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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 9:04 AM ET
I ate a whole bag through game 6 and 7.

- Scabeh


hard to find a better candy

I ate my finger nails through game 6 and 7
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 16 @ 9:05 AM ET
hard to find a better candy

I ate my finger nails through game 6 and 7

- senstroll


Not a great habit but definitely more healthy.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 16 @ 9:07 AM ET
They did that pretty much this past season, added Lubush, Blackwell and Giordano at the deadline. Also signed Kampf as a depth defensive players...poop doesnt always work.

Danault is probably the best, but as you see it doesnt always work.. Ed still moved on.

I personally really dont care what they do this off season. it came down to inches and TB made it just a bit further, they got a lot of the benefit of the PIM play, I assume cuz champs.. little ticky tacky poop they can get away with. it all adds up and matters in the end. esp in a game 7, when a goal gets called off..

credit to the leafs tho, they do have a knack for choking it away in elimination games. there is a template for shutting them down it seems

- senstroll


Yes. It came down to inches. It was really that close. And the edge to Tampa was their veteran experience of having done it before.

Some Leaf fans are being way too hard. They only look at the final outcome from this year and claim there has been no progress. On the other hand, non Leaf fans are saying they are glad Tampa took out the Leafs because they believe the Leafs would be such a tough match up for every team. The Panthers know they got a break when they drew Tampa rather than the Leafs for the next round.




bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

May 16 @ 9:08 AM ET
hard to find a better candy

I ate my finger nails through game 6 and 7

- senstroll

Ya I have none left. My wife kept slapping me and had a face of disgust.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 16 @ 9:10 AM ET
100% man.

It’s so bizarre to me to have fans like Canucks fans chirp the Leafs for no Cup since 67 when they have NEVER EVER won a single Cup. It’s so odd.

Flames fans - 1989 that’s a pretty long time ago man and how many Cups does their franchise have?

Oilers fans - Since Gretz left they won that one after with Messier as their Captain - then what?

Ottawa? Yikes.

Winnipeg? They at one lost their bloody team as a City - and how many Cups?

Habs - I leave the Habs alone (even though 93 was a long ways ago) because they are the Habs. The Leafs and Habs are hockey. Meccas. Respect.

I do understand though. There are typically more Leafs fans in their barn every time Leafs play there. Makes sense. Sometimes team loyalty is passed down l, usually to be honest.

English Canadians - Leafs Fans
French - Habs Fans

It’s just how it was historically. So that gets passed down growing up.

The US based teams are just as odd. Some good teams in recent history and historically like the Wings Hawks Bruins - but I mean…Buffalo fans for example? Man that’s a tough look to obsess about the Leafs when, well you kore than likely live in Buffalo and cheer for one of the worst franchises in history of this league on my opinion.

- Big23Questions


Here is why its not so odd:
- No one cares about a cup won in 1967...all the leafs cups were won in a 6 team league.
- Leafs havent won a playoff series since 2004, every other Canadian team has won several.
- Every other Canadian team has been to the final 4 of the SCP since 2004:
Calgary, Edmonton, Van, Winni - once
Ottawa - Twice
Montreal - 3 times
- The leafs are a top two team in the league for revenue, fans, media attention etc....but yet they havent accomplished anything in decades.
- They're probably tired/jealous of all the attention a losing franchise like the leafs get a regular basis (reg season wins only matter if you are able to do something in the playoffs).
- Alot of Leafs fans were predicting several cup wins within a few years of getting JT and well they havent even come close.
- If the leafs were any other team in the NHL, Leafs fans would be constantly making fun of them.

So the leafs are an easy target.



Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 16 @ 9:13 AM ET
The Leafs are a very good team and they do not need to make major changes.

Goaltending and defense was good enough to win against Tampa.

Wait until midseason or the trade deadline and do what the Bolts always do. Trade for the 3rd line player that will give you an outstanding defensive game against the opposing team's better players. This year Tampa got Nick Paul, last year it was Blake Coleman.

Best UFA signing of last summer was Phillip Danault by the LA Kings. An elite defensive forward is not glamorous but they do help you win hockey games when it really matters.

- spatso

Well he didnt help LA win their series against the oilers.
Strider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.16.2013

May 16 @ 9:13 AM ET
Thanks - I was sure I deleted it but mea culpa it appears the delete didn't take. I have deleted it since and will say 2 things:

1. The "report post" function here is still broken so if anyone sees a post that needs attention pm me or Dozzer and provide us with the specifics and loction (what blog, what page) for us to look into it please and thanks.

2. We are human and miss things. That does not give anyone the right to come here and trash us or use profanity towards us. We don't allow it to be that way against other posters, why would anything this it's any different for Mods?

It won't be tolerated period. Full stop.

- Cush29


Personal insults and profanity are generally the norm in here. The real problem is that, for years, the political discourse dominated by those of a particular viewpoint drove a lot of posters and readers away and made it ok for a post like that to have been put up in the first place.

It's been much better lately though, thank you.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 16 @ 9:17 AM ET
I thought this Leafs team was, without question, the best one since the Dubas/Matthews era began.

Honestly, if it was possible, I'd roll with the exact same roster next year feeling very confident they could have a better result.

Unfortunately, with the Rielly raise, the RFAs and the UFA's due for a raise as well it'll be close to impossible to keep everyone.

Of course getting rid of Mrazek would help alot but how big of a pick will they have to lose just to do that?

And you suggested in another post Nylander might be the one to go. While I'll agree it feels like he's the most likely of the "big 4" to be moved, I don't think it's the right move because he's the biggest bargain of the bunch and I'm sticking to my guns saying he keeps scoring very big goals for the Leafs in the playoffs.

- Scabeh


I agree on Nylander. He has always been a big game player.

As far as the cap goes, relief is coming. There was a report last summer suggesting the cap would remain in the same range for another year, perhaps more. This was due to diminished revenues (covid) and need to work through the escrow adjustments. However, the same report indicated that there should be a bump in cap two years out due to post covid attendance and the new US tv contract coming into force.

I am not sure but I think the number was projected at a $96 m cap 3 years out.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 16 @ 9:18 AM ET
I did delete it, well before that specific poster went off in here. Sigh.
- Cush29

Its still there, last blog page 33.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 16 @ 9:18 AM ET
game 7 they def lost the same way, TB just clogged things up and didnt let them get a lot of HD chances. Vasi did the rest

Game 6 was different imo. they had the lead with 10 mins left. that was the time... but it wasnt meant to be, for some reason...5 on 3

I feel like they would have won game 6 in reg if that whole high stick that didnt happen sequence doesnt happen. just feels so leafy

- senstroll

Again, the leafs couldnt close out a series.
Vasi didnt play up to usual self the entire series outside of game 7, and leafs just couldnt take advantage and nail the series down.
The leafs were completely healthy, maybe not 100%, but they werent missing any of their star players.
Again, they just couldnt get past the 1st round.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 16 @ 9:19 AM ET
We'll he didnt help LA win their series against the oilers.
- Fakepartofme


Most people had LA as a non playoff team.

They had a very good season (for a rebuilding team loaded with prospects) and they took Edmonton to 7 games. They had a great year!
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 16 @ 9:21 AM ET
Personal insults and profanity are generally the norm in here. The real problem is that, for years, the political discourse dominated by those of a particular viewpoint drove a lot of posters and readers away and made it ok for a post like that to have been put up in the first place.

It's been much better lately though, thank you.

- Strider


I hate the amount of time Dozzer and I have to spend here to try and keep this place welcoming, within the CoC and just not a cess pool of BS. I expect it from those who just wish to come in here and troll, especially those from other team bases but what I find incredibly frustrating is having to moderate Leaf fans / those claiming to be Leaf fans who are in here pretty frequently.

To some degree that's the keyboard warrior mentality I guess. It's far too easy to say something behind the anonymity of a screen that one would never say to someone's face but that's not an issue unique to this place it's everywhere today.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 16 @ 9:22 AM ET
Its still there, last blog page 33.
- bobbyisno1


If you don't mind please refresh your page and let me know because it's showing deleted for me?
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 16 @ 9:23 AM ET
Personal insults and profanity are generally the norm in here. The real problem is that, for years, the political discourse dominated by those of a particular viewpoint drove a lot of posters and readers away and made it ok for a post like that to have been put up in the first place.

It's been much better lately though, thank you.

- Strider

This, 100%.

There should be a zero tolerance for any controversial topics and politics. I've seen busier forums manage to keep that stuff deleted within minutes of being posted. This is done by recruiting moderators from different time zones around the world and making sure you have at least one mod "on duty" at all times. Ek obviously doesn't care about anything other than traffic - regardless of what that traffic is. If it's people coming here to discuss hockey, then fine. If it's people coming here to flame each other over political stuff, then fine. It all sells ad impressions and that is what Ek cares about. It's the same reason that eBay is flooded with counterfeit items and brands - it's good for the bottom line and who cares what damage it does to the platform in the process.

Kudos to Cush and Dozer for running a tight ship in this particular forum at least. I wish the other teams' threads had better and more consistent moderation like this one.

EK : get a Tampa blogger and moderate your F-ing forums.





bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 16 @ 9:27 AM ET
Most people had LA as a non playoff team.

They had a very good season (for a rebuilding team loaded with prospects) and they took Edmonton to 7 games. They had a great year!

- spatso

Most people won't take Edmonton in the next series, LA and Edmonton are 2 teams that aren't very good.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 16 @ 9:28 AM ET
If you don't mind please refresh your page and let me know because it's showing deleted for me?
- Cush29

I checked before I seen The post that you re-deleted it, so i'm betting it's gone.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 16 @ 9:29 AM ET
If you don't mind please refresh your page and let me know because it's showing deleted for me?
- Cush29

In fact I woke up at about 5 am, that's when I looked.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
Most people won't take Edmonton in the next series, LA and Edmonton are 2 teams that aren't very good.
- bobbyisno1


Calgary should be heavy favorites I agree.

And Dallas was an underrated team coming into the playoffs. They really came close.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
In fact I woke up at about 5 am, that's when I looked.
- bobbyisno1


Thanks for confirming.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 9:31 AM ET
Most people had LA as a non playoff team.

They had a very good season (for a rebuilding team loaded with prospects) and they took Edmonton to 7 games. They had a great year!

- spatso


its interesting to see NYR and LA both do down the rebuild/retool road, and be out of it for 3/4 seasons, and then back to playoff action with teams trending up

Sens are going on 5 seasons of missed playoffs and I cant see them sniffing the playoffs next season either. not great, Bob




Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 16 @ 9:31 AM ET
Calgary should be heavy favorites I agree.

And Dallas was an underrated team coming into the playoffs. They really came close.

- Scabeh


If not for their goalie they get curb stomped in that series - something you can relate to no doubt after last year.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 16 @ 9:34 AM ET
If not for their goalie they get curb stomped in that series - something you can relate to no doubt after last year.

- Cush29


Oettinger really impressed me. Dallas is in good hands moving forward.

And having a great goaltender is always a good idea.


God I miss Price.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 16 @ 9:34 AM ET
I thought this Leafs team was, without question, the best one since the Dubas/Matthews era began.

Honestly, if it was possible, I'd roll with the exact same roster next year feeling very confident they could have a better result.

Unfortunately, with the Rielly raise, the RFAs and the UFA's due for a raise as well it'll be close to impossible to keep everyone.

Of course getting rid of Mrazek would help alot but how big of a pick will they have to lose just to do that?

And you suggested in another post Nylander might be the one to go. While I'll agree it feels like he's the most likely of the "big 4" to be moved, I don't think it's the right move because he's the biggest bargain of the bunch and I'm sticking to my guns saying he keeps scoring very big goals for the Leafs in the playoffs.

- Scabeh

This is one of the deepest, more well rounded teams of the Dubas era for sure.....heck the best in decades (which isnt saying much considering this franchise hasnt had good teams for so long).
This team did show some fight and did show that they dont always give up and can come back. But it wasnt on consistent basis. They had several no show periods, which you cant do in the playoffs, specially for a team that touted how much they had changed, how things were gonna be different, how much they had to prove and how badly the franchise needed a series win.
The problem is they are really tight up against the cap. They need to bring back Laboushe, and Gio and get rid of Mrazek.
I dont think Kase, and Spezza will be back..unless they sign league minimum. Blackwell may be back. Mik will probably go for a bigger payday elsewhere.
The big question is Campbell, how do you access him. Is he a goalie that can take you over the hump, win a cup or even just go on a deep playoff run? If so, how much do you pay him? If not, who is that could be available?
Keep the core 4 together unless they believe someone within the organization can replace the scoring. But I havent seen anyone like that.
I really like Kerfoot and what he brings...but could he be replaced internally? Dunno. But his cap, although justified for what he does, may be too rich for the leafs.
The leafs have missed several opportunities the past several years. Its too bad.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 16 @ 9:35 AM ET
Trolls complaining about being banned by mods for trolling.

They really aren’t that smart, are they. 🤷🏼‍♂️


bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 16 @ 9:39 AM ET
Calgary should be heavy favorites I agree.

And Dallas was an underrated team coming into the playoffs. They really came close.

- Scabeh

I also think Colorado will be a heavy favorite. I still have my 14 and 15 points in my pool. I'm smelling 29 points here.
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