All of this has nothing to do with the fact that his brother is on the team. That is the sole thing I object to. The previous poster implied that signing him would be to keep the family happy (or something along those lines). I personally find that rational utterly stupid. Just my thing. I'm not saying it won't happen, but I think it's stupid to do so for that reason.
- Chunk

For sure Davidson has to make a decision on c Jones. If he was a very promising dman, Edm would not have traded him just to get the fading Keith. While it may be that C Jones develops, it will.be at least two seasons playing regularly. I don't see C Jones becoming a fair third pair, just too inconsistent. I would rather gamble with our own drafted youngsters who we see improvement each season.

In short, C Jones just blocks another prospect from playing. And he won't develop well if he plays sporadicly.

As for S Jones, he is in a position for Chicago next season much like Keith his last few seasons in Chicago. Not worthy of being the top pair guy but imagine the defense if he is gone. Mc Cabe, Murphy, a youngster as first pair. That is a recipe for poor attendance although qualification for lottery won't be a problem

Didn't Trotz have Robin "It's Not My Fault" Lehner on the Isle for a season?

Rota's Rooter

Yeah,he and Thomas Greiss split the time. They won the Vezina. Only on a Trotz team could those 2 win a Vezina

For sure Davidson has to make a decision on c Jones. If he was a very promising dman, Edm would not have traded him just to get the fading Keith. While it may be that C Jones develops, it will.be at least two seasons playing regularly. I don't see C Jones becoming a fair third pair, just too inconsistent. I would rather gamble with our own drafted youngsters who we see improvement each season.

In short, C Jones just blocks another prospect from playing. And he won't develop well if he plays sporadicly.

As for S Jones, he is in a position for Chicago next season much like Keith his last few seasons in Chicago. Not worthy of being the top pair guy but imagine the defense if he is gone. Mc Cabe, Murphy, a youngster as first pair. That is a recipe for poor attendance although qualification for lottery won't be a problem
- jhawk59

I don't care either way on C. Jones. He's a young agile D-man. maybe you can make something out of him, maybe not. That's above my pay grade. My only contention is that there should be absolutely zero weight put on the fact that this brother is signed to the team long term. Full Stop. It's (frank)ing stupid.

S. Jones is certainly worthy of being a top pair guy. No, he's not Hedman, but he is a very good defenseman. Put something other than the rejects from the Helen Keller Institute around him and he'll show out much better (as will the other high end players on the team).

I don't care either way on C. Jones. He's a young agile D-man. maybe you can make something out of him, maybe not. That's above my pay grade. My only contention is that there should be absolutely zero weight put on the fact that this brother is signed to the team long term. Full Stop. It's (frank)ing stupid.

S. Jones is certainly worthy of being a top pair guy. No, he's not Hedman, but he is a very good defenseman. Put something other than the rejects from the Helen Keller Institute around him and he'll show out much better (as will the other high end players on the team).
- Chunk

Or a goaltender like Shisterkin

I don't care either way on C. Jones. He's a young agile D-man. maybe you can make something out of him, maybe not. That's above my pay grade. My only contention is that there should be absolutely zero weight put on the fact that this brother is signed to the team long term. Full Stop. It's (frank)ing stupid.

S. Jones is certainly worthy of being a top pair guy. No, he's not Hedman, but he is a very good defenseman. Put something other than the rejects from the Helen Keller Institute around him and he'll show out much better (as will the other high end players on the team).
- Chunk

We are in agreement. Here's to seeing some kids filtering into the lineup on defense, becoming pretty good, and complementing S Jones. Not unlikely to happen. The concern to me is, how soon and how good some kids on defense. And i
Of course drafting top line talent

Thanks Theo. TBH, I don’t think a new coach will make much difference next year. Like Ztra mentioned, I would also like to see more consistent D pairings next year. It should be an interesting off season, we’ll see if McCabe or Murphy come back, but for 9.5M reasons, S Jones has a 95% chance of staying in Chicago. I’m okay with S Jones’s game, just not okay with his salary and term, I would have liked his AAV to be around $7-$7.5M for say six years.

Is Oettinger considered that great of a goalie? I'll admit he's good, but I think in relation to their respective positions both players are about the same level - pretty good.

Now, trading him away for Nylander was questionable at best...
- Chunk

You must have missed the CLG DAL series. Oettinger was the best player on either team, and his play in game 7 was amazing.

Series 3-4-0, 1.81 GAA .954 save %, 1 Shut out
G7 stops 64 of 67 shots (95.5%) in 75 minutes

On of the best goaltending performances I've seen. And he's 23 years old. The Stars are set in goal for the next 10 years.

You must have missed the CLG DAL series. Oettinger was the best player on either team, and his play in game 7 was amazing.

Series 3-4-0, 1.81 GAA .954 save %, 1 Shut out
G7 stops 64 of 67 shots (95.5%) in 75 minutes

On of the best goaltending performances I've seen. And he's 23 years old. The Stars are set in goal for the next 10 years.
- scottak

Not to be glib, but that's one series. Look at Binnington, Niemi, Holtby, etc. All have had brief success, and then back to average or bad.

For the season he was 2.53 GAA, .914. Again, good not great. Let's see if he can keep it up for a while before saying they are set for the next 10 years.

You must have missed the CLG DAL series. Oettinger was the best player on either team, and his play in game 7 was amazing.

Series 3-4-0, 1.81 GAA .954 save %, 1 Shut out
G7 stops 64 of 67 shots (95.5%) in 75 minutes

On of the best goaltending performances I've seen. And he's 23 years old. The Stars are set in goal for the next 10 years.
- scottak

Agree with everything up to the last sentence. Could be that they are set, but it is a big leap from "hot goalie in a playoff series" to "set in goal for ten years." He was awesome, though.

Not to be glib, but that's one series. Look at Binnington, Niemi, Holtby, etc. All have had brief success, and then back to average or bad.

For the season he was 2.53 GAA, .914. Again, good not great. Let's see if he can keep it up for a while before saying they are set for the next 10 years.
- Chunk

Gotta read the fine print.

“Past performance may not be indicative of future results.”

Not to be glib, but that's one series. Look at Binnington, Niemi, Holtby, etc. All have had brief success, and then back to average or bad.

For the season he was 2.53 GAA, .914. Again, good not great. Let's see if he can keep it up for a while before saying they are set for the next 10 years.
- Chunk

Sorry, Chunk....didn't see your post before sending mine.

How about Karl Taylor of the Preds minor league team at Milwaukee? They are competitive every year, and they seem like they know how to develop talent even when much is not there. Maybe, that is who I talk to if I were the Hawks.

I don't care either way on C. Jones. He's a young agile D-man. maybe you can make something out of him, maybe not. That's above my pay grade. My only contention is that there should be absolutely zero weight put on the fact that this brother is signed to the team long term. Full Stop. It's (frank)ing stupid.

S. Jones is certainly worthy of being a top pair guy. No, he's not Hedman, but he is a very good defenseman. Put something other than the rejects from the Helen Keller Institute around him and he'll show out much better (as will the other high end players on the team).
- Chunk

Correct, we're not nearly good enough to care about #7 D-Men.

We are in agreement. Here's to seeing some kids filtering into the lineup on defense, becoming pretty good, and complementing S Jones. Not unlikely to happen. The concern to me is, how soon and how good some kids on defense. And i
Of course drafting top line talent
- jhawk59

Rockford just gave up 4.5 goals per game with our supposedly "great" AHL Goalie and up and coming defense. Oh boy!

Rockford just gave up 4.5 goals per game with our supposedly "great" AHL Goalie and up and coming defense. Oh boy!

- rpeters01

They were also outshot 20-1 in the first period of one of those games. Context is important. They are not a good team. Chicago is. Pretty much end of the story.

Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
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#Blackhawks GM Kyle Davidson on whether he hopes to acquire a first-round pick in this year’s draft: “It's definitely something we'll look at. Whether that's a possibility is a different question, but it's something I'm definitely interested in."

#Blackhawks GM Kyle Davidson said he doesn’t plan on fast-tracking head coaching search despite recent openings around the league: "We're going to run through our process on our end and we'll find the best candidate for us through that process."

They were also outshot 20-1 in the first period of one of those games. Context is important. They are not a good team. Chicago is. Pretty much end of the story.
- Chunk

Yes, I get tired of the "bring this guy up to see what we have" posts when they're not great in the minor league.

Rockford just gave up 4.5 goals per game with our supposedly "great" AHL Goalie and up and coming defense. Oh boy!

- rpeters01

Soderblom is 22 and in his first year in the AHL. He had a 2.99 gaa and a .925 save percentage in the playoffs. He was playing behind a very young defense with minimal AHL/NHL experience against a very good team. I am willing to give him more time.

Can anyone from the Toronto media market share some of the joy they are going through listening and watching the local media in the aftermath of the Leaves exit from the playoffs in round one?

Lucky bastages......

Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis
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#Blackhawks GM Kyle Davidson on whether he hopes to acquire a first-round pick in this year’s draft: “It's definitely something we'll look at. Whether that's a possibility is a different question, but it's something I'm definitely interested in."

#Blackhawks GM Kyle Davidson said he doesn’t plan on fast-tracking head coaching search despite recent openings around the league: "We're going to run through our process on our end and we'll find the best candidate for us through that process."
- Chunk

This gets me excited. Tells me he’s open to moving a bigger name as very few on this can fetch a 1st round pick back….

Can anyone from the Toronto media market share some of the joy they are going through listening and watching the local media in the aftermath of the Leaves exit from the playoffs in round one?

Lucky bastages......
- mohel

Next to the hawks winning a series my second favorite is the leafs melting down. Great Saturday night.

Canadian media can protect dumbass or shanhan all they want. Fact is they continue to roll out the same group with a patchwork aging d corps and a random goalie and it won’t work. To me they trade nylander and look to get a top 4 d man back.

I’d love to see the hawks dangle Murphy to them and see if he’s desperate enough to give the hawks a 1 back.

Live shots of sad leafs fans in packs warms my cold heart…..

Gotta read the fine print.

“Past performance may not be indicative of future results.”
- Ogilthorpe2

Binnington hits this mantra. Went back to him after the other kid wet the bed vs wild.

Bad, banged up blues d with that sieve =cake walk for the avs

Avs very could make the cup final at 12-2 or 12-3 if Calgary beats Edmonton. Fresh legs vs whoever escapes the meat grinder that is the eastern conference.

What is the over/under on Keefe keeping the job in TOR? Not saying I want him in Chicago, but just curious as to his job security there. I'm assuming mgmt thinks they should be a much more competitive team, no?
- Chunk

I do!

Soderblom is 22 and in his first year in the AHL. He had a 2.99 gaa and a .925 save percentage in the playoffs. He was playing behind a very young defense with minimal AHL/NHL experience against a very good team. I am willing to give him more time.
- Ztra

And we saw what he had in front of the current Hawk team already, right?

He can even have the entire next season in Chicago to have time...

Binnington hits this mantra. Went back to him after the other kid wet the bed vs wild.

Bad, banged up blues d with that sieve =cake walk for the avs

Avs very could make the cup final at 12-2 or 12-3 if Calgary beats Edmonton. Fresh legs vs whoever escapes the meat grinder that is the eastern conference.
- SteveRain

While your prognostication could end up being true, the Blues will be a tough out, even with their injuries. I’m not saying they’ll beat the Avs, but they are built for playoff hockey.