I'm gonna do a shot every time Holl screws up tonight... Got a 26er here but hopefully I don't get too smashed as I have to work tomorrow...

well, if you haven't paid attention last 3 years, why bother now
- 21peter

I haven't paid attention to hockeybuzz, my good sir... The Leafs? I've been all up in their business...

That play is more on Kase who flew the zone instead of reading the situation and allowed a clean pick off by Tampa.

Holl is not a great defenseman, but so many in here want to blame him for everything wrong. He needs support from his forwards, too. The worst D-pairing we have is Rielly-Lyubushkin. Holl and Liljegren are largely interchangeable if they are going to get hammered on the back boards, because Holl can handle it better, but in the neutral zone or offensive zone, Lilly is better.

Would I rather see Lilly get the opportunity to grow his game? Sure, I would. He has a much higher ceiling. But they are playing to win now and if they think Holl is advantageous over Lilly, that's the call. They have a lot more footage and video and analysis than anyone here has.
- Monkeypunk

I think Bourne has it right: Holl’s mistakes are glaring and the things he does right are not as easy to see. Like any D, trade off the cost of the errors against the value of what he does well. In Keefe’s view, that balance means keeping him in. Most fixate on the errors.

https://mobile.twitter.co...&t=XnJSFEhXwhaMyK6PigidBw

I haven't paid attention to hockeybuzz, my good sir... The Leafs? I've been all up in their business...
- SofaKingBored

I wasn't aware there was a difference to those??

gotta rethink things carefully now...

I wasn't aware there was a difference to those??

gotta rethink things carefully now...
- 21peter

You may be right about all of this...

I'm gonna do a shot every time Holl screws up tonight... Got a 26er here but hopefully I don't get too smashed as I have to work tomorrow...
- SofaKingBored

See you Thursday.

For me? Not worth it... But there's been one or two dmen defended to the death here for entire seasons only to leave the Leafs and become used car salesmen...
- SofaKingBored

Lilli has way more upside. Holl is 30. Right now he is marginally more useful.

You may be right about all of this...
- SofaKingBored

thx


lmao

Get it done FFS.

CBC has the Leafs 'struggling' now they are asking Tavares to show up lol. It's a team effort get on it.

See you Thursday.
- Scabeh

See you next Tuesday?

Get it done FFS.

CBC has the Leafs 'struggling' now they are asking Tavares to show up lol. It's a team effort get on it.
- LordHumungous

CBC *barf* thank God Rosie Barton doesn't know what hockey is...

Did Skalapy get banned? He was going to tell me about the time he rode in an elevator with a Leafs player.... le sigh

Lilli has way more upside. Holl is 30. Right now he is marginally more useful.
- Canada Cup

No more excuses for this team.
Win the series.
- Fakepartofme

How does this argument hold up if Tampa beats the leafs in 7 and goes on to win their third cup in a row.

Then hopefully they work their way through it in game 6 and hopefully Keefe starts doing some small coaching things to try and work it in their favour.
- Monkeypunk

That is the dream.

Hoping Keefe (and family) have been watching a lot of tape on how the Cirelli line rolls with the top lines. Need to find some exploits/cheat codes.

Holl is the mashed potatoes that come with my steak dinner. They never make or break the success of my dinner. When we lose it's bc the steak isn't good enough.

Holl-Boosh-Lilly .....all potatoes.

Holls bad clearance was a part of a poopty shift by a few guys. So was Kase flying the zone ..and failing to cover Stamkos ...and so was Campbell failing to get a good look at that shot.

And Holl's poopty mistake didn't cause Muzzin to misplay the puck to the open man in front of the goal on the second goal.

Nor did it cause Rielly to make a poopty pinch on the 3rd goal ...or cause campbell to allow Moron to drop his pants on that goal.

Time to focus fellas ....we need the big boys to shine. Big game from 34 and 16 tonight.
- The Law

More like Holl is the soggy/undercooked frites with your steak that completely ruins the entire meal.

- 21peter

I’m telling Dozzer

How does this argument hold up if Tampa beats the leafs in 7 and goes on to win their third cup in a row.
- joel878

Not much a f'n fan can do about it if the players and their f'n useless coach can't, eh...??

I’m telling Dozzer
- Canada Cup

He just called me. He was yelling like always...
I get the sense he doesn't care for me to much...

I’m telling Dozzer
- Canada Cup

to bring us beers tonight!!!!


f'n yeah

That is the dream.

Hoping Keefe (and family) have been watching a lot of tape on how the Cirelli line rolls with the top lines. Need to find some exploits/cheat codes.
- mjones242

That is the dream...

A win tonight for the Leafs and they are in control of the series.. It should be a fun, but stressful game.. It doesn't matter who is in or what the lines are, all that matters is getting the W.

He just called me. He was yelling like always...
I get the sense he doesn't care for me to much...
- 21peter

not since you reneged on bring the beers.

I'd be yelling at you as well.

Did Skalapy get banned? He was going to tell me about the time he rode in an elevator with a Leafs player.... le sigh
- SofaKingBored

a mod didn't like his attitude towards them

I noticed something today. This is new to me in a playoff series..... there is nobody on the Leafs that I hate. Every team has a douchebag, dirty player, or pest. Even if a team doesn't have a Marchand, Wilson, or Perry, somebody usually steps up and fills that role in the post season. So far, in this series, I don't have a Leaf to focus my Bolt hate on. Nobody jumps out at me as hateable....yet.

Maybe it would have been Clifford, but after pasting Colton into the boards, he hasn't been seen again. Simmonds? Well, I kinda like the guy and always have. I'm glad he's not playing in Tampa (he doesn't move the needle much outside of sandpaper), but I don't have anything against him.

Most of the Leafs players are pretty clean, so who do I hate?

I noticed something today. This is new to me in a playoff series..... there is nobody on the Leafs that I hate. Every team has a douchebag, dirty player, or pest. Even if a team doesn't have a Marchand, Wilson, or Perry, somebody usually steps up and fills that role in the post season. So far, in this series, I don't have a Leaf to focus my Bolt hate on. Nobody jumps out at me as hateable....yet.

Maybe it would have been Clifford, but after pasting Colton into the boards, he hasn't been seen again. Simmonds? Well, I kinda like the guy and always have. I'm glad he's not playing in Tampa (he doesn't move the needle much outside of sandpaper), but I don't have anything against him.

Most of the Leafs players are pretty clean, so who do I hate?
- GalacticStone

I think this may be the prime reason why the Leafs can't win a playoff round. No easy to hate jerks.