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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 10 @ 9:38 PM ET
yet fido has been saying all this time we need to build from the center position... I'm confused.
- Pat1993

yes, you build by the center, but you take the best player available. period. if he's a center good, if he's not, you'll trade from one. that's how they got Suzuki isn't it?
and Danault btw.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 10 @ 9:38 PM ET
The way I see it you build a team from back to front, start with the D's (we already have some good ones coming up) then you build the center line.

Fianally you fill the roster with wingers ... they're usually the easiest and cheapest ones to trade for (we have a ton of picks). Stud centers are almost impossible to trade for as other teams rarely want to let them go ... ask Bergevin ...

Just my 2 cents.

- Garfield512


I 100% agree.

We also have that extra little nugget of a first we can easily throw into a trade. Most likely a high teens pick. Drury may need to make splash too if they lose Tomorow, or eventually
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 10 @ 9:39 PM ET
Well that probably depends on who you're asking.

But I personally saw him as a guy who could become a point per game player.

- Scabeh


interesting. like you said if the offer was there the habs would need to at least consider it, because the answer isn't so clear cut, but I still think Lafrenière doesn't need the additional pressure there would be if they traded the #1 pick for him... I simply see this as becoming a very bad scenario all over again.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 10 @ 9:40 PM ET
I'm seriously considering dropping your boy from my keeper league.

- Scabeh

Again it’s the same with laf. These two don’t get any PP time that’s noteworthy. Regular season the first unit was so good the second unit never saw the ice, which they are on

If anything he is a bit injury prone. Nagging injuries all season
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 10 @ 9:40 PM ET
yes, you build by the center, but you take the best player available. period. if he's a center good, if he's not, you'll trade from one. that's how they got Suzuki isn't it?
and Danault btw.

- fidopro


sure, but if it isn't that obvious between 2 players, logically you should take the center.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

May 10 @ 9:42 PM ET
The way I see it you build a team from back to front, start with the D's (we already have some good ones coming up) then you build the center line.

Fianally you fill the roster with wingers ... they're usually the easiest and cheapest ones to trade for (we have a ton of picks). Stud centers are almost impossible to trade for as other teams rarely want to let them go ... ask Bergevin ...

Just my 2 cents.

- Garfield512

top 5 picks don't get traded in the NHL. Wright has size, three zone awareness, a plus shot and skates well. not a burner but neither is Laf.

Wright will be the better pro especially if the Habs let him stay another year in juniors. He has NHL qualities as rn but losing the year delayed his development a bit. Add in the pressure of being the #1 in montreal and it is better long term to not rush him.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 10 @ 9:42 PM ET
sure, but if it isn't that obvious between 2 players, logically you should take the center.
- Pat1993

yes

oh oh 2-2
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 10 @ 9:42 PM ET
Again it’s the same with laf. These two don’t get any PP time that’s noteworthy. Regular season the first unit was so good the second unit never saw the ice, which they are on

If anything he is a bit injury prone. Nagging injuries all season

- Slimtj100


Well as a Rangers fan, I'm not too worried he'll end up being a solid player for you guys.

Fantasy wise though, he's not as sexy until he does get some pp time.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 10 @ 9:43 PM ET
yes, but in this case I don't think it's close
- fidopro


yeah, doesn't seem obvious at all to me.

and besides, trading for centers as you're suggesting doesn't seem that easy to do...
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 10 @ 9:44 PM ET
nice shot
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 10 @ 9:45 PM ET
nice shot
- fidopro


Leafs are really good at that 4 on 4 thing.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

May 10 @ 9:46 PM ET
yeah, doesn't seem obvious at all to me.

and besides, trading for centers as you're suggesting doesn't seem that easy to do...

- Pat1993

true, but it's easier when you have quality prospects because you drafted the bpa.
anyway, we're just talking, won't happen. they'll draft Wright.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 10 @ 9:49 PM ET
Just like he did against the Habs last year Nylander is really stepping up, i dint get why so many TO fans don’t like him
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 10 @ 9:49 PM ET
true, but it's easier when you have quality prospects because you drafted the bpa.
anyway, we're just talking, won't happen. they'll draft Wright.

- fidopro



it's the wright thing to do...
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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May 10 @ 9:50 PM ET
it's the wright thing to do...
- Pat1993

probably yes
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 10 @ 9:50 PM ET
Just like he did against the Habs last year Nylander is really stepping up, i dint get why so many TO fans don’t like him
- Karine Hains


He's been, for years, their best playoffs performer.

I try to tell them Karine but they won't listen.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

May 10 @ 9:51 PM ET
Just like he did against the Habs last year Nylander is really stepping up, i dint get why so many TO fans don’t like him
- Karine Hains

no redass.

though, he drives the net consistently but he isn't out hitting people.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

May 10 @ 9:51 PM ET
true, but it's easier when you have quality prospects because you drafted the bpa.
anyway, we're just talking, won't happen. they'll draft Wright.

- fidopro

as they should. he is the best player in this draft.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 10 @ 9:52 PM ET
it's the wright thing to do...
- Pat1993


It is and if Lafrenière wasn’t a Quebecer this wouldn't even be suggested…that’s all that needs to be said on that matter.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 10 @ 9:53 PM ET
F the bolts.


I’m not saying go leafs.


I’m just sayin f the bolts..
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 10 @ 9:53 PM ET
It is and if Lafrenière wasn’t a Quebecer this wouldn't even be suggested…that’s all that needs to be said on that matter.
- Karine Hains


But he is a Quebecer.

And yes, it does matter.

I'll bring it out again but no one wanted to trade Galchenyuk for Huberdeau at the time either.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 10 @ 9:53 PM ET
It is and if Lafrenière wasn’t a Quebecer this wouldn't even be suggested…that’s all that needs to be said on that matter.
- Karine Hains


well, at least in this case he was actually projected to be a very good player, lots of talk about how MTL would've drafted him had they won the lottery... but yeah the rumors are there because of that as well for sure.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 10 @ 9:54 PM ET
And we’re all tied up! Go Bolts! (For this round only lol)
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 10 @ 9:54 PM ET
And we’re all tied up! Go Bolts! (For this round only lol)
- Karine Hains



Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 10 @ 9:56 PM ET
well, at least in this case he was actually projected to be a very good player, lots of talk about how MTL would've drafted him had they won the lottery... but yeah the rumors are there because of that as well for sure.
- Pat1993


Thing is people wanted Drouin they got him in a trade and that didn’t quite work out did it? Im like you, this is not something Lafrenière needs right now
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