“[Being No. 1 overall] is definitely really important to me. I think based on my work and my career, I deserve to be the first overall pick,” said Wright. "I deserve to have that honour. I believe that I am the best player in this draft and that I should be taken first overall.”
Remember that Caps game that 4 or 5 OT’s that Gary Thorne and Bill Clement announced in for ESPN, back before they went to NBC? It was gold! It was so long, hot, late, and tiring, that Clement took of his jacket, then his tie, wrapped his tie around his head, then his shirt. Unscripted fun! He was admonished for that. ESPN’s move to stamp out fun and move left had already started. All this nonsense is of course, based on diversity.
Why Gary Thorne et al is left out of these broadcasts is beyond stupid.
Before the lefties get their panties in a bunch, I’m not saying we shouldn’t have women in the booth, I don’t care about gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. I’m all for inclusion, but it must be based on merit and ability, not some artificial, forced decision.
The broadcasts have, as most poster’s have said, have been awful. Most of the guys from NBC last year were pretty good.
Most of the time I have the sound off because I am also watching something else. So I count myself lucky lol - MBFlyerfan
We were watching and my wife was not enjoying the female hockey announcer either.. not powerful enough a delivery amongst other things she disliked. There have to be other women who are more qualified and know the game
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May 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
I understand this type of complaint to a point. Goulbourne was a bad pick regardless of where he was taken. But every team passed on Verhaeghe twice and the majority three times. And it was Toronto who picked him.
I'll rip the Flyers all day for who they picked at that spot. But I can't rip them for who they didn't pick after the 2nd round when every other team made the same decision. It's all luck at that point IMO. - MBFlyerfan
You're right, there is a huge luck component... but a team's draft philosophy and strategy comes into play as well.
Taking somebody like Tyrell Goulbourne in the 3rd is tantamount to taking your lottery ticket and shredding it. If it only happened the once, then fine.... but this was a team that was constantly burning picks on antiquated toughness (Mathers, Klotz, Rinaldo, Clackson, Triston Grant, Beaulieu, etc).
They had no idea where the game was heading. One could argue that they still don't.
I do miss Gary Thorne. I believe the woman doing the play by play was Leah Hextall. It takes some getting used to. - hockeylover
Agreed. I thought her knowledge of calling the game was fine, but her voice was rough to listen to for the entire game. Her partner Dominik Moore wasn't much better. Wish the Dallas team was chosen to help ESPN or TNT as Daryl Reaugh is fantastic.
Remember that Caps game that 4 or 5 OT’s that Gary Thorne and Bill Clement announced in for ESPN, back before they went to NBC? It was gold! It was so long, hot, late, and tiring, that Clement took of his jacket, then his tie, wrapped his tie around his head, then his shirt. Unscripted fun! He was admonished for that. ESPN’s move to stamp out fun and move left had already started. All this nonsense is of course, based on diversity.
Why Gary Thorne et al is left out of these broadcasts is beyond stupid.
Before the lefties get their panties in a bunch, I’m not saying we shouldn’t have women in the booth, I don’t care about gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. I’m all for inclusion, but it must be based on merit and ability, not some artificial, forced decision.
The broadcasts have, as most poster’s have said, have been awful. Most of the guys from NBC last year were pretty good. - Hokeeguy9
Your pov (as bolded above) would attain the smidgen of believability it so plaintively hankers for if you did not equate diversity with incompetence, as you repeatedly do above.
It's possible the woman announcer is inexperienced, as is the case with anyone beginning a new role. If so, she should be seen as an inexperienced announcer not an inexperienced female announcer.
If after a period of experience, she continues to be bad, then she is a bad announcer not a bad female announcer.
Now sir, pardon me while I pick up my panties and complete my ablutions
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May 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
I know everybody is hoping for a flashy forward, but I'd be very happy if Jiricek was available at #5.
He's got a lot of the qualities that the Flyers sorely lack on the back end (smarts and sense, transition ability, superior defensive positioning and stick, RH, size). He's already holding his own against pro players.
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May 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
I know everybody is hoping for a flashy forward, but I'd be very happy if Jiricek was available at #5.
He's got a lot of the qualities that the Flyers sorely lack on the back end (smarts and sense, transition ability, superior defensive positioning and stick, RH, size). He's already holding his own against pro players.
- Tomahawk
funny, I read this and first thought is someone gets moved for what they need on the O side. I know the Flyers are thin on D but I can see them moving a Provy to fill other spots thinking the would have enough D Options
Your pov (as bolded above) would attain the smidgen of believability it so plaintively hankers for if you did not equate diversity with incompetence, as you repeatedly do above.
It's possible the woman announcer is inexperienced, as is the case with anyone beginning a new role. If so, she should be seen as an inexperienced announcer not an inexperienced female announcer.
If after a period of experience, she continues to be bad, then she is a bad announcer not a bad female announcer.
Now sir, pardon me while I pick up my panties and complete my ablutions - PT21
You actually made his case for him. The poster certainly did not equate diversity with incompetence.
I know everybody is hoping for a flashy forward, but I'd be very happy if Jiricek was available at #5.
He's got a lot of the qualities that the Flyers sorely lack on the back end (smarts and sense, transition ability, superior defensive positioning and stick, RH, size). He's already holding his own against pro players.
- Tomahawk
I agree, this is the guy i want. Wondering if seattle and jersey dont take a Dman, in the draft. Either way, pick #5 is a good pick. The draft experts say the 1st tier of players is the top 5/6 picks. Then drops a bit after
Your pov (as bolded above) would attain the smidgen of believability it so plaintively hankers for if you did not equate diversity with incompetence, as you repeatedly do above.
It's possible the woman announcer is inexperienced, as is the case with anyone beginning a new role. If so, she should be seen as an inexperienced announcer not an inexperienced female announcer.
If after a period of experience, she continues to be bad, then she is a bad announcer not a bad female announcer.
Now sir, pardon me while I pick up my panties and complete my ablutions - PT21
My point being they put all these people in positions based on diversity, not merit. If she was doing an excellent job in in Majotlr Junior hockey, then moved up the line due to her skills, she’d be welcomed with open arms, but I’ll bet the farm she didn’t, and the decision was based on her being female.
All decisions should be based on merit and ability, nothing more.
My point being they put all these people in positions based on diversity, not merit. If she was doing an excellent job in in Majotlr Junior hockey, then moved up the line due to her skills, she’d be welcomed with open arms, but I’ll bet the farm she didn’t, and the decision was based on her being female.
All decisions should be based on merit and ability, nothing more.
That’s the point, nothing more. - Hokeeguy9
It’s just how it is in today’s society.
Young people like to blame us older folks for a lot, but it’s a little funny seeing them so willingly pay for this inflation, yet be focused on superficial nonsense.
You're right, there is a huge luck component... but a team's draft philosophy and strategy comes into play as well.
Taking somebody like Tyrell Goulbourne in the 3rd is tantamount to taking your lottery ticket and shredding it. If it only happened the once, then fine.... but this was a team that was constantly burning picks on antiquated toughness (Mathers, Klotz, Rinaldo, Clackson, Triston Grant, Beaulieu, etc).
They had no idea where the game was heading. One could argue that they still don't. - Tomahawk
Rinaldo was a 6th round pick; near the end of the 6th at that. He played the most games in the NHL out of all but one of the final 24 picks (only Jason Demers played more). Also he played 374 career games in a draft were the average NHL career draft-wide was 308 games. Whether you like Rinaldo or not, it wasn't bad pick for that range of the daft.
Mathers was pick 207 in a 211 pick draft. Yes, it would have nice in hindsight to take Ondrej Palat (pick 208) instead but you could say that for every other team in the NHL and even for Tampa passing on him until the tail end of the draft.
Klotz was a bad pick. Taken too early and had a low ceiling. Ditto Goulbourne. Although they figured he had a 50-50 chance of making it to the NHL as a 4th liner, it was too early to take him where he was taken and it was kind of a last-second decision at the table. No argument from me. Both were mistake picks where they were taken.
Trison Grant.... are we really going to go all the way to the 9th round (pick 286) of 2004 for examples? It was hardly unusual in those days for teams to grab a big-framed tough guy type late in the draft. And, yes, it was another Palat kind of hindsight situation because Detroit drafted Jannik Hansen out the Danish league with pick 287 and he ended up having a long-term NHL career. But I have hard time saying woulda-coulda-shoulda that late in a draft.
Beaulieu and Clackson.... again going way back here, 17 years ago. Beaulieu wasn't really an enforcer type as a pro, but Ryan Reaves went in the same round as he did. With Clackson, the genetics probably played into it a bit, because his dad was a terror to fight in the WHA and NHL. He had a couple fights with Stewy that were legendary.
Remember that Caps game that 4 or 5 OT’s that Gary Thorne and Bill Clement announced in for ESPN, back before they went to NBC? It was gold! It was so long, hot, late, and tiring, that Clement took of his jacket, then his tie, wrapped his tie around his head, then his shirt. Unscripted fun! He was admonished for that. ESPN’s move to stamp out fun and move left had already started. All this nonsense is of course, based on diversity.
Why Gary Thorne et al is left out of these broadcasts is beyond stupid.
Before the lefties get their panties in a bunch, I’m not saying we shouldn’t have women in the booth, I don’t care about gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. I’m all for inclusion, but it must be based on merit and ability, not some artificial, forced decision.
The broadcasts have, as most poster’s have said, have been awful. Most of the guys from NBC last year were pretty good. - Hokeeguy9
Why don't you take your political BS back to Parler?
Are we really going to go out of our way to defend this team? Specifically the development, scouting, management, and advisor positions that operate in a country club atmosphere?
Nobody believes it anymore. People aren’t so gullible.
Perhaps holding them to some accountability with the same eagerness, or daring to speak more about the clear failures of these men would help add some credibility.
Rinaldo was a 6th round pick; near the end of the 6th at that. He played the most games in the NHL out of all but one of the final 24 picks (only Jason Demers played more). Also he played 374 career games in a draft were the average NHL career draft-wide was 308 games. Whether you like Rinaldo or not, it wasn't bad pick for that range of the daft.
Mathers was pick 207 in a 211 pick draft. Yes, it would have nice in hindsight to take Ondrej Palat (pick 208) instead but you could say that for every other team in the NHL and even for Tampa passing on him until the tail end of the draft.
Klotz was a bad pick. Taken too early and had a low ceiling. Ditto Goulbourne. Although they figured he had a 50-50 chance of making it to the NHL as a 4th liner, it was too early to take him where he was taken and it was kind of a last-second decision at the table. No argument from me. Both were mistake picks where they were taken.
Trison Grant.... are we really going to go all the way to the 9th round (pick 286) of 2004 for examples? It was hardly unusual in those days for teams to grab a big-framed tough guy type late in the draft. And, yes, it was another Palat kind of hindsight situation because Detroit drafted Jannik Hansen out the Danish league with pick 287 and he ended up having a long-term NHL career. But I have hard time saying woulda-coulda-shoulda that late in a draft.
Beaulieu and Clackson.... again going way back here, 17 years ago. Beaulieu wasn't really an enforcer type as a pro, but Ryan Reaves went in the same round as he did. With Clackson, the genetics probably played into it a bit, because his dad was a terror to fight in the WHA and NHL. He had a couple fights with Stewy that were legendary. - bmeltzer
What other teams do doesn't matter or shouldn't be part of the conversation imo.
My thing is in rd 5-7 why not shoot for the highest ceiling guy? ones who have dropped. Ones who have talent though also have red flags so to speak. Flyers rarely if ever do that. They take a slug way more times than not.
Going back a ways. Jesper "the pit bull" Peterson taken in the 7th rd. The flyer themselves (i believe) said he isnt and NHl player or something to that effect. yet drafted him.
What other teams do doesn't matter or shouldn't be part of the conversation imo.
My thing is in rd 5-7 why not shoot for the highest ceiling guy? ones who have dropped. Ones who have talent though also have red flags so to speak. Flyers rarely if ever do that. They take a slug way more times than not.
Going back a ways. Jesper "the pit bull" Peterson taken in the 7th rd. The flyer themselves (i believe) said he isnt and NHl player or something to that effect. yet drafted him. - hello it's me 2050
Defending such moves would have more merit, had the Flyers not just clearly overpaid to acquire but also extend Rasmus Ristolainen. Coveting such a player, which are Fletcher’s own words I believe is a very easy recent example of the continued antiquated views this team holds.
I loved the days where this team built its identity on rough hockey. That is not the game today, and the team continues to show its failure in progression toward a modern, successful NHL team time after time.
They fully believe they can primarily use FA, or trades to build a contender in 2022. Retool after retool. Who buys this poop anymore?
