I don't agree, especially at home with last card. Even on the road if you feel you can replace an ineffective player it's worth the risk.
- golfingsince

The leafs won the game because the D as a whole did the damn job.

So do not change it.

I trust Keefe in this. I did not think Liljegren was bad. I wonder if this was about resting him and giving Holl some ice to stay sharp. It is (hopefully) a long grind.

It's plausible that this was just rest. It is Liljegren's first NHL season.
- Aetherial

more learning for the rookie Liljegren from the press box

That’s was Brendan Lemieux, whom I mentioned earlier as nasty and dirty. That one was a bad cross check.
- Cush29

Very dirty hit. Barrie didn’t expect to be hit in that situation.

I trust Keefe in this. I did not think Liljegren was bad. I wonder if this was about resting him and giving Holl some ice to stay sharp. It is (hopefully) a long grind.

It's plausible that this was just rest. It is Liljegren's first NHL season.
- Aetherial

This is what matters to me.

Justin Holl:
Giveaways 56, turnover differential -38 (team worst).

Can't have that this time of year.

Minus 3 cause he was on ice for the empty netters

And Muzzin and Brodie were on ice for them as well.

Way to go not mentioning the explanation
- Dozzer

Still makes him -1 and Muzzin even. But the first empty netter was all on him laying face first on the ice, way not to mention that.

When the game got to 3-2 the leafs truly relied on D… they pulled it off so they shouldn’t be changed
- Dozzer

I was think about Yost article that the Leafs can hold on to lead in a game ...

When the game got to 3-2 the leafs truly relied on D… they pulled it off so they shouldn’t be changed
- Dozzer

They looked far from controlled though. It was pretty scrambly for quite a while. Campbell was huge.

Really depends on what the coach is seeing.

What the hell is going on?

Holl Hate or Lilly Love?

Both are Leafs we need to play well guys.

Still makes him -1 and Muzzin even. But the first empty netter was all on him laying face first on the ice, way not to mention that.
- bobbyisno1

Yup, and his team lost due to him not doing his job or it would have been tied in the late third and the leafs wouldn’t have had opportunities to score on an empty net.

However when his team wins he plays a HUGE role

The leafs won the game because the D as a whole did the damn job.

So do not change it.
- Dozzer

The team did their defensive job.

The leafs won the game because the D as a whole did the damn job.

So do not change it.
- Dozzer

Holl looked good in the first, that's about it to me.

I mainly disagreed with the bolded. Obviously Lilly is the future.

IDGAF what the Leafs do, but as the coach I'd be tempted to put Lilly back in. I see the argument about a winning lineup, but it's one game not a streak.

They looked far from controlled though. It was pretty scrambly for quite a while. Campbell was huge.

Really depends on what the coach is seeing.
- Aetherial

They were using the primary shutdown pairing of Muzzin and Brodie so if you’re gonna criticize poor defensive play make sure you pin it on the guys who were on the ice

What the hell is going on?

Holl Hate or Lilly Love?

Both are Leafs we need to play well guys.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Sorry, winning dumb arguments is way more important.

The team did their defensive job.
- Fakepartofme

Holy poop this is exactly my point.

It’s why you don’t change the lineup.

What the hell is going on?

Holl Hate or Lilly Love?

Both are Leafs we need to play well guys.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Neither.

Just a suggestion to move lili back in, then the anger came out.

Yup, and his team lost due to him not doing his job or it would have been tied in the late third and the leafs wouldn’t have had opportunities to score on an empty net.

However when his team wins he plays a HUGE role
- Dozzer

Anyways, the point was that they all make mistakes. Whether Holl makes more or not I don't know but there are these things called stats that say he does.

Holl looked good in the first, that's about it to me.

I mainly disagreed with the bolded. Obviously Lilly is the future.

IDGAF what the Leafs do, but as the coach I'd be tempted to put Lilly back in. I see the argument about a winning lineup, but it's one game not a streak.
- golfingsince

Oh I know… Liljegren is the future.

However the future isn’t now. So stick with the winning lineup.

Holy poop this is exactly my point.

It’s why you don’t change the lineup.
- Dozzer

The team....not just the D.
Again, if he stays in, no biggie.
But its also no biggie to move lili back in.

like taking the cushion on an old couch strapped to your legs!!!
f'n yeah man ...


those were the day of being a goalie
- dmnted

Oh I wore DR horse hair stuffed pads as a kid. After they got nice and wet they would be 10 lbs each. Lol

I’ll get modern gear but that looks like old school.

Something like this but I’d likely go white where the black is.

Holl looked good in the first, that's about it to me.

I mainly disagreed with the bolded. Obviously Lilly is the future.

IDGAF what the Leafs do, but as the coach I'd be tempted to put Lilly back in. I see the argument about a winning lineup, but it's one game not a streak.
- golfingsince

Holl was responsible for the first goal against. He never should have pinched.

Anyways, the point was that they all make mistakes. Whether makes more or not I don't know but there are these things called stats that say he does.
- bobbyisno1

They won a tight game.

Tight games rely on D big time.

Do not change the D.

End of story.

Tina fey guest judging on Beat Bobby Flay.

Mmmmm

Minus 3 cause he was on ice for the empty netters

And Muzzin and Brodie were on ice for them as well.

Way to go not mentioning the explanation
- Dozzer

I’ll take that 8m stud D on my team any day. Just sayin…

the Leafs won be happy

move on to Sunday match

who in on D -- Holl stays in ?
does a forward come out

status quote line up wize ???




Keefe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


edit: where's my chocolates !!!
- dmnted

Hopefully #52 is long since gone. So that helps.

I’ll take that 8m stud D on my team any day. Just sayin…
- Nighthawk

Me too.

If anyone chose Muzzin over him they’d be absurdly biased