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10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
The conservative and nostalgic side of me hates the idea of trading Dumo but it may be something that could work out. I wouldn’t bet on it though. I really don’t see the other LHD stepping up to do everything he does. There are a lot of little things that he does that most people don’t pay attention to. And Letang having to adapt to a new partner is probably not ideal.
- Sams_Dog


Resign Letang in the off-season and then trade dumo. Boom
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 15 @ 3:22 PM ET
How do you think he does playing middle 6 QOC and minutes? Florida is at a lifecycle stage where they can afford an overpriced 4th liner who does limited things, but does them well.
- TartanBill



5+ mill is too much for 4th line mins...and 23 points in 49 games.

We already have a a player making 5.5 mill averaging 4 mins more a game than Horny ...13 points in 31 games this season...

If Horny was still with the Pens with 23 points in 49 games making 5.3 mill per...he'd be getting whipped around here like cream or butter...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 15 @ 3:30 PM ET
5+ mill is too much for 4th line mins...and 23 points in 49 games.

We already have a a player making 5.5 mill averaging 4 mins more a game than Horny ...13 points in 31 games this season...

If Horny was still with the Pens with 23 points in 49 games making 5.3 mill per...he'd be getting whipped around here like cream or butter...

- MattStrat


The flips side is that almost $5M on Matheson is too much to spend on a 3rd pairing dman. Obviously the current change would negate that, but up until now that's far too much to spend on a 3rd pairing dman, so while yes, I agree Horny is too much for what he brings, the Pens greater need is up front.
TartanBill
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.16.2016

Mar 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
It is about playing style.

Horny has double Kaps iHDCF60 at 5v5 despite playing on the 4th line.

Horny is in the top 20 in the league for iHDCF60 at 5v5.

Still an elite net front presence.

- Feds91Stammer


Or because he's 4th line? It' easier to hide his age with lower QOC. To me, he looks like an expensive and aging one trick pony, but that one trick (net front) holds up well.

How would you deploy him on the Penguins? Yet, I have a hard time visualizing a line fit with this Penguins team. I don't see him with Sid or Geno, and I don't think Carter line would have enough wheels. Maybe with Blue, but that doesn't solve the middle 6 winger problem.

And yes, Rino, 5 Mil is too much for a 3rd pairing D man.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
The flips side is that almost $5M on Matheson is too much to spend on a 3rd pairing dman. Obviously the current change would negate that, but up until now that's far too much to spend on a 3rd pairing dman, so while yes, I agree Horny is too much for what he brings, the Pens greater need is up front.
- Rinosaur

He plays the 4th most minutes among D though. I know he is technically on the 3rd pair, but his TOI doesn't show it.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 15 @ 4:40 PM ET
Sucks Lindberg got hurt for the year. Hopefully his ankle is ready to go for next year. Nylander should get the next call up I hope. See how he looks.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 15 @ 5:16 PM ET
I think Malkin-Crosby-Rust should play with Letang and Matheson and the rest of the teams Job is to not get scored on. Sorry Jake.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 15 @ 5:27 PM ET
Petterson and Kapanen straight up for Radko Gudas. Clears cap space and Gudas is better than Petts.

poop I forgot Rutherfords in Vancouver not Florida.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
The flips side is that almost $5M on Matheson is too much to spend on a 3rd pairing dman. Obviously the current change would negate that, but up until now that's far too much to spend on a 3rd pairing dman, so while yes, I agree Horny is too much for what he brings, the Pens greater need is up front.
- Rinosaur


Yeah but Matheson and his skating and skill in that sheltered role was really giving us a competitive advantage IMO. I think more so than Horny would in the bottom 6 this season. I agree though, 5M for a 3rd pairing is too much... His bargain bin pricing partner's very low hit helped offset his though
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 15 @ 5:50 PM ET
Idk I do like how Chiarot hits after watching some highlights. I know he isn't worth it. It could be a way to get JR thinking Hex has other deals in place to drive up the offer a bit in his favor.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 15 @ 5:55 PM ET
I would rather put all my eggs in a basket with Vancouver and try for Miller and Myers. For Marino, Kap, E-Rod and any prospects picks he wanted.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 15 @ 6:02 PM ET
Idk I do like how Chiarot hits after watching some highlights. I know he isn't worth it. It could be a way to get JR thinking Hex has other deals in place to drive up the offer a bit in his favor.
- 123Kid


I liked him in Winnipeg. 🤷🏻‍♂️ They had a pretty good defence at the time though so could of easily made him look better. That was also a few years ago.

It’s kind of concerning how many people are tying us to chariot atm though.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Mar 15 @ 6:07 PM ET
I liked him in Winnipeg. 🤷🏻‍♂️ They had a pretty good defence at the time though so could of easily made him look better. That was also a few years ago.

It’s kind of concerning how many people are tying us to chariot atm though.

- 10inchTerror


I mean I definitely trust Hex. So if we did get him, I know he has a plan in place. I assume someone would be moving out before we brought him in. Or I expect a package with Chariot and another player coming back
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
I liked him in Winnipeg. 🤷🏻‍♂️ They had a pretty good defence at the time though so could of easily made him look better. That was also a few years ago.

It’s kind of concerning how many people are tying us to chariot atm though.

- 10inchTerror

Yea that means we won't get him then 😉
Hex ain't giving up a first for a rental anyways in so we good.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 7:44 PM ET
Holy (frank)ing poop, Sully is giving Rust to Geno. Rod is up with Sid!
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 15 @ 7:48 PM ET
Holy (frank)ing poop, Sully is giving Rust to Geno. Rod is up with Sid!
- 668710


I know eh
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 15 @ 7:48 PM ET
I would rather put all my eggs in a basket with Vancouver and try for Miller and Myers. For Marino, Kap, E-Rod and any prospects picks he wanted.
- 123Kid


Definitely not. That deal is atrocious.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 15 @ 7:49 PM ET
Holy (frank)ing poop, Sully is giving Rust to Geno. Rod is up with Sid!
- 668710


Just saw that and had to do a double take.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 7:51 PM ET
Holy (frank)ing poop, Sully is giving Rust to Geno. Rod is up with Sid!
- 668710

Between the kap and petts scratch, the call ups, the line juggling, and taking 7 points out of 10 against the top teams in the east + vegas, it's been a rough week for Sully haters
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 7:53 PM ET
Between the kap and petts scratch, the call ups, the line juggling, and taking 7 points out of 10 against the top teams in the east + vegas, it's been a rough week for Sully haters
- burgh4life87

He reads HB and knows when the tipping point is then boom does just enough to keep in the good graces 🤣
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 7:55 PM ET
He reads HB and knows when the tipping point is then boom does just enough to keep in the good graces 🤣
- 668710

Hahaha
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 8:04 PM ET
Poor ZAR finally scores a goal and gets the press box.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 8:06 PM ET
Poor ZAR finally scores a goal and gets the press box.
- burgh4life87

Good haha. I didn't really want to sign him anyway. He's ok doesn't really do anything for me.

Edit: Rino had to excuse himself due to extreme excitement.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM ET
Holy (frank)ing poop, Sully is giving Rust to Geno. Rod is up with Sid!
- 668710

Finally!
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
Good haha. I didn't really want to sign him anyway. He's ok doesn't really do anything for me.

Edit: Rino had to excuse himself due to extreme excitement.

- 668710

He is out due to sickness. I think he walks this summer though.
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