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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 12 @ 12:43 PM ET
7th all time in game winning goals
23rd all time in goals scored
most nhl games played

- homiedclown


He should get the NHL Longevity Award.
His 23 year avg was 52 pts....take out his last 5 years..58 pts.
Scored over 80 pts 2x.
Is that really a Hall of Famer?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
This. To say that Fred is not worthy of the Wall of Fame is just plain ignorant.
- RichardRoma

He had one great season. One

His reputation far exceeded his productivity

Never double digit rushing TD’s.

Never played in the playoffs

That being said he probably goes on the wall and I’m fine with it as it’s a stupid wall of fame
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

May 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
He had one great season. One

His reputation far exceeded his productivity

Never double digit rushing TD’s.

Never played in the playoffs

That being said he probably goes on the wall and I’m fine with it as it’s a stupid wall of fame

- sbroads24

I thought you said the Bills were playing the Ravens on Thanksgiving??
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
For those without a sub to the athletic

The 2022 NHL Draft ranking: Pronman’s top 29 prospects at the draft lottery
Corey Pronman
May 10, 2022


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3. Logan Cooley, C, USA U-18 (NTDP)

May. 4, 2004 | 5′ 10.25″ | 174 pounds

March 2022 Ranking: 3

Tier: Projected top of the lineup player

Skating: Above NHL average
Puck skills: Above NHL average
Hockey sense: Above NHL average
Compete: Above NHL average
Shot: Above NHL average

Background: Cooley has been the leading player in the 2004 age group for the USNTDP the last two years, although his pure production doesn’t blow you away. He made the USA world junior team as a 17-year-old in a significant role as their No. 2 center with power play time. He was a top forward at the U18 World Championships. He was a top player for the U18 team as a 16-year-old as well. He’s committed to the University of Minnesota.

Analysis: Cooley is a dynamic player. When he has the puck on his stick you instantly notice him because of his high-end speed, skill and offensive IQ. He can make highly creative dekes and passes at full speed. The pace of his game is why I think he will be a top NHL player. He takes pucks up the ice and to the net often. Cooley lacks size, but he plays hard. He can drive play at even strength while also having the vision and shot to be a power-play threat running a unit from the walls. He projects as a first-line forward; as a center, he would be a low-end first-line center in the NHL.

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- Leninthebuff



So devil's should pick Cooley awesome 👍
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
Besides having all the Bills single season receiving records before Diggs?
- sbroads24

At 1300 yards wow you're right he was the best ever
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
I thought you said the Bills were playing the Ravens on Thanksgiving??
- Hatboro_Swords

That was a schedule leak rumor from a Ravens beat writer.

Are they not now?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
He should get the NHL Longevity Award.
His 23 year avg was 52 pts....take out his last 5 years..58 pts.
Scored over 80 pts 2x.
Is that really a Hall of Famer?

- IonSabres

Wow only averaged 50 points for 23 years yeah he sucked

A lot of hot takes on here today
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
At 1300 yards wow you're right he was the best ever
- BeadyEyedDouche

Yes I said the best ever you got me

LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: magas are inbred mouthbreathers, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

May 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
That was a schedule leak rumor from a Ravens beat writer.

Are they not now?

- sbroads24


Jeez, first the Supreme Court, now football writers. What the heck pit of darkness is this country falling into?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
Jeez, first the Supreme Court, now football writers. What the heck pit of darkness is this country falling into?
- LandlordTom

BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
Yes I said the best ever you got me
- sbroads24

I don't even think Stefon Diggs is worthy of the Bills wall yet. 1300 yards is very good. But it's not even close to elite. Now, if you have 1300 yards receiving for like, 3-4, 5 years in a row, then I won't argue.

But Eric Moulds wasn't an all-time great. I don't even think Andre Reed was an all-time great.

Thurman Thomas was. Bruce Smith was. Jim Kelley for the K-gun offense alone is an all-time great (and he did QB a team to 4 Super Bowls).

People say Moulds didn't have anyone throwing him the ball who was particularly good. Well, Jackson didn't have the O-line that Thurman did, and he had an idiot head coach or two, and had to split time with CJ Spiller.

What Fred Jackson did with what he had, where he came from and his presence in the community, he absolutely should be on the Bills Wall of Fame.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
He had one great season. One

His reputation far exceeded his productivity

Never double digit rushing TD’s.

Never played in the playoffs

That being said he probably goes on the wall and I’m fine with it as it’s a stupid wall of fame

- sbroads24


I think that unless you get some talk of being HOF worthy you have no business having your jersey retired. We loved guys like Ray, Kyle Williams, and all of the other names that have been tossed around. They have no business having their jersey's retired. As it is we look like a minor league sports town because we have banners for winning our division and winning the President's Trophy (both of which scream that your team did nothing in the playoffs).
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
I don't even think Stefon Diggs is worthy of the Bills wall yet. 1300 yards is very good. But it's not even close to elite. Now, if you have 1300 yards receiving for like, 3-4, 5 years in a row, then I won't argue.

But Eric Moulds wasn't an all-time great. I don't even think Andre Reed was an all-time great.

Thurman Thomas was. Bruce Smith was. Jim Kelley for the K-gun offense alone is an all-time great (and he did QB a team to 4 Super Bowls).

People say Moulds didn't have anyone throwing him the ball who was particularly good. Well, Jackson didn't have the O-line that Thurman did, and he had an idiot head coach or two, and had to split time with CJ Spiller.

What Fred Jackson did with what he had, where he came from and his presence in the community, he absolutely should be on the Bills Wall of Fame.

- BeadyEyedDouche

If that’s the reason, I’m fine with it.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
I think that unless you get some talk of being HOF worthy you have no business having your jersey retired. We loved guys like Ray, Kyle Williams, and all of the other names that have been tossed around. They have no business having their jersey's retired. As it is we look like a minor league sports town because we have banners for winning our division and winning the President's Trophy (both of which scream that your team did nothing in the playoffs).
- Slump Buster

Agreed
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
I think that unless you get some talk of being HOF worthy you have no business having your jersey retired. We loved guys like Ray, Kyle Williams, and all of the other names that have been tossed around. They have no business having their jersey's retired. As it is we look like a minor league sports town because we have banners for winning our division and winning the President's Trophy (both of which scream that your team did nothing in the playoffs).
- Slump Buster


Just to be clear - being on the wall doesn't mean the number is retired. It's just their name on the stadium
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 12 @ 1:00 PM ET
Just to be clear - being on the wall doesn't mean the number is retired. It's just their name on the stadium
- Hank Balling


That's a good point, and I've also thought that (putting names up) was silly. Either be one of the greats and get your number retired or just be a guy that will never have to buy another drink in this town. There is no shame in the latter.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
That's a good point, and I've also thought that (putting names up) was silly. Either be one of the greats and get your number retired or just be a guy that will never have to buy another drink in this town. There is no shame in the latter.
- Slump Buster


It's a weird middle ground. If the Sabres had it then I think Ryan Miller would be on it
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
That's a good point, and I've also thought that (putting names up) was silly. Either be one of the greats and get your number retired or just be a guy that will never have to buy another drink in this town. There is no shame in the latter.
- Slump Buster


It's a weird middle ground. If the Sabres had it then I think Ryan Miller would be on it
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
It's a weird middle ground. If the Sabres had it then I think Ryan Miller would be on it
- Hank Balling


I think it's the Montreal Canadiens that "honor" certain players by putting their numbers in the rafters, but not officially retiring them.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
Amerks game on Sunday is almost sold out. That’s pretty cool! Besides the RJ games this year. This might be my most heavily stranded hockey game I’ve been to all year lol
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

May 12 @ 1:33 PM ET
Add Lucic as well.
- SABRES 89

Nice call
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

May 12 @ 1:35 PM ET
Like Ruttu and didn't know that. He's solid defensively and Gubs can bring the Hammer. I could deal with it.
- Buff36

For once we agree.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 12 @ 1:36 PM ET
At 1300 yards wow you're right he was the best ever
- BeadyEyedDouche

not saying it helps or hurts him, but look at the QBs that Moulds had throwing to him. he had some turds and bledsoe
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 12 @ 1:39 PM ET


Is Marleau as good as Samson, though?
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

May 12 @ 1:41 PM ET
Is Marleau as good as Samson, though?
- Powerslave

Or, is Marleau as good as Patrick Kane?
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