Atomic Wedgie
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Location: At the centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I can't convince myself that they're set with Campbell + Sateri/Kallgren. Yes Sateri has been good internationally and in the KHL, as if evidenced by the amount of those who flop when they come to NA that doesn't count for poop. 12 career NHL games between Sateri/Kallgren, 3 of them in the last 5 years.
That doesn't seem very Dubasy at all to be acquiring legit pieces and patching up holes just to be all-in on Campbell and a couple dart throws. Can't help but think there has to be more there. 🤔 - joel878
Yes, sorry, that's where I am right now.
Leafs fans are saying that they think Campbell can come back and find his form again. They think he can be the goalie he was in November.
But what they mean is they hope he can find his form again.
Sadly, there's absolutely no reason to believe that. He's been franking awful for three months.
We can't win our first round matchup with goaltending like this.
Hell, I don't see us having a seed - Boston is going to pass us.
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Thats good but did you see their race? - Aaron_85
Its in the clip I posted at about 1m 40 seconds
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Might be the best contract of the Leafs too despite what some were saying when he signed it. - Scabeh
The issue is that him and JT haven’t been meshing all that well.
In those past 10 games he was plus 3 in the two games Kerfoot was his C due to the Matthews suspension… the other 8 games with JT at C he’s minus 7.
Now I know the +/- isn’t perfect but that’s a pretty damn notable difference. I know it will never happen but Keefe should consider flipping JT and Matthews. JT took off as well with Marner and Bunting and Matthews is playing like he could pretty much have any wingers and still succeed. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Yes, sorry, that's where I am right now.
Leafs fans are saying that they think Campbell can come back and find his form again. They think he can be the goalie he was in November.
But what they mean is they hope he can find his form again.
Sadly, there's absolutely no reason to believe that. He's been franking awful for three months.
We can't win our first round matchup with goaltending like this.
Hell, I don't see us having a seed - Boston is going to pass us. - Atomic Wedgie
“Good” Campbell is the only available goalie capable of taking the Leafs on a serious run. Leafs have to hope he can regain his form. There’s nobody else that can do anything
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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I've barely watched any Arizona games this year.
Is Starlman now terrible and no one wants him or he's bound to get traded today? - Scabeh
with teams like Ottawa in the league anything is possible, they seem to want bad players
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: At the centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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“Good” Campbell is the only available goalie capable of taking the Leafs on a serious run. Leafs have to hope he can regain his form. There’s nobody else that can do anything - Canada Cup
I agree, but it doesn't exactly fill me with optimism.
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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“Good” Campbell is the only available goalie capable of taking the Leafs on a serious run. Leafs have to hope he can regain his form. There’s nobody else that can do anything - Canada Cup
That's probably true.
Unless that new goaltender from the KHL surprises us all.
The good news is, you guys have already improved from Mrazek with Kallgren so.. hope remains?
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Aaron_85
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Its in the clip I posted at about 1m 40 seconds - winsix
No they had a legit race against each other on a track. I cant find it on YouTube though. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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That was a sneaky good move by Tampa.
The (frank)ing bastards. - Scabeh
Pretty cheap too. 😔 |
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The Law
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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But 4m in actual cash.
Leafs cant afford to retain any cap on any player. Lets not make that mistake again. - Fakepartofme
That's not the math though. If someone takes it all, great.
If not then eating some salary and replacing him with Kallgren at 750k is SAVING cap space.
He's 3.8 on the roster.
He's 2.675 (plus Kallgrens 750k) if he's in the minors.
He's $1M (plus Kallgrens 750) under my hypo.
That's an extra 1.5 - 2M to spend on the rest of the roster. |
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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That's probably true.
Unless that new goaltender from the KHL surprises us all.
The good news is, you guys have already improved from Mrazek with Kallgren so.. hope remains? - Scabeh
A lot of leaf fans seem to expect a goalie to stand on his head night in and night out and essentially play like a future HoFer.
I do believe the D will now be far better and more stable making life a lot easier for whoever is in net. |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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“Good” Campbell is the only available goalie capable of taking the Leafs on a serious run. Leafs have to hope he can regain his form. There’s nobody else that can do anything - Canada Cup
The Leafs shouldn't* need Vezina quality goaltending to advance. They just need competent goaltending.
Forsberg, Varlamov (yes, would be a stretch to fit him in as he has term), Stolarz, Halak, etc. are all (potentially) competent options.
* or maybe this team does require Vezina goaltending? 🤷 |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Yes, sorry, that's where I am right now.
Leafs fans are saying that they think Campbell can come back and find his form again. They think he can be the goalie he was in November.
But what they mean is they hope he can find his form again.
Sadly, there's absolutely no reason to believe that. He's been franking awful for three months.
We can't win our first round matchup with goaltending like this.
Hell, I don't see us having a seed - Boston is going to pass us. - Atomic Wedgie
Campbell has only had 1- 1 1/2 good months of play this season.
But, we only need average campbell, dont need vezina campbell (it would be nice but what can you do).
So who out there is going to be the goalie to play better than JC, is available to trade for and is cheap?
MAF - they looked into it, too expensive...well it was too expensive with Hagel. Even on his own, 50% retained, cap too high. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: At the centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Campbell has only had 1- 1 1/2 good months of play this season.
But, we only need average campbell, dont need vezina campbell (it would be nice but what can you do).
So who out there is going to the goalie to play better than JC, is available to trade for and is cheap?
MAF - they looked into it, too expensive...well it was too expensive with Hagel. Even on his own, 50% retained, cap too high. - Fakepartofme
Nobody.
Damn. |
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Santo_44
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I think Leafs are a dark horse on Lehkonen |
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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The Leafs shouldn't* need Vezina quality goaltending to advance. They just need competent goaltending.
Forsberg, Varlamov (yes, would be a stretch to fit him in as he has term), Stolarz, Halak, etc. are all (potentially) competent options.
* or maybe this team does require Vezina goaltending? 🤷 - mjones242
Agree, Forsberg signed by Sens 3 X $2.75M, Stolarz would be a good add
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Anyone got a link to the TSN stream?
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I think Leafs are a dark horse on Lehkonen - Santo_44
Habs aren't trading Lehkonen unless the return is in the "can't refuse" category.
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Santo_44
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That's not the math though. If someone takes it all, great.
If not then eating some salary and replacing him with Kallgren at 750k is SAVING cap space.
He's 3.8 on the roster.
He's 2.675 (plus Kallgrens 750k) if he's in the minors.
He's $1M (plus Kallgrens 750) under my hypo.
That's an extra 1.5 - 2M to spend on the rest of the roster. - The Law
With Wedgwood being traded…you wonder with ARZ
Every part of me is hoping that Hutton trade that saved Arizona 300K had something to do with this. |
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Santo_44
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Habs aren't trading Lehkonen unless the return is in the "can't refuse" category. - Scabeh
CJ said something different yesterday |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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That's not the math though. If someone takes it all, great.
If not then eating some salary and replacing him with Kallgren at 750k is SAVING cap space.
He's 3.8 on the roster.
He's 2.675 (plus Kallgrens 750k) if he's in the minors.
He's $1M (plus Kallgrens 750) under my hypo.
That's an extra 1.5 - 2M to spend on the rest of the roster. - The Law
If he' traded and cap is retained this year, sure. But I doubt Arizona is willing to pay him 4m cash for the next two seasons.
A buy out is horrible as it handcuffs the cap. If he's bought out just prior to the 2022/23 season its a cap hit of:
Year 1 - 1.03m
Year 2 - 0.83m
Year 3 and 4 - 1.43m |
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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CJ said something differently yesterday - Santo_44
Kent Hughes the actual Habs GM and Pierre Lebrun said so since last week.
I'd trust them before anyone else. |
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Agree, Forsberg signed by Sens 3 X $2.75M, Stolarz would be a good add - winsix
Jake Allen too perhaps?
I mean there's running with goalies who aren't Vezina winners, and then there's running with goalies who have barely played in the NHL at all. Those aren't one and the same. |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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I've barely watched any Arizona games this year.
Is Starlman now terrible and no one wants him or he's bound to get traded today? - Scabeh
You've watched Arizona games regularly in previous years?
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Jake Allen too perhaps?
I mean there's running with goalies who aren't Vezina winners, and then there's running with goalies who have barely played in the NHL at all. Those aren't one and the same. - joel878
Again, Kent Hughes said he wasn't trading a goaltender.
But yes, Allen would have been a good pickup by the Leafs. He's been great since joining the Habs.
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