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Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:23 AM ET
Before we got him, it sounded like he was almost destined to sign here last year so maybe theres a decent chance at getting him for a good price. Rielly taking a bit of a discount probably helps a bit too. I'm not sure what's fair for him in a modern market but I think 3.5ish per year would be a good target for us.
- torfc23


His point production will push him up over 4 million I think… maybe even 5… we’ll see how bad he wants to stay a leaf I guess
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:26 AM ET
Yeah they are calling things evenly in that regard. However, it doesn't mean the refs can't improve and make better calls for both teams.
- Aaron_85


I think people are a bit hard on the refs tbh.

We see the game so much more clearly these days… watching it on tv is clearer than being another guy who’s actually on the ice.

I think the refs still do extremely well but I’d like to see a bigger use of the reviews tbh. Maybe even add a whistle that can be blown by a red who is off the ice and watching video?

I won’t pretend to know how to solve it but I do believe what’s seen on video is clearer than what’s seen on ice.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 7 @ 12:30 AM ET
I think people are a bit hard on the refs tbh.

We see the game so much more clearly these days… watching it on tv is clearer than being another guy who’s actually on the ice.

I think the refs still do extremely well but I’d like to see a bigger use of the reviews tbh. Maybe even add a whistle that can be blown by a red who is off the ice and watching video?

I won’t pretend to know how to solve it but I do believe what’s seen on video is clearer than what’s seen on ice.

- Dozzer

I'm willing to bet they see all the cross checks, they just don't call them. Otherwise Tampa would have 1 or 2 guys in the box all night long.
But then again if they called them maybe Tampa would stop.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 7 @ 12:31 AM ET
I know Warren made it happen. Can’t remember how he ensured it but he was the owner/GM of the team at the time and he made sure his son played for his team

Yup, I’m a lucky guy….had him in the family and… a big and Lol…myself and Andy McDonald were born 5 days apart and grew up together. I played goalie in his driveway after school all the time since we were around the corner from each other. I won’t pretend I was a dominant hockey player because I wasn’t.. more baseball and primarily a musician.

Which is the cool part… after Andy won the cup with the Ducks he got me and my band at the time to play his bring the cup home party… so I’ve gotten to kiss it… check it out


- Dozzer



torfc23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:32 AM ET
I know Warren made it happen. Can’t remember how he ensured it but he was the owner/GM of the team at the time and he made sure his son played for his team

Yup, I’m a lucky guy….had him in the family and myself and Andy McDonald were born 5 days apart and grew up together. I played goalie in his driveway after school all the time since we were around the corner from each other. I won’t pretend I was a dominant hockey player because I wasn’t.. more baseball and primarily a musician.

Which is the cool part… after Andy won the cup with the Ducks he got me and my band at the time to play his bring the cup home party… so I’ve gotten to kiss it… check it out


- Dozzer


Wow that's amazing. It really does come down to who you know sometimes doesn't it Haha? That must've been an awesome night/week though getting to play for him bringing the cup home after literally growing up together and playing hockey together all those years. And then literally being able to kiss the actual cup, wow.

I really wish I couldve grown up in Canada. Everyone I talk to has some amazing hockey related stories and I just love how much it's in the blood of almost everyone as a culture. It's really so cool.
torfc23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:36 AM ET
His point production will push him up over 4 million I think… maybe even 5… we’ll see how bad he wants to stay a leaf I guess
- Dozzer

You're probably right here. I wish he was up this year (though technically we could extend) so we could maybe get ahead of his point production.

Sandin's, Lily's, and Soup's contracts will also be interesting.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:38 AM ET
I'm willing to bet they see all the cross checks, they just don't call them. Otherwise Tampa would have 1 or 2 guys in the box all night long.
But then again if they called them maybe Tampa would stop.

- bobbyisno1


Yeah but to be fair the leafs get away with that kind of thing too… it’s only when a player takes it a step too far and they get called. That’s why I hate reviews… listen… the ref will throw some rope and you won’t get called but don’t complain when you’ve crossed the line.

I do truthfully prefer that mindset when it comes to reffing instead of the expectation of them to be a robot.

As I said I’m not against the idea of having an off ice ref but I still want it to be a person and not a robot
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 7 @ 12:41 AM ET
Yeah but to be fair the leafs get away with that kind of thing too… it’s only when a player takes it a step too far and they get called. That’s why I hate reviews… listen… the ref will throw some rope and you won’t get called but don’t complain when you’ve crossed the line.

I do truthfully prefer that mindset when it comes to reffing instead of the expectation of them to be a robot.

As I said I’m not against the idea of having an off ice ref but I still want it to be a person and not a robot

- Dozzer

I don't really notice the Leafs throwing many cross checks, but I see Tampa doing it every shift or pretty close to every shift.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 7 @ 12:43 AM ET
Yeah but to be fair the leafs get away with that kind of thing too… it’s only when a player takes it a step too far and they get called. That’s why I hate reviews… listen… the ref will throw some rope and you won’t get called but don’t complain when you’ve crossed the line.

I do truthfully prefer that mindset when it comes to reffing instead of the expectation of them to be a robot.

As I said I’m not against the idea of having an off ice ref but I still want it to be a person and not a robot

- Dozzer

Also, I had my dirty lips on that cup in 94 when Healy brought it home, but I drank champagne out of it.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:46 AM ET
Wow that's amazing. It really does come down to who you know sometimes doesn't it Haha? That must've been an awesome night/week though getting to play for him bringing the cup home after literally growing up together and playing hockey together all those years. And then literally being able to kiss the actual cup, wow.

I really wish I couldve grown up in Canada. Everyone I talk to has some amazing hockey related stories and I just love how much it's in the blood of almost everyone as a culture. It's really so cool.

- torfc23


Thank you for all that you said but I won’t lie either… it being in my blood is due to so much luck imo

For instance he’s a couple years younger than me but I grew up with that red head Brian Campbell as well. His brother and I were a year apart and he was 2 or 3 years younger than me…. Another Strathroy boy 👍

And damn the Oilers are on fire
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:47 AM ET
I don't really notice the Leafs throwing many cross checks, but I see Tampa doing it every shift or pretty close to every shift.
- bobbyisno1


I agree when it comes to a comparison

The leafs seem to be way more focused on directing the puck and not the opposition’s sticks or bodies
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:52 AM ET
You're probably right here. I wish he was up this year (though technically we could extend) so we could maybe get ahead of his point production.

Sandin's, Lily's, and Soup's contracts will also be interesting.

- torfc23


At least with Sandin and Liljegren they can’t get arbitration tho… which means management will be able to control their contract price unless they sit out.

So my guess they’ll be in that range which would allow the team to bury them in the marlies (if necessary) without cap hits

Not that they will, or should, but having the ability is a strong positive as well
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 7 @ 12:55 AM ET
Kane with a hatty

Damn
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 7 @ 1:42 AM ET
Hello Gif Garnie
- Dozzer


😬
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

May 7 @ 4:53 AM ET
Very weak call on Muzzin and nice no call on the trapezoid
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 7 @ 5:38 AM ET
Loved Campbell's game tonight. Loved it. Didn't let the second goal sink him. 👍
- joel878

I liked it too. Absorbing pucks, no juicy rebounds. Looked calm. 👍
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 7 @ 5:50 AM ET
Oh I wore DR horse hair stuffed pads as a kid. After they got nice and wet they would be 10 lbs each. Lol

I’ll get modern gear but that looks like old school.

Something like this but I’d likely go white where the black is.


- Cush29


Kenesky’s spent many, many hours in there
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 7 @ 7:20 AM ET
Just stop.
- henny1953

I'll stop when the horse poop gets called the same way on both ends of the ice. It's the refs job to call the penalties, It's not the refs job to make sure the series goes 7 games.
Or maybe the NHL secretly tells them that it is.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 7 @ 7:25 AM ET
For those of you wondering:

Two people.

Flight down Sunday.

One night at Floridian Palace Hotel in downtown Tampa.

Horrible flight home Monday.

$1,066.

That includes all taxes, fees, etc.

Looks like you could get a pait of tix for under $200.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 7 @ 7:27 AM ET
I'll stop when the horse poop gets called the same way on both ends of the ice. It's the refs job to call the penalties, It's not the refs job to make sure the series goes 7 games.
Or maybe the NHL secretly tells them that it is.

- bobbyisno1

It’s the refs’ job to call a roughly equal amount of penalties on both teams.

Which of course is franking ludicrous.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 7 @ 7:33 AM ET
It’s the refs’ job to call a roughly equal amount of penalties on both teams.

Which of course is franking ludicrous.

- Atomic Wedgie

Well that sure as hell doesn't explain game 2, now does it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 7 @ 7:35 AM ET
For those of you wondering:

Two people.

Flight down Sunday.

One night at Floridian Palace Hotel in downtown Tampa.

Horrible flight home Monday.

$1,066.

That includes all taxes, fees, etc.

Looks like you could get a pait of tix for under $200.

- Atomic Wedgie

And flying out of Buffalo is more expensive.

Weird
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 7 @ 7:48 AM ET
It’s the refs’ job to call a roughly equal amount of penalties on both teams.

Which of course is franking ludicrous.

- Atomic Wedgie


Would have been nice to have been there and blast the Leafs' goal song on the cell phone after each tally. Great pre-game meal, even better bottle of wine, watching a good game with a great outcome followed by a 5km walk with the dog wasn't too bad.
Leaffrog
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.30.2018

May 7 @ 8:17 AM ET
Was anyone else terrified for a split second when Engvall passed the puck to Mikheyev?
- Aetherial


Real time, live, yes! I saw disaster all over that.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

May 7 @ 8:44 AM ET
What a beautiful morning.

Get to soak up the weekend on a high and look forward to a Sunday night game.

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