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TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
It's laughable that he thinks the Flyers can get Lundell for Giroux at the deadline.
- MJL

Outrageous. If Fletcher could pull off Lundell for Giroux he should get a bronze statue outside of the WFC
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 7 @ 10:51 AM ET
If Giroux is willing to sign an extension upon being traded, the trade value goes up as opposed to just being a rental. I would think that's one of the possibilities out there, especially since Pat Brisson is quite involved.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 10:53 AM ET
Exactly why Tippett is more likely to be included in the deal. It also won't be just Tippett. I imagine Fletcher is asking for the 2023 first round pick in any prospective deals. That would be the headliner. If they can get Florida's 2023 first round pick, Tippett and a prospect like Benning or Samoskevich, Fletcher would be stupid to turn that down.
- TobyFlenderson

I have zero faith in the flyers developing or what not if they acquire Tippet, who at tis stage looks more like a suspect than prospect.

They have there own tippet in Frost.

My expectations are so low with Fletcher it would be impossible not to exceed them !!!
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Mar 7 @ 11:07 AM ET
The potential trade talks between the Flyers and Florida and conversations between Giroux and the Flyers will not likely include his willingness to re-sign with a team he is traded to.
- MJL

So you’re saying that a potential extension will not be discussed. That’s due diligence for any team looking to acquire a rental player with Giroux’s skill set. Hence the involvement of Giroux’s agent.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:17 AM ET
So you’re saying that a potential extension will not be discussed. That’s due diligence for any team looking to acquire a rental player with Giroux’s skill set. Hence the involvement of Giroux’s agent.
- Sinisalo4vr

G knows where he is in his career, he’s made his money. Who’s to say he doesn’t sign a two year extension for $3-4M per for a real shot at winning.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 11:24 AM ET
G knows where he is in his career, he’s made his money. Who’s to say he doesn’t sign a two year extension for $3-4M per for a real shot at winning.
- ClaudeFather

I am sure he is as greedy as the next player and will look to make as much as possible He wont give any discount. I don't blame him as neither would I.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:25 AM ET
I am sure he is as greedy as the next player and will look to make as much as possible He wont give any discount. I don't blame him as neither would I.
- hello it's me 2050

Doubt it
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 11:26 AM ET
Doubt it
- ClaudeFather

doubt it all you want. Until proven otherwise he will not take a huge pay cut. Based on his production easily a 6 million per player (maybe more) on 3 year deal.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 7 @ 11:27 AM ET
doubt it all you want. Until proven otherwise he will not take a huge pay cut. Based on his production easily a 6 million per player (maybe more) on 3 year deal.
- hello it's me 2050

I'd be shocked if he took less than that.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 11:34 AM ET
I'd be shocked if he took less than that.
- rayc16

If he took 3 million the PA would not be happy at all.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Mar 7 @ 11:35 AM ET
Didn’t the leafs trade a 1st and 4th for Federko?

Why would I not believe the flyers can’t see a similar return for either Risto or Claude?

Both are better players and have more to offer a playoff team.

Risto’s physical play and Gs ability to win draws are huge in the playoffs and tough to find from players who can play top 4 d and top 6 o.

Braun gets you are 3rd
Jones a 4th

Also listen to offers on Provy and Sandheim. If we are yrs away then move Provys contract and Sanheim out.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Mar 7 @ 11:37 AM ET
G knows where he is in his career, he’s made his money. Who’s to say he doesn’t sign a two year extension for $3-4M per for a real shot at winning.
- ClaudeFather


3 or 4 mill would get that agent crucified as it should.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 7 @ 11:38 AM ET
Didn’t the leafs trade a 1st and 4th for Federko?

Why would I not believe the flyers can’t see a similar return for either Risto or Claude?

Both are better players and have more to offer a playoff team.

Risto’s physical play and Gs ability to win draws are huge in the playoffs and tough to find from players who can play top 4 d and top 6 o.

Braun gets you are 3rd
Jones a 4th

Also listen to offers on Provy and Sandheim. If we are yrs away then move Provys contract and Sanheim out.

- Joe Nardone


Didn't chuckles and scott say that the team is close as currently constructed at the last presser?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 11:40 AM ET
Didn’t the leafs trade a 1st and 4th for Federko?

Why would I not believe the flyers can’t see a similar return for either Risto or Claude?

Both are better players and have more to offer a playoff team.

Risto’s physical play and Gs ability to win draws are huge in the playoffs and tough to find from players who can play top 4 d and top 6 o.

Braun gets you are 3rd
Jones a 4th

Also listen to offers on Provy and Sandheim. If we are yrs away then move Provys contract and Sanheim out.

- Joe Nardone

What contending teams do you see RR playing a top 4 role?
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Mar 7 @ 11:43 AM ET
They are worse. The future is not all that great in any way. Too many holes all over the team and organization.
- hello it's me 2050

Sad but true.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
Outrageous. If Fletcher could pull off Lundell for Giroux he should get a bronze statue outside of the WFC
- TobyFlenderson


How bout a statue molded from elephant dung
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:58 AM ET
3 or 4 mill would get that agent crucified as it should.
- Joe Nardone

I didn’t say this would exactly happen or it’s the only alternative. I’m saying there’s a scenario where a very good hockey team talks with him and his agent and he could get a few years on a contender if he were take less than what he could get on the open market. This is not an agent telling a star player in his prime to take a pay cut. He’s 34 years old.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
I didn’t say this would exactly happen or it’s the only alternative. I’m saying there’s a scenario where a very good hockey team talks with him and his agent and he could get a few years on a contender if he were take less than what he could get on the open market. This is not an agent telling a star player in his prime to take a pay cut. He’s 34 years old.
- ClaudeFather



I agree. I see him getting 4.5 for 2 or 3 seasons. He has made his money and wants to play for a cup now.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 7 @ 12:07 PM ET
I agree. I see him getting 4.5 for 2 or 3 seasons. He has made his money and wants to play for a cup now.
- MBFlyerfan

Yup, I really don’t see him looking for top dollar, it’s a fit at this point.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:13 PM ET
Yup, I really don’t see him looking for top dollar, it’s a fit at this point.
- ClaudeFather


It would be both silly for an organization and himself to price himself out of a winning situation.


hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 12:14 PM ET
I agree. I see him getting 4.5 for 2 or 3 seasons. He has made his money and wants to play for a cup now.
- MBFlyerfan

Says who and based on what?

i do not se any huge team discount coming at all. We shall see.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:17 PM ET
Says who and based on what?

i do not se any huge team discount coming at all. We shall see.

- hello it's me 2050



Says me and based on life experience and human nature.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 12:19 PM ET
Says me and based on life experience and human nature.
- MBFlyerfan

big yawn. So in other words your opinion. Got it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 7 @ 12:21 PM ET
big yawn. So in other words your opinion. Got it.
- hello it's me 2050



Take a nap then.

Never said it was anything other than my opinion.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Mar 7 @ 12:21 PM ET
Yup, I really don’t see him looking for top dollar, it’s a fit at this point.
- ClaudeFather

I agree. He has made his money. I think the prospect of an SC will be the determining factor. He may take less for a better shot at a cup, or two.
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