Trotz would be perfect for Florida. Top guys would sacrifice some points but with such a weak D core a more structured game would help them immensely. They still would score. If I’m him, I’m at least waiting to see if that job becomes available.

I want them to become a team that can win, 2-1, when it needs to amd can also pick apart an opponent that gets frustrated/sloppy. I want them to become a team where there is a culture of accountability. I want them to become a team where players collectively are put in position to succeed. I want the guy who is widely considered the dean of goalie coaches to come along with a stellar head coach.

You may have a burning desire to see the Flyers become the Buffalo Sabres or Edmonton (where there are two bonafide superstars but are still unlikely to come out of their conference). I care about the team game, and the team game needs a LOT of work.

Trotz is the ideal coach to improve that, and he has shown he can coach everything from modest rosters to Cup contenders as effectively as possible. Damn right I want him as coach if he wants to come here.
- bmeltzer

Flyers have always had the means to get the best coaches at all positons. Why haven't they? Korn and the Francois guy you never hear the flyers even involved. Have they ever pursued either of them over the years? Those are just 2 examples.

The culture of accountability starts at the top.

The only thing that matters is winning. Remember how horrible it was watching the boring Devils hoist the Cup or the left-wing lock of the Redwings bring them the Cup? Were their fans unhappy because it wasn’t Edmonton vs Calgary 9-6 hockey? Nope! Bring in Trotz. Let him try to mold this team in to a winner. Give him time to change the culture on the ice and in the locker room. Almost everything I’ve ever read is that he’s a great person and his players love him and respect him. Yes a few outliers here and there but he is one of the winningest coaches of all time. Why wouldn’t we want that?
- mikeyo27

still too many members of the coach killing core still around. Need to purge them first.

I think Sanheim and Provorov will play a lot better in a structured system. One of them will likely have to be moved at season end so a year in Trotz’s system will only increase their trade value.

Trotz is not going to magically turn this team into a contender overnight. What he can do is get everything out of what’s here already and build a foundation for the future when better talent can be added. Are Nemec or Jiricek a future superstar? I don’t know but I would feel better about either reaching their upmost potential under Trotz then any other coach. Same with York, Attard and even the goaltenders for that matter.
- psuhockey

It may increase the value. Not a guarantee.

With York and Attard I agree what your saying; as well as others who havent bene poisoned. Any holdovers who have been here a long time I am very skeptical.

Also getting everything out of what is already here isnt all that promising either!!! Maybe a player or 2 steps up. Most is what you see is what you get wit this group imo

People need to start taking the fact that Johnny Guadreau will be here next year more seriously
- black_francis

Trotz + Gaudreau + The Triumphant Return of Mighty Ryan Ellis = Stanley Cup

(oh, and dump TK + 2nd to Arizona to make it possible)

Trotz gets a lot of credit (and rightfully so) for building up the Nashville franchise. But he never even took that team to the conference finals. It took him going to a way more talented roster in the Caps to get to the SCF.

Even if he comes here, there is still a dearth of talent on this roster. I mean, how many times has Chuck reiterated the need to add 'high-end talent' over the past 6 months?

Who is Trotz's Nate Thompson?

Trotz gets a lot of credit (and rightfully so) for building up the Nashville franchise. But he never even took that team to the conference finals. It took him going to a way more talented roster in the Caps to get to the SCF.

Even if he comes here, there is still a dearth of talent on this roster. I mean, how many times has Chuck reiterated the need to add 'high-end talent' over the past 6 months?
- TobyFlenderson

Talent ultimately wins Cups. A good structure or system only gets a team so far. When the playoffs wind down and the games between two even teams get tight, its often the individual effort of a top end talented player that pushes their team over the top in these types of games. Want an example, just look at last year's final. Montreal's system got them to the finals, but Tampa's talent won them their 2nd straight cup.

I think we would get a definitive answer on whether Carter Hart is a franchise goalie if Mitch Korn arrives.

I worried Trotz would agree to a deal on the spot in WPG since it’s his hometown. I disagree with people saying he’s not a fit. Trotz is one of the better coaches in the league. Any chance you have an opportunity to bring a Cup winning coach you have to consider it. He turned around the Isles after losing JT. Of course everything will depend on our teams health after this past brutal season.

Talent ultimately wins Cups. A good structure or system only gets a team so far. When the playoffs wind down and the games between two even teams get tight, its often the individual effort of a top end talented player that pushes their team over the top in these types of games. Want an example, just look at last year's final. Montreal's system got them to the finals, but Tampa's talent won them their 2nd straight cup.
- jd250

Of course you need talent….but since we are not quite there, perhaps a good solid structure and system “that everyone buys into” is a good place to start.

Talent ultimately wins Cups. A good structure or system only gets a team so far. When the playoffs wind down and the games between two even teams get tight, its often the individual effort of a top end talented player that pushes their team over the top in these types of games. Want an example, just look at last year's final. Montreal's system got them to the finals, but Tampa's talent won them their 2nd straight cup.
- jd250

That's my point. The Flyers don't have that talent.

Also, if Montreal made it to the SCF because of their system, why did they fire their coach halfway through this year? They made the SCF because they had one of the most talented goalies over the past 15 years play out of his mind, plus budding stars in Suzuki and Caufield.

I worried Trotz would agree to a deal on the spot in WPG since it’s his hometown. I disagree with people saying he’s not a fit. Trotz is one of the better coaches in the league. Any chance you have an opportunity to bring a Cup winning coach you have to consider it. He turned around the Isles after losing JT. Of course everything will depend on our teams health after this past brutal season.
- arichardson22

Nah he will make the interview rounds imo

Trotz would be perfect for Florida. Top guys would sacrifice some points but with such a weak D core a more structured game would help them immensely. They still would score. If I’m him, I’m at least waiting to see if that job becomes available.
- ClaudeFather

Spot on. I think he doesn't decide until this round is over. If Florida's bounced this round he lets it be known he wants to coach there.

That's my point. The Flyers don't have that talent.

Also, if Montreal made it to the SCF because of their system, why did they fire their coach halfway through this year? They made the SCF because they had one of the most talented goalies over the past 15 years play out of his mind, plus budding stars in Suzuki and Caufield.
- TobyFlenderson

The Flyers don’t have talent so they can’t hire a good coach?

Trotz is a great coach but is he a good fit in Philly? It’s a tough sell to get young players to play his boring dump and chase. Do the Flyers have the players willing and able to play that way? There would likely be a roster revamp.

Barry has been great developing D men and goalies. Pelech, Pulock and last year Dobson has thrived. Trotz likes veteran forwards. The young forwards have not thrived. Beau, Bellows, Barzal, and Wally are all lagging in their development.

if the rumors were true that hextall told the new ownership that his vision for the pens future was something that could not be articulated into the written word, that is perilous but also hilarious.

i know you guys said he liked to buck authority, but jesus.

The Flyers don’t have talent so they can’t hire a good coach?
- ClaudeFather

Not my point. They can hire who they want. Until they get the talent, they're not going to seriously contend. And if they hire Trotz I fear he will give them a false sense of contention that they will continue to make rash decisions when it comes to trades and free agent signings.

if the rumors were true that hextall told the new ownership that his vision for the pens future was something that could not be articulated into the written word, that is perilous but also hilarious.

i know you guys said he liked to buck authority, but jesus.
- stayinthefnnet

seen that reported in several places. Saint Ronnie the smartest man in the room.

seen that reported in several places. Saint Ronnie the smartest man in the room.
- hello it's me 2050

its so ridiculous its actually funny.

at that point just draw a big middle finger on your notepad and hand it off to them.

its so ridiculous its actually funny.

at that point just draw a big middle finger on your notepad and hand it off to them.
- stayinthefnnet

Would a person in management really say that? That is just hard to believe.

Of course you need talent….but since we are not quite there, perhaps a good solid structure and system “that everyone buys into” is a good place to start.
- landros 2

Yes, the Flyers are not going from last to Cup in one season, apparently only the Red Sox can do that :-) Hiring a good coach like Trotz who comes in with credibility and a proven system is a step in the right direction. He will certainly get this team playing more defensively sound and unlike AV, seems to have much less of an ego and players seem to want to play for him. Also, I don't think Trotz in any way stifles offense. Looking at his time in Washington for example, players like Kutnetsov and Backstrom really thrived under his system, and Ovechkin was .. well .. Ovechkin. I really hope Fletcher does not let Trotz walk away on Friday until he has signed a contract. The sky should be the limit for Trotz IMO.

Not my point. They can hire who they want. Until they get the talent, they're not going to seriously contend. And if they hire Trotz I fear he will give them a false sense of contention that they will continue to make rash decisions when it comes to trades and free agent signings.
- TobyFlenderson

So, Hextall was the only Flyers GM that never made rash decisions when it comes to trades and free agency?

Not my point. They can hire who they want. Until they get the talent, they're not going to seriously contend. And if they hire Trotz I fear he will give them a false sense of contention that they will continue to make rash decisions when it comes to trades and free agent signings.
- TobyFlenderson

This is going to happen no matter what, have you been paying attention? Our GM and president 4 months ago claimed we were 2-3 players away.

Yes, the Flyers are not going from last to Cup in one season, apparently only the Red Sox can do that :-) Hiring a good coach like Trotz who comes in with credibility and a proven system is a step in the right direction. He will certainly get this team playing more defensively sound and unlike AV, seems to have much less of an ego and players seem to want to play for him. Also, I don't think Trotz in any way stifles offense. Looking at his time in Washington for example, players like Kutnetsov and Backstrom really thrived under his system, and Ovechkin was .. well .. Ovechkin. I really hope Fletcher does not let Trotz walk away on Friday until he has signed a contract. The sky should be the limit for Trotz IMO.
- jd250

so if Trotz walks without a contract is that chucks fault?