there and says damn I wish I had an extra 775k of space to make this move... You know why? Because clearing such a small amount of space isnt difficult.

Isnt that what Trotz did in Washington? Trotz coached WSH to Stanley Cup. He got a defensively irresponsible Alex Ovechkin to buy into the team Defence and it didnt hurt his offensive game at all.

Trotz is the right coach for this team. He is the guy that will get someone like Provorov back on track.

GM doesnt need an excuse to be a buyer. Fletcher and any future GM is likely to do regardless of who the coach is.

Trotz is one of a few coaches that could make this team successful. WPG has the Manitoba connection with Trotz but they may not be willing to pay the premium for Trotz. It was also mentioned on TSN Scheifle would not be the type of player that would fit with Trotz
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

There's a lot of reasons why Trotz is a good fit here. As far as being successful. That depends on your definition of successful.

Flyers situation is good for him. Fletcher has a blank check and is probably the most likely to allow Trotz to have a say on how the team is built.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

No elite players....very average group of young players..no cap space. Yeah I am sure he is saying where do I sign up.

So when you look at all the transaction over the past 3 seasons, nothing comes across as rash to me except the Ghost trade. Everything else, whether it worked out or not, to me had good reason behind the move.
- jd250

90% of his moves are rash and poorly thought out.

They dont have .775 less cap to use because like I said they can go over by 10% and I can guarantee the Flyers are looking to shed cap space as well. That 775k is not going to matter. No team has ever fallen apart because of a league minimum deal. No GM sits there and says damn I wish I had an extra 775k of space to make this move... You know why? Because clearing such a small amount of space isnt difficult.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

they dont have 775k less? Wow. Amazing you can say that when it is just false.

Keep defending. Keep spinning.

They dont have .775 less cap to use because like I said they can go over by 10% and I can guarantee the Flyers are looking to shed cap space as well. That 775k is not going to matter. No team has ever fallen apart because of a league minimum deal. No GM sits there and says damn I wish I had an extra 775k of space to make this move... You know why? Because clearing such a small amount of space isnt difficult.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

So you think it’s a bad deal, you just think it’s irrelevant. Where as I think this is a bad deal and it it will negatively effect the future of our team.

They could offer him the most $….give him some say on personnel…allow him to pick his Assistant Coach’s…that still might not be enough.
- landros 2

If that is the case, might as well fold the franchise. Or even better move them to Podunk.

on paper the moved Murray made looked fine imo Clearly didn't work out. Kane Bogo Lehner should have helped them much more than they did.
- hello it's me 2050

He gave a lot of 1st and 2nd rounders. That roster wasn’t ready to compete. You just can’t build through draft then rush it when roster isn’t ready. Buffalo is prime example of what’s likely to happen. To bad philly wasn’t sold to new owner and different management brought in.

Like ex season ticket holder said they will never rebuild. Never “tank” and they’ll also never win another cup. 🤷‍♂️ Status quo

In the offseason I would agree but we are in May with little to do as playoffs go one. I have no issues with Seeler as a 7th. It also likley hasnt been the 1st move. Just the 1st known move because Seeler signed.

Im sure Fletcher made offers to Frost, Tippett as well. Would prefer we move on from MacEwen but not the end of the world if he is signed back. Think he is probably a better fit for 13th forward.

Should also walk away from Thompson. At 38 years old, you are better off grooming a younger player for the 4th line role. Laczynski being the likely player
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I have no real issue with the signing…I see him for what he is. Can play in a pinch. Provide some leadership for the Phantoms. Hopefully #8 or 9 on depth chart when things all shake out.

The Hartnell for Umberger deal was a good move. Hartnell would've needed to be bought out eventually and would've been on the Flyers cap longer with dead money. You hated trading for Fillpula? LOL. That was a really good move. Filppula was a big reason why the team made the playoffs. If you don't count Patrick, which you really can't do, his drafts were solid. Some of the stuff you read on here cracks me up.
- MJL

Hartnell was a way more useful player than Umberger was for longer. Don't care if he needed to be bought out as they eventually bought out Umberger anyway, who was at the end of his career when he made that trade. Sure trading back and drafting Rubstov and Laberge was solid. Great value. Jay O'Brien was a fantastic pick. He was such good value with K'Andre Miller still on the board.

Hextall had a great plan and I was completely on board with it. But he made some terrible draft picks and if he had hit on more he'd probably still be here.

Here comes the son to defend the dad. It will never end. It wasn't a good move. All part of the plan that Saint Ronnie never had. Oh my bad wasn't allowed to see through. You crack me up Cliff.
- hello it's me 2050

Another poor take. I was not a fan of Hextall but the Hartnell trade was clearly one of his good moves. Hartnell gave Columbus 2 good seasons and was bought out after year 3. Umberger wasnt brought in to help the team. He was brought in to clear cap space. His cap hit was smaller and had 1 less year on it. Columbus still had Hartnell on the books until the end of 2020-21.

Umberger was off the books at the end of 2017-18