Bob Habib
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It's not really all about the players stats, it's more about their skillset and whether they can translate that to the NHL. How many junior scoring leaders have flopped in the NHL? A lot.
On the other hand though, with some of the players they hand out contracts to they might as well throw them at some skills guys and hope they hit for once. - Glak18
Exactly my point! This guy is a swing for the fence type kid let's see how he does. He can't do worse than some of the stiffs we currently have
Maybe he can turn to a Danny briere type or Martin st louis. You just never know. Another late round pick hat recently come to mind is dolla bill Kirill
They swing for it and look at what happened.
Did CF draft this kid? |
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Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Based just off raw numbers and what I read he has some potential. You also need players for the AHL. Seeing who they keep around no risk in signing him. Just seems like there may be something more to it.
Hopefully they let all the others like strome sushko and what not all walk. That page needs to be turned.
JR Avon looks like a nice free agent signing by the Chuck. Highly rated then rough 1st year of juniors. maybe he just slipped through the cracks. - hello it's me 2050
I forgot about Jr Avon!! Nice call!
I read some articles from mclennan's former coaches and they speak very highly owned and feel that he has NHL talent.
But you may be right that there's more to it and if that is true it's unfortunate because I think this kid is worth swinging for the fences with |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Exactly my point! This guy is a swing for the fence type kid let's see how he does. He can't do worse than some of the stiffs we currently have
Maybe he can turn to a Danny briere type or Martin st louis. You just never know. Another late round pick hat recently come to mind is dolla bill Kirill
They swing for it and look at what happened.
Did CF draft this kid? - Bob Habib
1) If there's a Briere type in the Flyers' org, it's Morgan Frost (the guy some here already want to give up on). That was the career arc predication that Craig Button made a couple months ago, and that was before Frost's strong finish to the season. I agree with Button FWIW.
https://open.spotify.com/...Apodcasts%3Aepisodes&nd=1
2) Big difference between swinging for the fences in the first round vs. using a 5th round pick (ala Kaprisov) or signing an undrafted free agent (Martin St. Louis). If you miss in the late rounds or especially on an undrafted player, there's very little risk involved. I do expect McClennon to be signed. If he's only a Danick Martel type, that's OK for where he was drafted. If he can become more than that, great.
3) Yes, Chuck Fletcher (or more accurately, Brent Flahr and the Wild scouts) drafted Kaprisov in 2015. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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https://www.si.com/nhl/penguins/news/pittsburgh-penguins-ron-hextall-hot-seat
According to Rossi, FSG has been conducting a thorough review of the entire organization.
Nothing is certain, but he doesn’t expect president of hockey operation Brian Burke to return next season and Hextall could be on the chopping block, as well.
It may have been a decision from Hextall that cost the Penguins their first round series; Sidney Crosby passed a concussion test prior to Game 6, but was told by the team he would not be playing.
Rossi said that this is a decision most likely to be made by the general manager. - hello it's me 2050
So Hextall gets fired for caring about another human's life? |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Seriously, do you people believe anything and everything that is written on the internet? - StepfordSam
step outside and look around
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step outside and look around - Scoob
fcs
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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1) If there's a Briere type in the Flyers' org, it's Morgan Frost (the guy some here already want to give up on). That was the career arc predication that Craig Button made a couple months ago, and that was before Frost's strong finish to the season. I agree with Button FWIW.
https://open.spotify.com/...Apodcasts%3Aepisodes&nd=1
2) Big difference between swinging for the fences in the first round vs. using a 5th round pick (ala Kaprisov) or signing an undrafted free agent (Martin St. Louis). If you miss in the late rounds or especially on an undrafted player, there's very little risk involved. I do expect McClennon to be signed. If he's only a Danick Martel type, that's OK for where he was drafted. If he can become more than that, great.
3) Yes, Chuck Fletcher (or more accurately, Brent Flahr and the Wild scouts) drafted Kaprisov in 2015. - bmeltzer
Maybe if we trade Frost to Arizona then they swap him to Buffalo for some development then he could become what the Flyers hope.
Or they could just stick with the tried and true method of constantly pairing him with random wingers that forces him to a different game from his strengths, send him up and down many times during the year then shrug while asking why he never panned out. |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Maybe if we trade Frost to Arizona then they swap him to Buffalo for some development then he could become what the Flyers hope.
Or they could just stick with the tried and true method of constantly pairing him with random wingers that forces him to a different game from his strengths, send him up and down many times during the year then shrug while asking why he never panned out. - Glak18
He was with Tippett pretty regularly late in the season. They generated a lot of scoring chances together -- especially in the 8 games where Noah Cates was the third member of the line. I posted their underlying numbers (albeit over a small sample size) and they were the best of every Flyers three-man combo that played at least 31 minutes together this season. Again, very small sample size. Who knows if it will carry over? But it's perhaps something they can build off.
https://twitter.com/billm...-Line--More%2F45%2F117280
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Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.01.2020
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1) If there's a Briere type in the Flyers' org, it's Morgan Frost (the guy some here already want to give up on). That was the career arc predication that Craig Button made a couple months ago, and that was before Frost's strong finish to the season. I agree with Button FWIW.
https://open.spotify.com/...Apodcasts%3Aepisodes&nd=1
2) Big difference between swinging for the fences in the first round vs. using a 5th round pick (ala Kaprisov) or signing an undrafted free agent (Martin St. Louis). If you miss in the late rounds or especially on an undrafted player, there's very little risk involved. I do expect McClennon to be signed. If he's only a Danick Martel type, that's OK for where he was drafted. If he can become more than that, great.
3) Yes, Chuck Fletcher (or more accurately, Brent Flahr and the Wild scouts) drafted Kaprisov in 2015. - bmeltzer
Thanks Bill!
Any idea why there is a good up getting him signed to a deal? |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Ginning is a 2nd round pick in 2018, has good size and has been playing in a top league in Sweden. Was also captain for Sweden at the WJCs. The Flyers really can't afford to miss on high picks like this so happy he will be signed and looking forward to seeing him play over here. - jd250
How does giving a bio, which everyone already knows, answer the question of whether he has an NHL future? |
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Elliotte Friedman
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Yes and he is currently on the hot seat. Might get fired already. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
He's not on the hot seat. If the new owner comes in and cleans house. It's not based on job performance.
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How does giving a bio, which everyone already knows, answer the question of whether he has an NHL future? - MJL
Cliff do you think he has an NHL future? Provide a little summary on the games you have seen him play. Thanks. |
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He's not on the hot seat. If the new owner comes in and cleans house. It's not based on job performance. - MJL
Shilling for the Saint. Your dad is so proud.
Nothing to do with performance at all. Nope. Nada. |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Thanks Bill!
Any idea why there is a good up getting him signed to a deal? - Bob Habib
I would suspect that there is uncertainty as to whether he projects as a future NHL player. My own view is that I'd rather go to the ECL route on a drafted late-rounder.
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hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: There's always next year., NT Joined: 08.03.2006
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Which was based on some random tweet.
Seriously, do you people believe anything and everything that is written on the internet? - StepfordSam
It was on the internet, so it MUST be true. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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He's not on the hot seat. If the new owner comes in and cleans house. It's not based on job performance. - MJL
If his job performance was good, they wouldnt decide to clean house. The fact is, he hasnt done a good enough job for ownership to sit there and say we need to keep this guy
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StepfordSam
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 02.06.2017
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Pens Inside Scoop
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Mike Sullivan: "Sid was not cleared for Game 6 by our doctors. Any of the reports that suggested otherwise are simply false. Our team doctors always have the last say in a player's health and ability to return to the lineup."
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KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 10.28.2007
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Mike Richards has got to be the most overrated Flyers player in the past twenty years. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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If his job performance was good, they wouldnt decide to clean house. The fact is, he hasnt done a good enough job for ownership to sit there and say we need to keep this guy - xShoot4WarAmpsx
You're speculating. It's obvious that his performance does not merit getting fired.
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Mike Richards has got to be the most overrated Flyers player in the past twenty years. - KGBflyers10
I can think of another but someone here will poop a brick if I say it so I’ll keep it to myself.
And no, it’s not G. |
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I can think of another but someone here will poop a brick if I say it so I’ll keep it to myself.
And no, it’s not G. - hereticpride
To be quite honest, there's a lot to choose from. |
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You're speculating. It's obvious that his performance does not merit getting fired. - MJL
How so Cliff? Do you know if he met the set goals that were required of him by ownership? What has he done to elevate that team that has 3 stars that cant get out of the first rd? Seems to be not meeting expectations as a GM.
just like you are speculating, oh my bad you deal in facts only. |
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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To be quite honest, there's a lot to choose from. - Pelle31Forever
Absolutely lol |
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Mike Richards has got to be the most overrated Flyers player in the past twenty years. - KGBflyers10
how so?
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