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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits:Konecny, Ginning, TIFH (Game 2 2010 ECF)
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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 10:42 AM ET
Yep, pesky facts.

- NC Flyers Fan

yeah 17+ minutes are pesky facts. Is that not bottom pairing minutes?

omg
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

May 18 @ 10:42 AM ET
more than you
- hello it's me 2050


That is how a child answers. What is the number of games did you watch?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 10:43 AM ET
No other NHL teams have a player around 6'4 205lbs?
- dubc55

clearly you missed the point.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

May 18 @ 10:43 AM ET
Are there any coaching candidates out there that don’t prioritize “puck possession”.

Why even write or talk about that. Who is going to say “you know we’d like to have the puck but it’s not up there on our priority list”

- Just5

We can’t seem to find that coach…
we continue with dump and chase without the talent to handle that scheme.
Not even sure we have people to carry pucks up ice.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 18 @ 10:44 AM ET
While I fully expect Attard and Zamula to get NHL time next season, for planning purposes, I hope it looks more like this.

Zamula-Attard
Ginning-Wylie
Hogberg-Zech
Millman

- NC Flyers Fan


With the lack of cap space, and injury concerns for not just Ellis but Risto, I tend to think Attard will get a lot of NHL games next season.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
The will have at least 1 vet. As they probably should. Wont be shocked in the least if hogberg goes back to Europe. Also wont be shocked if Zamula is traded.
- hello it's me 2050


You have a real talent for not being shocked.

rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
If he hadn't been a 2nd round pick, I am not positive he'd have been signed, no. But he was good in the playoffs for FBK, and that probably clinched it on top of where he was drafted and his size.
- bmeltzer


This GM and leadership team should have no allegiance to the previous GMs draft picks.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 10:47 AM ET
That is how a child answers. What is the number of games did you watch?
- WhiskeyMan

The number doesn't matter as it wont change anything I have said nor will it change what has been said about Ginning. As I said more than you

He is low level prospect who did not really progress in 4 years over in Sweden. The guys has rarely been talked about by the flyers organization any way. Why is that you think? Had he been a lower rd pick they likely do not sign him. They see size and get a big boner. That being said There is no risk in signing him at this point. Just another in a long line of likely wasted picks by the prior regime.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
You have a real talent for not being shocked.
- Feanor

Do you have any talent at all? If so please do tell.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
This GM and leadership team should have no allegiance to the previous GMs draft picks.
- rayc16


Yeah, it really shouldn't come into their thinking.

The positive thing is that since he's already 22, the ELC is only for two years.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 10:51 AM ET
With the lack of cap space, and injury concerns for not just Ellis but Risto, I tend to think Attard will get a lot of NHL games next season.
- Feanor

why would there be concerns about the health of RR? Less this year he really hasn't missed any time.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
Do you have any talent at all? If so please do tell.
- hello it's me 2050


I'm not shocked you reacted this way.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
I'm not shocked you reacted this way.
- Feanor

omg
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
why would there be concerns about the health of RR? Less this year he really hasn't missed any time.
- hello it's me 2050


He had three separate injuries, missed 16 games and was still hurt when the season ended. His whole game is based on throwing his weight around, and he'll be 28 years old in October starting a five year deal. Only a dullard wouldn't be concerned.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

May 18 @ 10:59 AM ET
The number doesn't matter as it wont change anything I have said nor will it change what has been said about Ginning. As I said more than you

He is low level prospect who did not really progress in 4 years over in Sweden. The guys has rarely been talked about by the flyers organization any way. Why is that you think? Had he been a lower rd pick they likely do not sign him. They see size and get a big boner. That being said There is no risk in signing him at this point. Just another in a long line of likely wasted picks by the prior regime.

- hello it's me 2050


The anger and hate I sense in your posts seemed liked you watched him play.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

May 18 @ 11:03 AM ET
clearly you missed the point.
- hello it's me 2050


What's your point then?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 11:08 AM ET
He had three separate injuries, missed 16 games and was still hurt when the season ended. His whole game is based on throwing his weight around, and he'll be 28 years old in October starting a five year deal. Only a dullard wouldn't be concerned.
- Feanor

he has no prior history of being injured. Not a concern to me. This whole he throws his weight around stuff is so overblown along with his physicality. Only a paranoid individual would be concerned.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
The anger and hate I sense in your posts seemed liked you watched him play.
- WhiskeyMan

you confuse anger and hate for reality.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
What's your point then?
- dubc55

flyers hockey baby
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

May 18 @ 11:11 AM ET
I'm not shocked you reacted this way.
- Feanor


Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

May 18 @ 11:12 AM ET
The anger and hate I sense in your posts seemed liked you watched him play.
- WhiskeyMan


Robert's Plant
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.23.2021

May 18 @ 11:12 AM ET
Those Panthers sure looked unimpressive last night. In fact, they really haven't looked all that impressive during this playoff run. These Cats used up 7 of their lives to get by the Caps and easily could have lost that series with a few bounces of the puck going against them. Ruh Roh! The bloom has come off the rose.
- Phillywhiteout


Fully agree. I had them and Tampa getting to round 2, and have Tampa going to round 3.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

May 18 @ 11:13 AM ET
The number doesn't matter as it wont change anything I have said nor will it change what has been said about Ginning. As I said more than you

He is low level prospect who did not really progress in 4 years over in Sweden. The guys has rarely been talked about by the flyers organization any way. Why is that you think? Had he been a lower rd pick they likely do not sign him. They see size and get a big boner. That being said There is no risk in signing him at this point. Just another in a long line of likely wasted picks by the prior regime.

- hello it's me 2050


Here you go again. I didn't miss your point. You seem to have a complex with the Flyers drafting anyone with size. Ginning isn't that big. Go take a look at the Tampa Bay Lightning defense. They're huge.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
Here you go again. I didn't miss your point. You seem to have a complex with the Flyers drafting anyone with size. Ginning isn't that big. Go take a look at the Tampa Bay Lightning defense. They're huge.
- dubc55

Not sure where you get I have an issue with the drafting anyone with size as that is 100% false.

The flyers organization is infatuated with size. Doesn't matter if you are a good hockey player. That is secondary. I am sure you and other flyer fans will disagree.

Bogo 6’2 – 200
Cernak 6’3 – 230
Ryn mac 6’1 215
Sergachev 6’3 215

Ginning 6'3 or 4 not sure weight wise. So if he isn't that big then what is he compared to Tampa's size?

obviously hedman is a giant.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
Still no coach…?

Tells me Trotzky is going to Lost Wages.
They have a team that plays with some passion.

- konalover711


I don't have a problem taking their time with this.
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