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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
It is mine as well.

And Bergeron will stay in Boston or retire.

- Scabeh


oh I know.

but what a hired gun he would be..like Hossa
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
That could be a solid option.
- Woderwick


seriously, I have about 1 more disappointing season left in me
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
Just watched Thompson lose his stick in the 1st period, scrum, puck all around out front. Normally you’d see the butterfly without a stick. Nope…he preferred to play upright.
- Woderwick


Bold strategy, I'd totally drop to Bfly in that situation if the puck is in close to the net.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

May 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
seriously, I have about 1 more disappointing season left in me

- senstroll

Keep watching but stop caring. It doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things. People get too emotionally invested into a friggin game. These over paid a-holes don’t deserve a bit of loyalty. Yet people bow to them just because they wear a uniform of the team your dads most likely cheered for and tainted your thinking towards. Just chill and enjoy. Or walk away like you said.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
oh I know.

but what a hired gun he would be..like Hossa

- senstroll

Getting Bergeron would be huge.

Maybe that's the "Kawhi" moment?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
MAF has more experience in big games, but who knows if the result would have been different.. Campbell was not the reason they lost..
All things considered, the difference was Tampa's 4th line was better and their bottom 6 in game 7 was better..

None of the series is on Campbell.. The challenge for Dubas is to try and find the right bottom 6 mix..

I hope Blackwell stays, Kampf has been better than expected.. Engvall and Mikheyev played well but didn't produce anything outside of the 2 EN goals..

The Leafs need a reliable 4th line.. Hoping that can be figured out this offseason

- PatC80


Fleury was literally benched when Minnesota's season was on the line.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
Keep watching but stop caring. It doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things. People get too emotionally invested into a friggin game. These over paid a-holes don’t deserve a bit of loyalty. Yet people bow to them just because they wear a uniform of the team your dads most likely cheered for and tainted your thinking towards. Just chill and enjoy. Or walk away like you said.
- TurdFergeson


I dont agree with that part, im mean I gripe about the cap hits, cuz that affects the team they can put on the ice, but I dont care what actual $$ they get, and I dont think they are bumholes for not winning. im not into calling them names and stuff like that

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 11:58 AM ET
Fleury was literally benched when Minnesota's season was on the line.
- joel878



There were some reports that the Leafs were trying to get a deal done with the Hawks for MAF.. Just saying, even if Fleury was a Leaf, the result could have likely been the same.. I don't blame the series loss on Campbell..

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 16 @ 11:59 AM ET
Bold strategy, I'd totally drop to Bfly in that situation if the puck is in close to the net.
- Cush29

Right? He stood his ground. It worked.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
There were some reports that the Leafs were trying to get a deal done with the Hawks for MAF.. Just saying, even if Fleury was a Leaf, the result could have likely been the same.. I don't blame the series loss on Campbell..
- PatC80


Not even a little bit. Campbell stood on his head for 1.6 million.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
Getting Bergeron would be huge.

Maybe that's the "Kawhi" moment?

- PatC80

Why not Malkin?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
Why not Malkin?
- Canada Cup


why not both?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Not even a little bit. Campbell stood on his head for 1.6 million.
- joel878



The series came down to Tampa's 4th line being better and officiating.. Some really, really weak calls against the Leafs.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Why not Malkin?
- Canada Cup



him too, but I think he's staying in Pittsburgh
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Getting Bergeron would be huge.

Maybe that's the "Kawhi" moment?

- PatC80

They keep this up, they may need to change their name to the Kensington Gardens Leafs.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 12:05 PM ET
After reflection of the Leafs series, all the disappointment and resentment, I've looked at what is needed for the Leafs to succeed.

Players who can go: Kaše, Simmonds, Holl, Mrázek.

Players who will probably leave in free agency: Mikheyev

Players who might leave via free agency: Campbell, Giordano

What needs to happen? Moving out an injury prone Jake Muzzin. Replace Campbell by trading for an underrated goaltender: Alexandar Georgiev from the Rangers. Cheaper and younger.

Make a significant trade: Nylander and Sandin to Arizona. In return: Jakob Chychrun and Lawson Crouse. A young stud defenseman that could someday win a Norris Trophy. A power Left Winger to play with Taveras, with Crouse. A modest cap savings, but a huge upside.

Sign Spezza at the minimum, let him get his 1000 points, have him retire with dignity and a coaching position in the organization.

Leafs also need to address the third and fourth line with upgrades. Blackwell is good, and David Kämpf is found money. Kerfoot should be kept. It will be up to Dubas to backfill the roster. Timothy Liljegren needs to play full time. Sign Giordano to mentor LilJgren, offer him a 2 year 5.75 total package.

Backup goaltending? Källgren may be good enough to fill the position. Watch for a bargain.

The constants: The top line, Rielly, Lyubushkin, Brodie, Tavares.

This team isn't that far off from being tops in the Atlantic, once Florida hits the Cap wall and has to move assets, after this year. A big trade, a modest trade and cap savings could make this team better.

Thoughts?........
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 16 @ 12:05 PM ET
him too, but I think he's staying in Pittsburgh
- PatC80


he is but...what if

Willy, Kerf and Mik out, 12 mil

Bergeron and Malkin sign cheap deals with the leafs to play for their home town teams they always dreamed of.


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
I think the PP design is as much of an issue as those on the PP. They are way too reliant on the pretty back door play or 'bumper pass for a snipe" on the PP which works in the regular season but as we know definitely does not in the playoffs.

So you need a real threat from the point, a guy with an absolute bomb who can either let it howl and you look for a goal on him beating the goalie or a tip or a rebound and if teams have to respect that shot it opens up the other plays much more.

Lot of folks here saying GIO on PP1 made it look much better than Reilly (I agree) because of that threat but the guy came over trade deadline and didn't see PP1 time until way late in the year/playoffs so not nearly enough time for others to adapt their pp game.

I guess we will see how it plays out but Reilly at the point on PP1 is pretty m'eh the majority of the time.

- Cush29


You need a guy who can 1 time a pass to Matthews like Kuch does for Stammer.

Kuch has a lethal shot and a more lethal pass IMO
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
Frank me…Thompson is good, like really good.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
he is but...what if

Willy, Kerf and Mik out, 12 mil

Bergeron and Malkin sign cheap deals with the leafs to play for their home town teams they always dreamed of.

- senstroll



Yeah, for sure.. Growing up in Magnitogorsk, Russia, Malkin always dreamed of being a Maple Leaf
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
After reflection of the Leafs series, all the disappointment and resentment, I've looked at what is needed for the Leafs to succeed.

Players who can go: Kaše, Simmonds, Holl, Mrázek.

Players who will probably leave in free agency: Mikheyev

Players who might leave via free agency: Campbell, Giordano

What needs to happen? Moving out an injury prone Jake Muzzin. Replace Campbell by trading for an underrated goaltender: Alexandar Georgiev from the Rangers. Cheaper and younger.

Make a significant trade: Nylander and Sandin to Arizona. In return: Jakob Chychrun and Lawson Crouse. A young stud defenseman that could someday win a Norris Trophy. A power Left Winger to play with Taveras, with Crouse. A modest cap savings, but a huge upside.

Sign Spezza at the minimum, let him get his 1000 points, have him retire with dignity and a coaching position in the organization.

Leafs also need to address the third and fourth line with upgrades. Blackwell is good, and David Kämpf is found money. Kerfoot should be kept. It will be up to Dubas to backfill the roster. Timothy Liljegren needs to play full time. Sign Giordano to mentor LilJgren, offer him a 2 year 5.75 total package.

Backup goaltending? Källgren may be good enough to fill the position. Watch for a bargain.

The constants: The top line, Rielly, Lyubushkin, Brodie, Tavares.

This team isn't that far off from being tops in the Atlantic, once Florida hits the Cap wall and has to move assets, after this year. A big trade, a modest trade and cap savings could make this team better.

Thoughts?........

- PrinceLH


Not sure about Lyubushkin, maybe as a 6-7-8 guy.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 16 @ 12:10 PM ET
Saw some Ehlers speculation on this thread. Never heard his name being floated by the Jets.

But, the Jets have floated the name of Pierre Luc Dubois. Big, physical, plays strong defense, He is an RFA and likely looking for money in the $8.5m range.

Wonder if there might be an off-ice or other issue? It just does not make a lot of sense for a team like Winnipeg to move a player of this quality.

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

May 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Not sure about Lyubushkin, maybe as a 6-7-8 guy.
- Garnie

That’s the part you have an issue with??
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 16 @ 12:16 PM ET
I think the PP design is as much of an issue as those on the PP. They are way too reliant on the pretty back door play or 'bumper pass for a snipe" on the PP which works in the regular season but as we know definitely does not in the playoffs.

So you need a real threat from the point, a guy with an absolute bomb who can either let it howl and you look for a goal on him beating the goalie or a tip or a rebound and if teams have to respect that shot it opens up the other plays much more.

Lot of folks here saying GIO on PP1 made it look much better than Reilly (I agree) because of that threat but the guy came over trade deadline and didn't see PP1 time until way late in the year/playoffs so not nearly enough time for others to adapt their pp game.

I guess we will see how it plays out but Reilly at the point on PP1 is pretty m'eh the majority of the time.

- Cush29



Look no further than Ducks... Same peeps.. different asst coach... from a PP worse than even OHL to 14th OA in 1 yr...

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 16 @ 12:16 PM ET
Saw some Ehlers speculation on this thread. Never heard his name being floated by the Jets.

But, the Jets have floated the name of Pierre Luc Dubois. Big, physical, plays strong defense, He is an RFA and likely looking for money in the $8.5m range.

Wonder if there might be an off-ice or other issue? It just does not make a lot of sense for a team like Winnipeg to move a player of this quality.

- spatso

Not a fan of Dubois for some reason.
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