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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
Is it really though? Imo it's as simple as he didnt want to be here ie didnt like the pressure and his usage as a defensive pivot. I think it's unanimous we wanted to keep him, but he was a UFA so largely his choice where he wants to go.
- apex123


Bergevin said he did not want to give him the 500 000 $ difference he had from LA. What's done is done, but that seems very stupid when you see all the money mtl is spending on dead weight elsewhere.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 12:56 PM ET
Bergevin said he did not want to give him the 500 000 $ difference he had from LA. What's done is done, but that seems very stupid when you see all the money mtl is spending on dead weight elsewhere.
- deadpoulet

like I heard on RDS yesterday, didn't want to give him 6.5, they offered 6 BUT they gave Hoffman 4.5M/yr
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
they will be fore sure with HuGo, Hughes knows the Q well.
- Symba007



yup, and from the looks of it they're going to build a proper recruitment and development team, Molson shouldn't mind investing a bit more if he wants to bring in more quality players and win.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
I’ve had enough of the “Montreal needs players from Québec” narrative.



Feisty K.


I like it!

- pete26

She's absolutely right ... enough with this BS.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 11 @ 12:59 PM ET
like I heard on RDS yesterday, didn't want to give him 6.5, they offered 6 BUT they gave Hoffman 4.5M/yr
- Symba007


That's where I'm coming from. +, KK left after that and DD got kicked out. Danault wanted to play on the pp. Maybe he was right after all. Anyway.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 12:59 PM ET
She's absolutely right ... enough with this BS.
- Garfield512


they do need players from Quebec, but it should make sense, drafting Quebecers with less talent doesn't. it isn't BS if you're being logical about it.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
like I heard on RDS yesterday, didn't want to give him 6.5, they offered 6 BUT they gave Hoffman 4.5M/yr
- Symba007

No wonder he got canned ... Geoff Molson is not stupid.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
they do need players from Quebec, but it should make sense, drafting Quebecers with less talent doesn't. it isn't BS if you're being logical about it.
- Pat1993

It's nice to have but not a necessity, people want to cheer for a championship team not Ti-Cul Tremblay from Alma. There's the LHJMQ for that.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 1:11 PM ET
It's nice to have but not a necessity, people want to cheer for a championship team not Ti-Cul Tremblay from Alma. There's the LJMHQ for that.
- Garfield512


I think you're missing the point, but ok, cool.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 11 @ 1:15 PM ET
well, you like it because you agree...
- Pat1993



I wouldn't say that.

I'm not for acquiring them for the sake of having them, (Leblanc, Drouin, etc..)
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
funny how Bergevin would be blamed for all the bad moves, but in this case it was Danault's decision to leave...
- Pat1993

We weren't in the room where negotiations happened obviously, but based on Danault talking about how french players have even more pressure when talking about Drouin and saying he wants a more offensive role ie PP time and offensive zone starts, it sounded like he wanted out for sure imo.

Obviously it's not the first time Bergrvin would have (frank)ed up a negotiation, but I dont believe that's the case here. Regardless, I dont see the point in harping on it nowadays, obviously he looks even better than we thought in an offensive role and it sucks to have lost him, but poop happens. It wouldnt have made sense to have traded him that year either as they did have their cup finals run. I'm happy they'll be drafting Wright barring a catastrophe.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
Bergevin said he did not want to give him the 500 000 $ difference he had from LA. What's done is done, but that seems very stupid when you see all the money mtl is spending on dead weight elsewhere.
- deadpoulet

Source? If that's true, fair enough.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 1:19 PM ET
We weren't in the room where negotiations happened obviously, but based on Danault talking about how french players have even more pressure when talking about Drouin and saying he wants a more offensive role ie PP time and offensive zone starts, it sounded like he wanted out for sure imo.

Obviously it's not the first time Bergrvin would have (frank)ed up a negotiation, but I dont believe that's the case here. Regardless, I dont see the point in harping on it nowadays, obviously he looks even better than we thought in an offensive role and it sucks to have lost him, but poop happens. It wouldnt have made sense to have traded him that year either as they did have their cup finals run. I'm happy they'll be drafting Wright barring a catastrophe.

- apex123


yeah, I don't buy the pressure thing, he was doing a pretty damn good job during the playoffs despite all that "pressure". but you're right, we should move on, and hope that the new management will set their priorities straight and have the team improve without being stuck with more poopty contracts or losing more valuable players.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 11 @ 1:19 PM ET
I wouldn't say that.

I'm not for acquiring them for the sake of having them, (Leblanc, Drouin, etc..)

- pete26


I don't think Pat is advocating for that either. Just that if they can bring guys that can contribute from the Q, they should consider it.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
I wouldn't say that.

I'm not for acquiring them for the sake of having them, (Leblanc, Drouin, etc..)

- pete26



not "just for the sake of having them", no, there has to be purpose, aka talent lol.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 1:21 PM ET
I don't think Pat is advocating for that either. Just that if they can bring guys that can contribute from the Q, they should consider it.
- deadpoulet


voilà.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 11 @ 1:22 PM ET
Source? If that's true, fair enough.
- apex123

He said so himself (Bergevin) in public. Was probably on RDS one year ago, so sorry if I don't have the clip for you.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 11 @ 1:27 PM ET
He said so himself (Bergevin) in public. Was probably on RDS one year ago, so sorry if I don't have the clip for you.
- deadpoulet

I'll take your word for it, Bergevin was good at trades, but poop at negotiating and somehow even worse at drafting. It sucks, but luckily we'll be drafting Wright.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
#blessed
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
I'll take your word for it, Bergevin was good at trades, but poop at negotiating and somehow even worse at drafting. It sucks, but luckily we'll be drafting Wright.
- apex123



*insert kick's Timmins drawing*
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 11 @ 1:29 PM ET
I don't think Pat is advocating for that either. Just that if they can bring guys that can contribute from the Q, they should consider it.
- deadpoulet


Of course they should, if the talent is there, I agree.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 11 @ 1:32 PM ET
Of course they should, if the talent is there, I agree.
- pete26


That was Pat point.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 11 @ 1:40 PM ET
That was Pat point.
- deadpoulet

Are we all friends again or do I have to go get my brass knuckles?
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 11 @ 1:43 PM ET
That was Pat point.
- deadpoulet



Are you Pat's messenger chicken today?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 11 @ 1:46 PM ET
Are you Pat's messenger chicken today?
- pete26

pat taking deadpoulet for a walk

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