why would Trotz sign with the first team n interviewed with? He will make the rounds as he should.
- hello it's me 2050

Why do you always ask dumb questions?

1) It was an interview, you dont know that an offer was made on the spot

2) If Trotz wants to be there and it is his 1st choice he takes it immediately.

There are just as many reasons to take it as there are to wait.

Your top 5 is not that far out of the realm of possibility TBH.

Personally I am hoping for Nemec out of all of them (with the caveat that Wright is a non starter).
- MBFlyerfan

After Wright, it's gonna be a toss up who goes from 2-8. The margin between the prospects are so thin and all the teams value different things.

Hard to believe that the last Battle of Alberta was 31 years ago?!?!?

Why do you always ask dumb questions?

1) It was an interview, you dont know that an offer was made on the spot

2) If Trotz wants to be there and it is his 1st choice he takes it immediately.

There are just as many reasons to take it as there are to wait.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

go back and read the post I responded too. Then figure it out.

no there isnt. He also will not take it right away even if it is his #1 choice. That isn't how business is conducted.

You are just a naïve person. Very clueless for the most part.

If I were a Trotz I’d be using Comcast’s bank account for leverage against the Jets too.

Not sure that is the case. Wouldn't it be the last as you get the other offers first then take to the team you want?

I am sure he has an idea where he wants to go and what will be offered. Still makes sense to go in person to hear others out.
- hello it's me 2050

Fair enough, we'll see what the Flyers have to offer. Maybe he goes to Vegas next. At least the Flyers are getting a shot.

Are there any coaching candidates out there that don’t prioritize “puck possession”.

Why even write or talk about that. Who is going to say “you know we’d like to have the puck but it’s not up there on our priority list”
- Just5

Barry Trotz preaches "strategic dumps" as a primary form of zone entry. No surprise that the Islanders have been a below-average possession team for his entire tenure.

AV also did the "strategic dump" thing... probably copying Trotz. Too bad the Flyers were too slow and small to recover many dump ins.

So yeah, there are still coaches who don't prioritize puck possession.

Fair enough, we'll see what the Flyers have to offer. Maybe he goes to Vegas next. At least the Flyers are getting a shot.
- Trox88

I will assume his agent is good. There is nothing to lose to speak with all interested parties unless you flat out are not interested no matter what.

He will do his due diligence. Then play the offers against each other as someone said. Smart business.

My guess is he get more than Babcock did

Barry Trotz preaches "strategic dumps" as a primary form of zone entry. No surprise that the Islanders have been a below-average possession team for his entire tenure.

AV also did the "strategic dump" thing... probably copying Trotz. Too bad the Flyers were too slow and small to recover many dump ins.

So yeah, there are still coaches who don't prioritize puck possession.
- Tomahawk

Trotz (during his Caps tenure): "“Teams were really clogging us up and when we needed to chip pucks and have self-retrieval we were trying to dangle. I call it analytics death. There’s a time to carry and there’s a time to self-chip it. You’ve got all the speed so self-chip it, get on the other side of the guy, and hang on to it. We were trying to dangle guys.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us...8edca432e9b08f8300b54d626

now this is funny as hell

My dream draft scenario:

1) Montreal - Wright...because they have to
2) New Jersey - Nemec...because they need to stock up more on D
3) Arizona - Slafkovsky
4) Seattle - Jiricek...because they need young D BAD
5) Flyers - Cooley

then blah blah blah

Flyers trade the rights to O'Brien and something else for a mid-late 1st and select Seamus Casey.

Flyers trade JvR to Seattle for one of their 2nd round picks...the Flyers eat 2m.

Flyers use the 2nd round pick to select Filip Bystedt.

*wipes hands*

Let's go home.
- Glak18

Getting Jiricek off the board before we have to pick would be a godsend

I will assume his agent is good. There is nothing to lose to speak with all interested parties unless you flat out are not interested no matter what.

He will do his due diligence. Then play the offers against each other as someone said. Smart business.

My guess is he get more than Babcock did
- hello it's me 2050

You may have already stated it, but do you have a preference on who you would like as the next Flyers coach?

You may have already stated it, but do you have a preference on who you would like as the next Flyers coach?
- hockeylover

Take a shot on an up and comer (not sure who). More in tune with todays game. Someone who can develop pro players. That isn't likely to happen. Gronberg I take a shot at.

Would be ok with Montgomery as not a total retread by any means.

There are good coaches like Trotz available. Where the flyers are at it isn't a good fit imo.

Take a shot on an up and comer (not sure who). More in tune with todays game. Someone who can develop pro players. That isn't likely to happen. Gronberg I take a shot at.

Would be ok with Montgomery as not a total retread by any means.

There are good coaches like Trotz available. Where the flyers are at it isn't a good fit imo.
- hello it's me 2050

Didn't work well with Hakstol

Take a shot on an up and comer (not sure who). More in tune with todays game. Someone who can develop pro players. That isn't likely to happen. Gronberg I take a shot at.

Would be ok with Montgomery as not a total retread by any means.

There are good coaches like Trotz available. Where the flyers are at it isn't a good fit imo.
- hello it's me 2050

I would be surprised if Trotz came here. I agree, I would like someone who can coach to how today's game is played. Gronberg sounds good, and I read Montgomery likes a puck possession game. We'll see how it plays out.

Didn't work well with Hakstol
- 2Real

wasnt near as bad as made out to be. Plus he had a dictator GM who was oh very little help.

Those Panthers sure looked unimpressive last night. In fact, they really haven't looked all that impressive during this playoff run. These Cats used up 7 of their lives to get by the Caps and easily could have lost that series with a few bounces of the puck going against them. Ruh Roh! The bloom has come off the rose.
- Phillywhiteout

A few bounces of the puck going the other way. Sounds like the majority of playoff series.

He had three separate injuries, missed 16 games and was still hurt when the season ended. His whole game is based on throwing his weight around, and he'll be 28 years old in October starting a five year deal. Only a dullard wouldn't be concerned.
- Feanor

I'm far more concerned about Ristolainen being in the lineup than out of the lineup.

but he's going to be a short-pass or chip off the glass guy most of the time.
- bmeltzer

Perfect for the Flyers.

For me, after pouring through scouting reports recently:

1 - Wright
2 - Cooley
3 - Nemec
4 - Savoie

I would question how well Kemell's zone entry prowess will translate to the narrower NHL ice.

I would be ok dropping Savoie a bit based on his concussion history, but I do think his game will translate very well to the NHL, more so than the rest in consideration at #5 that I didn't list.
- Quetzalcoatl

I think Savoie, like Travis Konecny, will be better off at wing than center as a pro although he has played center often as a junior.

Some scouts say that Savoie will require his fair share of developmental patience as a pro. I have talked to scouts who think he will need 2-3 pro seasons (4-5 years post draft) for him to start figuring out what will work for him at the NHL level.

Otherwise, he may not getting enough puck touches if he doesn't adapt. Good speed. Very good puck skills. Has the makings of a good PP guy. But he may not fast-track to being an NHL impact player. There will be a multi-year process involved to evolve his game and get stronger physically.

The possibility for a protracted learning curve as a pro is why Button doesn't have Savoie in his personal top 15, although he believes the player could go in the top 10 or so and there's a potential nice reward on the other side of the process if handled right. Very similar to what he's said of Morgan Frost.

I think Savoie, like Travis Konecny, will be better off at wing than center as a pro although he has played center often as a junior.

Some scouts say that Savoie will require his fair share of developmental patience as a pro. I have talked to scouts who think he will need 2-3 pro seaaonsn(and 4-5 years post draft) to start figuring out what will work for him as a pro.

Otherwise, he may not getting enough puck touches if he doesn't adapt. Good speed. Very good puck skills. Has the makings of a good PP guy. But he may not fast-track to being an NHL impact player. There will be a multi-year process involved to evolve his game and get stronger physically.

The possibility for a protracted learning curve as a pro is why Button doesn't have Savoie in his personal top 15, although he believes the player could go in the top 10 or so and there's a potential nice reward on the other side of the process if handled right. Very similar to what he's said of Morgan Frost.
- bmeltzer

Is there anyone in the top 5 Bill that could be impact players on an NHL roster this upcoming season?

Getting Jiricek off the board before we have to pick would be a godsend
- 2Real

This the main thing I’m hoping to see. There’s a big fall off on D men after those two so I’m hoping to see someone move ahead of us to take Jiricek right after Nemec is off the board. That would mean one of Slafkovsky or Cooley falls to us.

I think Savoie, like Travis Konecny, will be better off at wing than center as a pro although he has played center often as a junior.

Some scouts say that Savoie will require his fair share of developmental patience as a pro. I have talked to scouts who think he will need 2-3 pro seaaonsn(and 4-5 years post draft) to start figuring out what will work for him as a pro.

Otherwise, he may not getting enough puck touches if he doesn't adapt. Good speed. Very good puck skills. Has the makings of a good PP guy. But he may not fast-track to being an NHL impact player. There will be a multi-year process involved to evolve his game and get stronger physically.

The possibility for a protracted learning curve as a pro is why Button doesn't have Savoie in his personal top 15, although he believes the player could go in the top 10 or so and there's a potential nice reward on the other side of the process if handled right. Very similar to what he's said of Morgan Frost.
- bmeltzer

What stands out for me about those 4 that I listed including Savoie is that they are they only ones consistently checking 3 key boxes in scouting reports:

1) Top line potential skills
2) High hockey IQ/hockey sense
3) Strong compete level/work ethic

None of the other prospects get consistently high marks in all 3 categories.

This the main thing I’m hoping to see. There’s a big fall off on D men after those two so I’m hoping to see someone move ahead of us to take Jiricek right after Nemec is off the board. That would mean one of Slafkovsky or Cooley falls to us.
- hereticpride

that and the injury prone rumors

that and the injury prone rumors
- 2Real

He had a knee injury in January. Had surgery and has since returned to action, playing well. I would have no issue with the Flyers taking him at No. 5 as long as the medical exam goes fine.