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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
I'd hate to see you get paranoid
- mr.peanut

be nice!
Jim Bob Smith
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Esterhazy, SK
Joined: 03.14.2021

May 6 @ 5:22 PM ET
Get a room.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 5:27 PM ET
https://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/lnh-le-plafond-salarial-du-ch-ampute-de-1-132-500-1.15778251

une chance qu'ils ont eu une saison de marde, lol (je parle de l'équipe ici)

- deadpoulet


osti de cap salarial de criss, comme si ils avaient besoin de ça lol
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 5:27 PM ET
be nice!
- kicksave856



or "be gone"..? now that would be nice
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

May 6 @ 5:32 PM ET
be nice!
- kicksave856

i'm looking out for him!
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 6 @ 5:41 PM ET
osti de cap salarial de criss, comme si ils avaient besoin de ça lol
- Pat1993


On the other hand, you are paying young players for hitting targets, so that shows improvements.

The Habs will not need cap space for years with Weber and Price on LTIR.....
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
I'd hate to see you get paranoid
- mr.peanut



hihihi
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 5:55 PM ET
On the other hand, you are paying young players for hitting targets, so that shows improvements.

The Habs will not need cap space for years with Weber and Price on LTIR.....

- Mashadar



but if they're permanently on LITR they can use that cap space, right..?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 6 @ 5:57 PM ET
i'm looking out for him!
- mr.peanut

i mean i guess.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

May 6 @ 5:57 PM ET
On the other hand, you are paying young players for hitting targets, so that shows improvements.

The Habs will not need cap space for years with Weber and Price on LTIR.....

- Mashadar

Problem is, if memory serves, LTIR doesn't apply until the start of the season. Whereas those big numbers drop at season's start, you can only spend 10% over the cap before that. So yeah, you can use the LTIR space to buy up what's left once the season starts, but it's still dead weight in the off season.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
Problem is, if memory serves, LTIR doesn't apply until the start of the season. Whereas those big numbers drop at season's start, you can only spend 10% over the cap before that. So yeah, you can use the LTIR space to buy up what's left once the season starts, but it's still dead weight in the off season.
- Darksyde



that's probably the detail that I was missing... at least in Weber's case the cap hit will be minimal in the last years of his contract
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
that's probably the detail that I was missing... at least in Weber's case the cap hit will be minimal in the last years of his contract
- Pat1993[
/quote]

as far as I know, cap hit always remain the same for the duration of a contract. He will receive less in term of salary, but who cares other than him?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
Problem is, if memory serves, LTIR doesn't apply until the start of the season. Whereas those big numbers drop at season's start, you can only spend 10% over the cap before that. So yeah, you can use the LTIR space to buy up what's left once the season starts, but it's still dead weight in the off season.
- Darksyde


Habs ain't gonna pick up a big free agent in the next year or two, I am not concerned, plus some other contracts will come off the books by then.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
[quote=Pat1993]that's probably the detail that I was missing... at least in Weber's case the cap hit will be minimal in the last years of his contract

as far as I know, cap hit always remain the same for the duration of a contract. He will receive less in term of salary, but who cares other than him?

- deadpoulet


ahh (frank) you're right, only the base salary changes but the cap hit remains the same, which is why it would be interesting for a team like Arizona who is trying to reach the cap floor but doesn't want to actually spend a lot... apparently this transaction with the coyotes will be completed during the summer
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

May 6 @ 6:12 PM ET
that's probably the detail that I was missing... at least in Weber's case the cap hit will be minimal in the last years of his contract
- Pat1993


The cap stays the same for the duration of the contract.

The payout in salary is less.

That is why a team like Arizona, who would get his large cap hit and actually play him relatively little in dollars, want a contract like that to hit the salary floor (and yet, still pay less in actual salary).

Shea Weber’s contract has a Cap Hit of $7.857M for another four years after this 2021-2022 season but only has to be paid a total of six million in actual dollars during that span. That’s extremely attractive to a team like Arizona, whose new arena deal with Arizona State University will inhibit them from being able to spend much higher than 60M in player salaries for the foreseeable future.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 6:16 PM ET
The cap stays the same for the duration of the contract.

The payout in salary is less.

That is why a team like Arizona, who would get his large cap hit and actually play him relatively little in dollars, want a contract like that to hit the salary floor (and yet, still pay less in actual salary).

- Mashadar


that's what I finally figured out, thanks

let's hope ARZ doesn't choke again during the summer, apparently they were going to grab Weber's contract at the deadline but backed out last minute
Réal_Ruelle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3333 pommes, NT
Joined: 01.13.2021

May 6 @ 6:39 PM ET
Habs ain't gonna pick up a big free agent in the next year or two, I am not concerned, plus some other contracts will come off the books by then.
- Mashadar


If I were Hughes, i'd sign Mr.Peanut to one year contract so he could finish his career with his hometown team. He'd be cheap also for what he actually brings. We all know he is an exciting player to watch and he'd be perfect on a losing team. He also knows how to help the youth grow.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 6:42 PM ET
If I were Hughes, i'd sign Mr.Peanut to one year contract so he could finish his career with his hometown team. He'd be cheap also for what he actually brings. We all know he is an exciting player to watch and he'd be perfect on a losing team.
- Réal_Ruelle


deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 6 @ 6:44 PM ET
If I were Hughes, i'd sign Mr.Peanut to one year contract so he could finish his career with his hometown team. He'd be cheap also for what he actually brings. We all know he is an exciting player to watch and he'd be perfect on a losing team. He also knows how to help the youth grow.
- Réal_Ruelle



Réal_Ruelle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3333 pommes, NT
Joined: 01.13.2021

May 6 @ 6:47 PM ET
Ok, i have to admit I was trying to provoke things on a slow friday night.

Edit: I even apologize.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 6 @ 6:52 PM ET
Ok, i have to admit I was trying to provoke things on a slow friday night.

Edit: I even apologize.

- Réal_Ruelle



henny1953
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Aalborg
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 6 @ 7:03 PM ET
Yes, he could certainly help the youth grow.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 6 @ 7:05 PM ET
Ok, i have to admit I was trying to provoke things on a slow friday night.

Edit: I even apologize.

- Réal_Ruelle


noice
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

May 6 @ 7:06 PM ET
Yes, he could certainly help the youth grow.
- henny1953


cause he's a teacher?
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

May 6 @ 7:17 PM ET
Ok, i have to admit I was trying to provoke things on a slow friday night.

Edit: I even apologize.

- Réal_Ruelle

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