Yes because it sends a message that he possibly doesnt think Couturier is a #1C and is looking for one.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

He was emphatically clear that Couturier is a #1 center. I think you need to listen to the press conference again . You've got that badly wrong.

You're repeatedly characterizing a debate from two different viewpoints as an ethical dilemma. It is not.
- MJL

If two of my employees, who are medical professional, come to me and say we have both contracted a rare and fatal blood cancer and think it was caused by fumes from the Zamboni that idles next to our office, my first response is to shut that Zamboni down until we figure out what’s going on. It’s not to call my lawyer. My first response is concern for my employees not to protect myself. I don’t think Comcast knowingly did anything wrong and I’m not saying they are handling it wrong, but they did have to make a decision on how they were going to respond to the situation and it sure wasn’t the response that McCrossin expected.

This is just my opinion. I’m not saying it’s right and I’m not trying to impose my opinion on anyone.

If two of my employees, who are medical professional, come to me and say we have both contracted a rare and fatal blood cancer and think it was caused by fumes from the Zamboni that idles next to our office, my first response is to shut that Zamboni down until we figure out what’s going on. It’s not to call my lawyer. My first response is concern for my employees not to protect myself. I don’t think Comcast knowingly did anything wrong and I’m not saying they are handling it wrong, but they did have to make a decision on how they were going to respond to the situation and it sure wasn’t the response that McCrossin expected.

This is just my opinion. I’m not saying it’s right and I’m not trying to impose my opinion on anyone.
- Dkos

Tell me how you know factually how the Flyers responded?

Tell me how you know factually how the Flyers responded?
- MJL

Just from what I heard in McCrossin’s interview. I don’t claim to know anything for a fact.

Just from what I heard in McCrossin’s interview. I don’t claim to know anything for a fact.
- Dkos

Exactly so the Flyers don't deserve the benefit of the doubt? If it turns out that the Flyers were negligent here, there will be a price to pay from this fanbase including from me. Not until that is know though.

Yea I’m a canes fan. My wife loves South Carolina. Bye guys

Yea I’m a canes fan. My wife loves South Carolina. Bye guys
- Just5

Raanta injured and had to leave the game.

Exactly so the Flyers don't deserve the benefit of the doubt? If it turns out that the Flyers were negligent here, there will be a price to pay from this fanbase including from me. Not until that is know though.
- MJL

Benefit of the doubt for what? I didn’t say they were negligent. I just said their response is not the response I would have.

Exactly so the Flyers don't deserve the benefit of the doubt? If it turns out that the Flyers were negligent here, there will be a price to pay from this fanbase including from me. Not until that is know though.
- MJL

That is where I am.

I read it. You fail to realize two points. It has not been determined factually that the Flyers didn't properly protect their employees. So where is the ethical dilemma there? The only ethical responsibility related to that is for the employer to provide the employee with a health care plan. The Flyers have met that obligation. Again, until it is litigated that the Flyers failed to provide for the healthy and safety of it's employees, there is no ethical dilemma present. As the other poster pointed out, how is it unethical for the Flyers to protect themselves if they feel they have acted ethically and protected their employees adequately?
- MJL

Having Dave Scott and Cliff Fletcher move into the trainers offices under the same conditions might help the legal team prove the team doesn’t believe the trainers got their illness on company property.

They could have handled this privately with the trainers but they have chosen to hold their ground and take their chances in court.
I’m sure they will have an easy time attracting other quality trainers.
I wonder if any players were hesitant to report injuries or report for rehab treatment if they were aware of the trainers conditions?
Not that the team has had many injuries recently!

If two of my employees, who are medical professional, come to me and say we have both contracted a rare and fatal blood cancer and think it was caused by fumes from the Zamboni that idles next to our office, my first response is to shut that Zamboni down until we figure out what’s going on. It’s not to call my lawyer. My first response is concern for my employees not to protect myself. I don’t think Comcast knowingly did anything wrong and I’m not saying they are handling it wrong, but they did have to make a decision on how they were going to respond to the situation and it sure wasn’t the response that McCrossin expected.

This is just my opinion. I’m not saying it’s right and I’m not trying to impose my opinion on anyone.
- Dkos

I agree with you on how good management would handle a safety complaint from employees. If they chose to ignore those employee concerns I would think that would be discovered during this process.

I hope both trainers get better and that they don’t suffer financial either.

If two of my employees, who are medical professional, come to me and say we have both contracted a rare and fatal blood cancer and think it was caused by fumes from the Zamboni that idles next to our office, my first response is to shut that Zamboni down until we figure out what’s going on. It’s not to call my lawyer. My first response is concern for my employees not to protect myself. I don’t think Comcast knowingly did anything wrong and I’m not saying they are handling it wrong, but they did have to make a decision on how they were going to respond to the situation and it sure wasn’t the response that McCrossin expected.

This is just my opinion. I’m not saying it’s right and I’m not trying to impose my opinion on anyone.
- Dkos

The article that I read said that they looked into it. Gasoline has been used to power vehicles for a long time and there are not a lot of claims that it causes this rare blood disease. Maybe that is is what they were told by scientists or health professionals. All of this will come out and if they did not handle these claims and this risk correctly, or if their medical and workplace safety advice was wrong, that will be determined. I do feel for these two men and their families and hope that they make a full recovery, I just think that this needs to play out.

If two of my employees, who are medical professional, come to me and say we have both contracted a rare and fatal blood cancer and think it was caused by fumes from the Zamboni that idles next to our office, my first response is to shut that Zamboni down until we figure out what’s going on. It’s not to call my lawyer. My first response is concern for my employees not to protect myself. I don’t think Comcast knowingly did anything wrong and I’m not saying they are handling it wrong, but they did have to make a decision on how they were going to respond to the situation and it sure wasn’t the response that McCrossin expected.

This is just my opinion. I’m not saying it’s right and I’m not trying to impose my opinion on anyone.
- Dkos

What sticks out most from the interview regarding this aspect is that according to McCrossin, the Skate Zone is still using one propane-powered zamboni, and even though, he made a request for a change, he is still working in the same office next to the zambonis. The other part that really bothered me is that he received the company’s reply to his request via letter and mentioned being sad that no one talked with him personally about what he is going through.

No, it sure doesn’t sound like it was handled like I would have. Regarding the medical expenses, however, that is just how it is with anyone sick. There is almost always things that insurance doesn’t cover. In the event that McCrossin and Raffa win the lawsuit, they would get that cost plus. I can’t imagine that the legal council would advise against personal gifts from friends within the organization towards their extra medical expenses like the go fund me or the alumni group. It just can’t be company monies.

The article that I read said that they looked into it. Gasoline has been used to power vehicles for a long time and there are not a lot of claims that it causes this rare blood disease. Maybe that is is what they were told by scientists or health professionals. All of this will come out and if they did not handle these claims and this risk correctly, or if their medical and workplace safety advice was wrong, that will be determined. I do feel for these two men and their families and hope that they make a full recovery, I just think that this needs to play out.
- iamscore2day

I don’t know exactly what happened. I read the same thing you did. They looked into it and determined it’s safe and maybe it is. I don’t know. It’s going to play out regardless of anything I think or say.

Could care less what the advanced stats say, if you watch the game Marner is much more deserving of Selke conversation than Matthews

What sticks out most from the interview regarding this aspect is that according to McCrossin, the Skate Zone is still using one propane-powered zamboni, and even though, he made a request for a change, he is still working in the same office next to the zambonis. The other part that really bothered me is that he received the company’s reply to his request via letter and mentioned being sad that no one talked with him personally about what he is going through.

No, it sure doesn’t sound like it was handled like I would have. Regarding the medical expenses, however, that is just how it is with anyone sick. There is almost always things that insurance doesn’t cover. In the event that McCrossin and Raffa win the lawsuit, they would get that cost plus. I can’t imagine that the legal council would advise against personal gifts from friends within the organization towards their extra medical expenses like the go fund me or the alumni group. It just can’t be company monies.
- NC Flyers Fan

When dealing with a legal matter. All conversation needs to be documented. They can't talk to him personally about and were likely advised by legal counsel not to.

What sticks out most from the interview regarding this aspect is that according to McCrossin, the Skate Zone is still using one propane-powered zamboni, and even though, he made a request for a change, he is still working in the same office next to the zambonis. The other part that really bothered me is that he received the company’s reply to his request via letter and mentioned being sad that no one talked with him personally about what he is going through.

No, it sure doesn’t sound like it was handled like I would have. Regarding the medical expenses, however, that is just how it is with anyone sick. There is almost always things that insurance doesn’t cover. In the event that McCrossin and Raffa win the lawsuit, they would get that cost plus. I can’t imagine that the legal council would advise against personal gifts from friends within the organization towards their extra medical expenses like the go fund me or the alumni group. It just can’t be company monies.
- NC Flyers Fan

Bugged me too. They never shut down that Zamboni? They wouldn’t move their office? It wouldn’t have been an admission of anything to do these things. It would have been a human response to someone telling you that they’re afraid this thing might have caused me to contract a terminal illness. Shut it down until we make sure this thing is safe.

Bugged me too. They never shut down that Zamboni? They wouldn’t move their office? It wouldn’t have been an admission of anything to do these things. It would have been a human response to someone telling you that they’re afraid this thing might have caused me to contract a terminal illness. Shut it down until we make sure this thing is safe.
- Dkos

It's a guarantee that if they had done that, it would be used against them as an admission. They likely checked it out and determined that there was no risk and they were within regulations. Who knows if they're right or wrong.

It's a guarantee that if they had done that, it would be used against them as an admission. They likely checked it out and determined that there was no risk and they were within regulations. Who knows if they're right or wrong.
- MJL

Yep, who knows.

I had two different work related injuries. Granted they weren’t serious or life threatening…but, HR just told me to go see a doctor and they’d take care of any costs…and they did. No questions asked. No paperwork. No lawyers. They paid for PT. They even bought new equipment to guard against the injury happening again. I worked for that company for 20 years

When dealing with a legal matter. All conversation needs to be documented. They can't talk to him personally about and were likely advised by legal counsel not to.
- MJL

Of course, yet the point that I question is before the lawsuit. If that is correct, then I have seen it handled both in writing and in person at the same time. I personally disagree that moving an office or getting a different Zamboni is any type of admission of wrongdoing. It’s simply changing something you can change for your employee.

Yep, who knows.

I had two different work related injuries. Granted they weren’t serious or life threatening…but, HR just told me to go see a doctor and they’d take care of any costs…and they did. No questions asked. No paperwork. No lawyers. They paid for PT. They even bought new equipment to guard against the injury happening again. I worked for that company for 20 years
- Dkos

Workman's comp

Boston down 2-0 to the Hurricanes, and most likely lost Lindholm for the rest of the series. The buzz in Boston is if the Bruins lose this series, which is most likely the case, their GM Don Sweeny is getting fired. That means most like Cassidy will go as well once the new GM is hired. If the Flyers are patient, Cassidy would be an excellent coach for them. He is everything the Flyers need: well structured defensively, tough, direct and fair.

If you all want to see a textbook example of how to kill a penalty, just watch the Hurricanes in action. They are completely stifling the Bruins, to a point where the Bruins can't even get the puck in the Carolina zone and sustain any pressure. I hope the Flyers are watching how to properly kill a penalty in this series.

Really is amazing the Oil cannot build a team around Draisaitl and McDavid. McDavid just plays the game at a pace no one can match in the game.

When is somebody going to hold a press conference and explain why Fletcher hasn’t been fired yet?

The fact that the Flyer’s behave as though Fletcher’s continued employment as GM doesn’t even require a public explanation speaks volumes about how out of touch this organization is with modern hockey.