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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 16 @ 5:15 PM ET
on the Fan, Rob Rossi reported that a while back front office offered both malkin and letang the same 3yr @ 5 mil avg per yr. Contract.. Crosby wasn't happy about it he wants malkin back... Also, Crosby wanted to come back in game 6 after passing concussion protocol but hextall nixed it.... Rossi believes.both burke and hextall are gone, especially Burle...
- PENS1989


Yeah those contracts are a slap in the face lol.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
on the Fan, Rob Rossi reported that a while back front office offered both malkin and letang the same 3yr @ 5 mil avg per yr. Contract.. Crosby wasn't happy about it he wants malkin back... Also, Crosby wanted to come back in game 6 after passing concussion protocol but hextall nixed it.... Rossi believes.both burke and hextall are gone, especially Burle...
- PENS1989


1. That would have been incredible if they accepted that haha. Wow

2. Can’t wait to hear Burke poop on the burgh once he gets canned.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

May 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
on the Fan, Rob Rossi reported that a while back front office offered both malkin and letang the same 3yr @ 5 mil avg per yr. Contract.. Crosby wasn't happy about it he wants malkin back... Also, Crosby wanted to come back in game 6 after passing concussion protocol but hextall nixed it.... Rossi believes.both burke and hextall are gone, especially Burle...
- PENS1989

Nonsense...if Dr cleared Crosby to play game 6 what would be Hextalls motivation to nix it?
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 16 @ 5:39 PM ET
on the Fan, Rob Rossi reported that a while back front office offered both malkin and letang the same 3yr @ 5 mil avg per yr. Contract.. Crosby wasn't happy about it he wants malkin back... Also, Crosby wanted to come back in game 6 after passing concussion protocol but hextall nixed it.... Rossi believes.both burke and hextall are gone, especially Burle...
- PENS1989



Rossi was always a joke, but wow hes really stepped up his game.

Highly doubt they were offered deals that low. Big IF they did, they will be even more motivated to test FA.

And complete BS on the Crosby line. No way Sully sits him. Pretty sure Crosby would have told him to (frank) off ill coach from here on.

madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 16 @ 6:20 PM ET
Rossi was always a joke, but wow hes really stepped up his game.

Highly doubt they were offered deals that low. Big IF they did, they will be even more motivated to test FA.

And complete BS on the Crosby line. No way Sully sits him. Pretty sure Crosby would have told him to (frank) off ill coach from here on.

- sammy87


Yeah... I don't believe they made those offers.
avsgrinder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.24.2018

May 16 @ 6:23 PM ET
Nah MacKinnon's gonna win the Cup in Colorado this year and/or next year... he will then be signing a deal with Pittsburgh to play with his buddy, Sid.
- SuperHenderson13



we don’t need your bad joo-joo by putting this out into the universe!!!

in all seriousness, i’d die happy if i could to see mack & sid on the same team, or even better the same line (“move over mack and let a true master of the circle show you how it’s done; you can play wing!”)
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 16 @ 7:40 PM ET
Die on that hill bud.
- Feds91Stammer

Nah I’ll live on it. I want players that show up on the scoresheet for more than one shot on goal in big games. PPG or not.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 7:55 PM ET
Nah I’ll live on it. I want players that show up on the scoresheet for more than one shot on goal in big games. PPG or not.
- Grinder47

Hey as long as you are cool with guys that give up more than they score I’m happy for you.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

May 16 @ 8:01 PM ET
You really want to be a dirtbag just like Trouba eh?
- Feds91Stammer

Dirtbag just like Malkin u mean?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 16 @ 8:07 PM ET
No idea if those 3 year contract offers were true. I have my doubts considering Rossi is a clown and creates drama more than he reports on it.

However, whether its true or not, this story would be more likely to leak from Letang/Malkin's camp as a justification as to why they are leaving. They would show this as evidence that the Penguins were never interested in keeping them.

FSG is ruthless when it comes to players. They traded a Red Sox favorite, Mookie Betts, over a contract dispute and they have yet to agree with their star player for Liverpool, Mo Salah. They drive the analytics bus. They dont make decisions on emotions. In some ways thats good, and in other ways its bad.

If they base decisions on analytics, that will hopefully stop us from signing the Jack Johnsons of the world and wasting millions of dollars.

Most news sources are reporting what I reported about Burke last week. Surprised they arent saying the same about Hextall. Seems Hextall's in limbo, but how can you let a guy in limbo plan out your offseason? I feel like if you're going to make a change, you need to make one soon. And my friend said Sully is safe. He said FSG isnt going to fire him and he cant imagine a new GM would come in and fire him. He's well respected around the league.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 16 @ 8:16 PM ET
Yeah those contracts are a slap in the face lol.
- j.boyd919

To Letang.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 16 @ 8:30 PM ET
FSG is ruthless when it comes to players. They traded a Red Sox favorite, Mookie Betts, over a contract dispute and they have yet to agree with their star player for Liverpool, Mo Salah. They drive the analytics bus. They dont make decisions on emotions. In some ways thats good, and in other ways its bad.
- SuperHenderson13

That may be good for the team's level of competitiveness moving forward. Wouldn't be good for those hoping to see the big 3 retire here though.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 8:44 PM ET
Dirtbag just like Malkin u mean?
- nyrangers9479

Yeah he’s a poophead too. But boy you’re a (frank)ing clown still in here defending Trouba.
TopShelf66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: HAVERTOWN, PA
Joined: 06.30.2012

May 16 @ 9:39 PM ET
I thought plus minus was a dumb stat? Or did that change? I know facilitating goals in a game 7 is important to a win though.
- Grinder47


Jeff Carter fully earned those minuses in the series, he was atrocious anywhere but in the faceoff dot or standing 6 inches outside the crease on the goalie.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

May 16 @ 9:42 PM ET
Wonder if the new owners would want us to go after top FAs. They potentially could want us to be more aggressive and really change the team up for next season.
TopShelf66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: HAVERTOWN, PA
Joined: 06.30.2012

May 16 @ 9:42 PM ET
on the Fan, Rob Rossi reported that a while back front office offered both malkin and letang the same 3yr @ 5 mil avg per yr. Contract.. Crosby wasn't happy about it he wants malkin back... Also, Crosby wanted to come back in game 6 after passing concussion protocol but hextall nixed it.... Rossi believes.both burke and hextall are gone, especially Burle...
- PENS1989


If those reported numbers are true that is insulting to both players.
TopShelf66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: HAVERTOWN, PA
Joined: 06.30.2012

May 16 @ 9:45 PM ET
FSG is ruthless when it comes to players. They traded a Red Sox favorite, Mookie Betts, over a contract dispute and they have yet to agree with their star player for Liverpool, Mo Salah. They drive the analytics bus. They dont make decisions on emotions. In some ways thats good, and in other ways its bad.

- SuperHenderson13


Well based on that I would think they would easily pay both because analytically both grade out as top tier players even at their advanced ages.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 16 @ 10:08 PM ET
Well based on that I would think they would easily pay both because analytically both grade out as top tier players even at their advanced ages.
- TopShelf66


Especially Letang. He still does his thing
TopShelf66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: HAVERTOWN, PA
Joined: 06.30.2012

May 16 @ 11:49 PM ET
Especially Letang. He still does his thing
- 10inchTerror


Still Letangs price might not match their price in the end, so it should be interesting to say the least this off season
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 17 @ 5:20 AM ET
Jeff Carter fully earned those minuses in the series, he was atrocious anywhere but in the faceoff dot or standing 6 inches outside the crease on the goalie.
- TopShelf66

Yeah then there’s the fact that McGinn and Zucker both don’t do poop to help him lug the puck up ice, he usually starts his shifts in the Defensive zone and he was the teams second leading goal scorer in these playoffs. I think he needs better wingers and less responsibility.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

May 17 @ 5:47 AM ET
No idea if those 3 year contract offers were true. I have my doubts considering Rossi is a clown and creates drama more than he reports on it.

However, whether its true or not, this story would be more likely to leak from Letang/Malkin's camp as a justification as to why they are leaving. They would show this as evidence that the Penguins were never interested in keeping them.

FSG is ruthless when it comes to players. They traded a Red Sox favorite, Mookie Betts, over a contract dispute and they have yet to agree with their star player for Liverpool, Mo Salah. They drive the analytics bus. They dont make decisions on emotions. In some ways thats good, and in other ways its bad.

If they base decisions on analytics, that will hopefully stop us from signing the Jack Johnsons of the world and wasting millions of dollars.

Most news sources are reporting what I reported about Burke last week. Surprised they arent saying the same about Hextall. Seems Hextall's in limbo, but how can you let a guy in limbo plan out your offseason? I feel like if you're going to make a change, you need to make one soon. And my friend said Sully is safe. He said FSG isnt going to fire him and he cant imagine a new GM would come in and fire him. He's well respected around the league.

- SuperHenderson13


Betts wanted $420M, FSG offered him $300M. Betts eventually signed for $365M in LA. Salah was asking for 24M (pounds), they are now close to a deal at 20M.

I think this would be more under the tough but fair, rather than ruthless.

On another note, FSG also ran thru 3 managers in their first 2+ years. I don't have time to research into this at the moment. It does tell me they want the best and will settle for nothing less. So I think we're in for some interesting times.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 17 @ 10:29 AM ET
Pens Inside Scoop
@PensInsideScoop
·
8m
Rickard Rakell: "It was a great experience for me. I've learned a lot from the players and coaches here. I feel like this team had a lot of potential. This is definitely a place I would like to come back to and where I think I can take my game to the next level, as well."
Pens Inside Scoop
@PensInsideScoop
·
6m
Rickard Rakell: "I know this organization has a lot of free agents to take care of. From my standpoint, I'm just going to see what happens. I haven't put that much thought into it yet... but like I said, this is a team and a place I really want to come back to."
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 17 @ 10:42 AM ET
I’d take a gamble this off-season with the plan of not being afraid to trade more quality futures to fill holes.

Trade: Dumo, Zucker and McGinn
Let walk: Attempt to get something for Kap and Heinen’s rights. Let Erod walk if he wants anything above $1M.

Fill out the bottom six with DOC, Puustinen and Nylander. Try to find another Heinen-situation if possible, too.

DOC-Carter-Nylander
Zohorna-Blue-Puustinen
Some combo of these guys.

See how this shakes out then trade for any upgrades you can.

Start your top six out like this…

Jake-Sid-Rust
Palat-Geno-Rakell
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
Pens Inside Scoop
@PensInsideScoop
·
8m
Rickard Rakell: "It was a great experience for me. I've learned a lot from the players and coaches here. I feel like this team had a lot of potential. This is definitely a place I would like to come back to and where I think I can take my game to the next level, as well."
Pens Inside Scoop
@PensInsideScoop
·
6m
Rickard Rakell: "I know this organization has a lot of free agents to take care of. From my standpoint, I'm just going to see what happens. I haven't put that much thought into it yet... but like I said, this is a team and a place I really want to come back to."

- j.boyd919


I like all of that and I liked him on the ice. Hopefully he's back.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 17 @ 10:56 AM ET
I’d take a gamble this off-season with the plan of not being afraid to trade more quality futures to fill holes.

Trade: Dumo, Zucker and McGinn
Let walk: Attempt to get something for Kap and Heinen’s rights. Let Erod walk if he wants anything above $1M.

Fill out the bottom six with DOC, Puustinen and Nylander. Try to find another Heinen-situation if possible, too.

DOC-Carter-Nylander
Zohorna-Blue-Puustinen
Some combo of these guys.

See how this shakes out then trade for any upgrades you can.

Start your top six out like this…

Jake-Sid-Rust
Palat-Geno-Rakell

- Rinosaur


I'm totally fine with all of that.
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