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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1498691413676023816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691413676023816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

culture beats strategy...thoughts?

- hello it's me 2050

That’s comical
Rliable
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blackwood, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2013

Mar 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
lol why does Carchidi think anyone is going to want Brassard?
- black_francis


Why does Carchidi think anyone wants to read his drivel?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1498691413676023816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691413676023816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

culture beats strategy...thoughts?

- hello it's me 2050



hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
If you ask Chuck Fletcher, as per his town hall quotes, the Flyers are top 3 in the league when it comes to player development and player analytics!
- Flyerfan2868

Who is still spending money on season tickets for this team and cares enough to go to the town hall. They’ve been feeding the fans garbage for the past decade. You could tell whoever is still showing up that they resigned Yandle to an 8 year deal and raised parking by $15 bucks and they’d be ecstatic.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1498691413676023816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691413676023816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

culture beats strategy...thoughts?

- hello it's me 2050


I'll believe this when Yandle is scratched....


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
Why does Carchidi think anyone wants to read his drivel?
- Rliable

Because it worked forever for Panotch’s steaming pieces lol
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Mar 1 @ 2:13 PM ET
Bill, The injury bug hit the Flyers hard this year, especially with players coming back from injury and getting re-injured. Has there been any talk about a shake up of the medical/rehab staff?

The injury to Ellis to start the season sucked. Was there a disagreement between Ellis and the Flyers medical staff in regards to treating his injury? Did one side want surgery and the other side want physical therapy? Sort of like the rift between Eichel and the Sabres medical staff?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 2:15 PM ET
It isnt the same thing. Frost's future is as a C not a Wing. He needs to develop as a C. You cant throw a young guy at LW have him develop his game there and throw him back at C and expect him to succeed. They are two different positions with different responsibilities. Giroux was already an established C at that point and he was moved to LW as an experiment to jump start the offense. It worked so they kept him there.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Giroux broke In the league at RW
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 1 @ 2:16 PM ET
Giroux broke In the league at RW
- Just5



And was drafted as a wing.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 2:19 PM ET
But its not a mixed message. Offense in hockey originates from turn overs and good defensive structure. What Frost is going through is exactly what Joe Thornton went through his first season in Boston under Pat Burns or what Couturier went through his first few seasons in Philly. Frost has got to build up these skills and awareness and once he does, his offensive game will accelerate because then he will be put into a better situation where his skillset can finish off plays. You can have all the skill in the world, but if you do not know how to obtain the puck, it means nothing.
- jd250


Wtf are you talking about. Couturier was checking and clamping down Malkins line in the playoffs his rookie year. Couturier has always been a defensive stalwart.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
Wtf are you talking about. Couturier was checking and clamping down Malkins line in the playoffs his rookie year. Couturier has always been a defensive stalwart.
- Just5

One of the biggest false narratives out there.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1498691413676023816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691413676023816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

culture beats strategy...thoughts?

- hello it's me 2050


Yeah… the Flyers need to decide who and what they are. They don’t seem to have a clue. Gimme a team that has a culture of outworking the other team AND designs a strategy based on the players’ talents and weaknesses, smatter in some size, speed, talent, then add a dash of pride and then I’ll show you a winner. As of now that’s not the mix of this team as put together by management… top down.

PS stop trying to jam a round peg in a square hole and let your players developed their talents without stifling them or changing who they are. Seriously this team would bench Ovie because he’s a scorer not great defensive player. Ugh
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
Wtf are you talking about. Couturier was checking and clamping down Malkins line in the playoffs his rookie year. Couturier has always been a defensive stalwart.
- Just5


Good point. He doesn't know.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
Who is still spending money on season tickets for this team and cares enough to go to the town hall. They’ve been feeding the fans garbage for the past decade. You could tell whoever is still showing up that they resigned Yandle to an 8 year deal and raised parking by $15 bucks and they’d be ecstatic.
- hereticpride


No idea....but in reading the q&a transcript, it's definitely more garbage. Nothing has changed. Management believes they're tops in the league in those key areas already, but are continuing to hire more people in an effort to be better, praise be to Dave Scott and his blank cheques!!!....It's only going to get worse I'm afraid.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1498691413676023816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691413676023816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

culture beats strategy...thoughts?

- hello it's me 2050

THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 1 @ 2:36 PM ET
One of the biggest false narratives out there.
- hello it's me 2050

its reality
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Mar 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1498691413676023816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691413676023816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

culture beats strategy...thoughts?

- hello it's me 2050


This team is light years away. It is stunning how comically inept they are.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
its reality
- THE BLACK HAND

maybe in your world. How any points Malkin have that series?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
One of the biggest false narratives out there.
- hello it's me 2050


You don't remember? Malkin getting frustrated and taking bad penatlies and mugging Couts? Couts skating alongside Malkin and intercepting a no-look pass leading to Jsaq screaming and apparently doing his naked fat guy dance outside?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
maybe in your world. How any points Malkin have that series?
- hello it's me 2050


Compare to what he had before, and compare to Crosby. ppg for Malkin in his prime is a win for us.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
You don't remember? Malkin getting frustrated and taking bad penatlies and mugging Couts? Couts skating alongside Malkin and intercepting a no-look pass leading to Jsaq screaming and apparently doing his naked fat guy dance outside?
- PT21

He flustered him and Neal, Neal with the cheap shot on Coots as well. Imagine pretending this didn’t happen lol
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
https://twitter.com/billmeltzer/status/1498691413676023816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498691413676023816%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

culture beats strategy...thoughts?

- hello it's me 2050



I normally try to be objective, or even contrarian, but honestly, this guy Yeo seems like a moron on merit.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Compare to what he had before, and compare to Crosby. ppg for Malkin in his prime is a win for us.
- PT21

And Coots was adding offense as well.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
He flustered him and Neal, Neal with the cheap shot on Coots as well. Imagine pretending this didn’t happen lol
- ClaudeFather


After that series, I honestly thought rhe sky was the limit. I didn't realize the lights would switch off right away, and stay dark for so long.

Kinda got suckered in for that 2020 stretch, but no more. There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again!!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
One of the biggest false narratives out there.
- hello it's me 2050


Nope. It was absolutely true. Check the box scores.
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