It depends how they lose. I would be ok with them losing but throwing everything they had at Tampa. Last night, however, was a (frank)ing leafy joke.
- fifty__missions

Bets on Trotz being hired as the new coach if the Leafs are eliminated?

Bets on Trotz being hired as the new coach if the Leafs are eliminated?
- mjones242

If they lose to Tampa, I think 88 or 16 is getting traded..

If they lose to Tampa, I think 88 or 16 is getting traded..
- PatC80

Which one plays better in a Trotz system?

Counting tonight, in the Matthews era the Leafs' playoff W/L when:

Trailing the series: 7-3
Series is even: 7-10
Leading the series: 1-8

And a lot of those eight losses were awful, like tonight. Not hard to see the pattern.
- Down Goes Brown

https://twitter.com/DownG...&t=-81PgT2WQY2VyclL-Dr9Cg

That's (frank)ing bonkers.

Which one plays better in a Trotz system?
- mjones242

16 does..

88 would be benched

16 does..

88 would be benched
- PatC80

He'd be stapled to it, that's for sure.

Which one plays better in a Trotz system?
- mjones242

But would Trotz start Holl or no??

I’ve lost all respect for Lou

Bets on Trotz being hired as the new coach if the Leafs are eliminated?
- mjones242

If that's who the new GM wants...

If they lose to Tampa, I think 88 or 16 is getting traded..
- PatC80

If they lose and mail in their final effort, the whole management team and coaching staff are likely gone, and then new people are going to determine what this team needs. That determination will come with the flexibility cap space gives them coupled with the value they could potentially receive in any move. Marner gets you more space and assets but sets you back further than Nylander does.

I don't know. We need some moves from Keefe, too, in Tampa.

Not dumb moves like Kerfoot on the first line. He brings nothing that they need. I'm bashing him a little, but Kerfoot is soft and fast and a decent passer with an ok but not threatening shot. He rarely wins battles on the boards. What is he doing with Matthews and Marner that someone else couldn't do better?

If he has to, split up Matthews and Marner for a shift here and there. Get one of them away from the best defender. Make Cooper adjust. Do some actual coaching.

I’ve lost all respect for Lou
- mr.sir

It's pretty funny, right? The ONLY move Lou has done since joining the Islanders that was actually good, and he fires the guy after an injury and COVID riddled season? He's the only reason they made the playoffs in the past couple of years.

This was the type of stuff last night that killed the leafs. Weak calls that led to goals.

https://twitter.com/ticta...&t=jvbdH5wVHtmc0_5GzvrhHg

Pretty sure Tampa scored off of this one. Leafs didn’t deserve to win after their start but the refs controlling the flow of the game is a problem. Only time leafs got a call was when tb was already on the pp. Just a disaster all the way around.

But would Trotz start Holl or no??
- TurdFergeson

If he would, then (frank) Trotz.

If that's who the new GM wants...
- fifty__missions

Ohhh snap!

If he would, then (frank) Trotz.
- mjones242

We’ve already fired Trotz

If they lose and mail in their final effort, the whole management team and coaching staff are likely gone, and then new people are going to determine what this team needs. That determination will come with the flexibility cap space gives them coupled with the value they could potentially receive in any move. Marner gets you more space and assets but sets you back further than Nylander does.

I don't know. We need some moves from Keefe, too, in Tampa.

Not dumb moves like Kerfoot on the first line. He brings nothing that they need. I'm bashing him a little, but Kerfoot is soft and fast and a decent passer with an ok but not threatening shot. He rarely wins battles on the boards. What is he doing with Matthews and Marner that someone else couldn't do better?

If he has to, split up Matthews and Marner for a shift here and there. Get one of them away from the best defender. Make Cooper adjust. Do some actual coaching.
- Monkeypunk

I agree with this. I also don’t like that he doesn’t start Matthews. Last night they were down 1 before Matthews gets to see the ice.

If they lose and mail in their final effort, the whole management team and coaching staff are likely gone, and then new people are going to determine what this team needs. That determination will come with the flexibility cap space gives them coupled with the value they could potentially receive in any move. Marner gets you more space and assets but sets you back further than Nylander does.

I don't know. We need some moves from Keefe, too, in Tampa.

Not dumb moves like Kerfoot on the first line. He brings nothing that they need. I'm bashing him a little, but Kerfoot is soft and fast and a decent passer with an ok but not threatening shot. He rarely wins battles on the boards. What is he doing with Matthews and Marner that someone else couldn't do better?

If he has to, split up Matthews and Marner for a shift here and there. Get one of them away from the best defender. Make Cooper adjust. Do some actual coaching.
- Monkeypunk

If they lose Game 5, I could see that happening in Game 6.. Put Marner with Tavares for a game..

Nylander and Tavares are not clicking at all.. Tavares looks tired after every shift, I guess from battling along the boards and then having no one to pass the puck too becausem who knows where Nylander went?

I agree on the Kerfoot assessment, hasn't done much on the top line.. Put Bunting back up there with Matthews and Marner, move Kerfoot to the 4th line for Game 5.

Need Campbell to come up big again, like in game 1 and 3.

I would even try Clifford again on the 4th line.

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev-Tavares-Kase
Engvall-Kampf-Nylander
Clifford-Kerfoot-Spezza/Simmonds.

Rielly Lyubushkin
Muzzin Brodie
Gio Liljegren

If they come out flat and lose tomorrow night.. Then who knows what they'll do in Game 6..

Leafs in 6

It's pretty funny, right? The ONLY move Lou has done since joining the Islanders that was actually good, and he fires the guy after an injury and COVID riddled season? He's the only reason they made the playoffs in the past couple of years.
- Monkeypunk

Covid
New arena delay/ road start
Injuries (Pulock #1 dman)

As soon as they were healthy, they started playing well and finished 37-35-10 🤷

it would be nice if home ice was an.....advantage...this time

Bets on Trotz being hired as the new coach if the Leafs are eliminated?
- mjones242

I doubt it, unless Doobie doobie doo is fired too.

We’ve already fired Trotz
- Canada Cup

I know. Kadri got suspended for it.

I doubt it, unless Doobie doobie doo is fired too.
- Garnie

I expect a major shuffle if the Leafs don't get past the 1st round. Fair or not, I don't see Dubas surviving another early exit.

it would be nice if home ice was an.....advantage...this time
- senstroll

Leafs have two games where Keefe can keep Matthews away from Cirelli. That is a big advantage.

Leafs have two games where Keefe can keep Matthews away from Cirelli. That is a big advantage.
- Canada Cup

Did Cirelli get hurt last game?

If they lose Game 5, I could see that happening in Game 6.. Put Marner with Tavares for a game..

Nylander and Tavares are not clicking at all.. Tavares looks tired after every shift, I guess from battling along the boards and then having no one to pass the puck too becausem who knows where Nylander went?

I agree on the Kerfoot assessment, hasn't done much on the top line.. Put Bunting back up there with Matthews and Marner, move Kerfoot to the 4th line for Game 5.

Need Campbell to come up big again, like in game 1 and 3.

I would even try Clifford again on the 4th line.

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev-Tavares-Kase
Engvall-Kampf-Nylander
Clifford-Kerfoot-Spezza/Simmonds.

Rielly Lyubushkin
Muzzin Brodie
Gio Liljegren

If they come out flat and lose tomorrow night.. Then who knows what they'll do in Game 6..

Leafs in 6

- PatC80

Go Radical - Let JT dig the boards and feed 34 along with energizer bunny Kase retrieving pucks...

91/34/Kase
58/Kampf - why not he's been the 2nd best C all series for the Leafs / 16
Micky / Kerfoot / 88
Engvall / Spezz / whoever..