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- Michael Pachla

Never saw that page before, thanks for the laugh.

The reason I ask is that Mittelstadt is a Minnesota boy. Going with Rossi and Mitts down the middle would be a lot cheaper for them
- Hank Balling

Ryan Hartman is the Center on their number one line, at least for now, and his contract is cheap.

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- Michael Pachla

Possibly. I think back to when they could have brought back Pominville for a reasonable contract and they didn't. Are these similar situations?
- Up2nuthun

they're two totally different players. Why Pommer wasn't signed for another year is a mystery to me, he was still a capable offensive player for 2-3M. I believe Kyle is a stronger leader that they really want to surround the new core with. Until his play falls off a cliff, I think they keep him around. Probably 1 year deals after his contract expires.

Ryan Hartman is the Center on their number one line, at least for now, and his contract is cheap.
- kingcong39

here's a team that doesn't need a true 1C.

here's a team that doesn't need a true 1C.
- TheSabresTaco

They have a strong, multi-talented, difficult to play against, quality top 3 lines.

They have a strong, multi-talented, difficult to play against, quality top 3 lines.
- kingcong39

so you're seeing what I'm implying

a path to salvation

so you're seeing what I'm implying

a path to salvation
- TheSabresTaco

Give the taco the stool and stamp 2024 to his forehead please.

If Minnesota doesn't end up signing their 2018 1st rounder Filip Johansson, could be an interesting free agent signing.

#AllTheRDs

Give the taco the stool and stamp 2024 to his forehead please.
- Theguywiththething

this is not the implication.

so you're seeing what I'm implying

a path to salvation
- TheSabresTaco

They do have an elite player at LW, which greatly helps.

That's 3 franchise tags for middling tight ends. Christ.

Shultz, Howard, Gesicki.

I guess Schultz is more higher end.

We do have an elite player at RW, which greatly helps.
- kingcong39

I know you're excited about Jack Quinn but let's give it a year or two. He'll get there.

The team is under developed but they're creating a team without an elite C, which is possible but requires high end scoring talent elsewhere. Excited to add a stronger Jack Quinn and 2022 #1.

I know you're excited about Jack Quinn but let's give it a year or two. He'll get there.
- TheSabresTaco

Nice try...

Nice try...


- kingcong39

I'm glad Kyvyn has been rumored (Friedman) to be pursuing a D partner for Power. This tells me he's serious about reforming the right side.

That's 3 franchise tags for middling tight ends. Christ.

Shultz, Howard, Gesicki.
- TheSabresTaco

Better extend Knox now

I know you're excited about Jack Quinn but let's give it a year or two. He'll get there.

The team is under developed but they're creating a team without an elite C, which is possible but requires high end scoring talent elsewhere. Excited to add a stronger Jack Quinn and 2022 #1.
- TheSabresTaco

The team is building around 2 1OA defensemen, the forward core is good but no draft pick or Rochester player will move the needle enough in the next 2 years.

Minny is building similar to washington with Ovie, Chicago with Kane, the Sabres invested in D not F. No other team is doing this.

Better extend Knox now
- hubie

Oh and Njoku too. Four.

The team is building around 2 1OA defensemen, the forward core is good but no draft pick or Rochester player will move the needle enough in the next 2 years.

Minny is building similar to washington with Ovie, Chicago with Kane, the Sabres invested in D not F. No other team is doing this.
- Theguywiththething

This plan is heavily dependent on at least one of them being elite. Not many teams win the cup with no elite players

This plan is heavily dependent on at least one of them being elite. Not many teams win the cup with no elite players
- Hank Balling

Be honest with reality, the plan is hopefully one of them is here in 2 years.

The team is building around 2 1OA defensemen, the forward core is good but no draft pick or Rochester player will move the needle enough in the next 2 years.

Minny is building similar to washington with Ovie, Chicago with Kane, the Sabres invested in D not F. No other team is doing this.
- Theguywiththething

This is false. You're completely ignoring all of the U23 forwards here and Tuch. They are missing a high end offensive talent (which may be here in Quinn eventually) but their model appears to be committee offense.

I'm not the guy that says just wait to incorporate the next draft pick. I'm well aware of their limited impacts not named McEichel Matthews. There's some work to do via trades to incorporate one or two high end offensive pieces and one or two RHDs (leaving goalie out of this) and simple analytics easily shows their deficiencies beyond simply youth.

Teams don't trade established 1Cs willingly. The Sabres can vastly overpay, trade for an older guy as a placeholder, or develop a team like there isn't one coming and hope one is found in the draft in the next few years. And right now, they're shaping the lineup like the latter.

This plan is heavily dependent on at least one of them being elite. Not many teams win the cup with no elite players
- Hank Balling

No team wins the cup with just elite Dmen. Zero.

I am certain Kyyvyyn knows this.

No team wins the cup with just elite Dmen. Zero.
- TheSabresTaco

No team has won the cup without an Elite d-man since the '06 Hurricanes.


Boston's 2011 Stanley cup team didn't have an "Elite" offensive player. Offence by committee, solid D and a great goalie.

Forsberg (ext in place) for both firsts and Asplund

or

1st, Mittelstadt, Jokiharju.

Forsberg (ext in place) for both firsts and Asplund

or

1st, Mittelstadt, Jokiharju.
- TheSabresTaco

NO thanks