And again...teams don't want to trade their solid A prospects unless elite talent is coming back...something Chiarot is not.

I guess what I'm saying is you should be prepared to be disappointed with the return given what seems to be your expectations
- Takemedrunkimhome

refused, make it happen ( an elite prospect back)

Dont they say the first step is asking ?

I'll put it differently because this is how I view it:

If I were a GM looking to make deadline acquisitions I'd probably be willing to trade my mid to late 1st round pick. I'd probably be willing to trade my B prospects. But under no circumstances would I trade any blue chip assets unless an absolute elite top line talent was coming back. As such I don't expect a potential top line d with scoring, skating and size to be made available, even without a pick in addition. People can want a prospect who is the next Pronger or Lidstrom but odds are the team that currently has them wants them just as much or more. That's the catch 22 of these rebuilds. You get nice assets back for vets but rarely any top line or top pair potential assets. Then you try and obtain those through the draft or FA typically.

If Obie's potential trade went through I'd be satisfied with the return, especially adding a quality right shot d prospect that is close to NHL ready, something the Habs sorely lack
- Takemedrunkimhome

agreed, but with so many teams looking for dmen, the price might go up, especially considering the cap space. we'll see what they can get, but to me a late 1st and a B prospect would be the minimum, that's why I said they could probably get a little bit more than what Obie suggested.

I think sports bets are different but more or less agree
- Takemedrunkimhome

correct, much better chance of success but for far less

how much a week to wagger for the fun of it ?

agreed, but with so many teams looking for dmen, the price might go up, especially considering the cap space. we'll see what they can get, but to me a late 1st and a B prospect would be the minimum, that's why I said they could probably get a little bit more than what Obie suggested.
- fidopro

I think a B prospect + 1st is already very expensive for Ben Chiarot.

agreed, but with so many teams looking for dmen, the price might go up, especially considering the cap space. we'll see what they can get, but to me a late 1st and a B prospect would be the minimum, that's why I said they could probably get a little bit more than what Obie suggested.
- fidopro

The pick will be late regardless, a non playoff team isn't trading for Chiarot and looking at things, the LA 1st could be one of the better ones available

Adam Fox is in that same range too
- Takemedrunkimhome

I couldn't believe that guy was still available in the 3rd round

In retrospect, I was wrong. My disbelief should have started in the 2nd round.

The pick will be late regardless, a non playoff team isn't trading for Chiarot and looking at things, the LA 1st could be one of the better ones available
- OB

who's that RW guy in NY you wanted so bad? you don't think they would let him go for Chiarot straight up? isn't he a better prospect than Spence?

For sure, 1st PP as well.
- BashCH

If Byram wasn't questionable for his career, he would be a great guy to target with Makar running the show in Colorado and Girard being a good 3-4.

Exactly right about teams not parting ways with elite prospects for rentals.... sure I'd want Brandt Clarke in return but that ain't happening
- OB

Gotta say that'd be nice

refused, make it happen ( an elite prospect back)

Dont they say the first step is asking ?
- Xizord

A lot of the best things I've got in life came from having the guts to ask. But you get a lot of no's that way too. No harm asking but expectations management should matter too

who's that RW guy in NY you wanted so bad? you don't think they would let him go for Chiarot straight up? isn't he a better prospect than Spence?
- fidopro

Kravtsov?

No idea, I think the Rags are more interested in Lehkonen anyway

Gotta say that'd be nice
- Takemedrunkimhome

Ya...good luck

agreed, but with so many teams looking for dmen, the price might go up, especially considering the cap space. we'll see what they can get, but to me a late 1st and a B prospect would be the minimum, that's why I said they could probably get a little bit more than what Obie suggested.
- fidopro

Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. You get your price sometimes it's smart to take it rather than hold out for a deal that may never come. Could they get more? Absolutely. In all honesty I think they get less than the package Obie put together

Gotta say that'd be nice
- Takemedrunkimhome

Kid is lights out, isn't he?


...pretty sure UFA to be Chiarot doesn't get it done

A lot of the best things I've got in life came from having the guts to ask. But you get a lot of no's that way too. No harm asking but expectations management should matter too
- Takemedrunkimhome

oh I know, hope for the best….prepare for the worst !

correct, much better chance of success but for far less

how much a week to wagger for the fun of it ?
- Xizord

I'm not a good person to ask...I gamble more than II'd recommend others do

I think a B prospect + 1st is already very expensive for Ben Chiarot.
- BashCH

^ this

I couldn't believe that guy was still available in the 3rd round

In retrospect, I was wrong. My disbelief should have started in the 2nd round.
- stinger67

I've heard teams knew he may do full uni and go ufa and that held his draft status down but that's only things I've heard and not from anybody reputable

I'm not a good person to ask...I gamble more than II'd recommend others do
- Takemedrunkimhome

sometimes as little as 4 or 5 dollars does it for me!

i sure miss football season.

Ya...good luck
- AdamFrench

That's both Obie and my point, yes

oh I know, hope for the best….prepare for the worst !
- Xizord

Prepare for the worst and don't even hope. Life becomes soooo much easier...you're just less fun at parties

sometimes as little as 4 or 5 dollars does it for me!

i sure miss football season.
- kicksave856

I prefer gambling on football. Tried mma...may as well just give my money away. Hockey I do better in daily fantasy stuff

That's both Obie and my point, yes
- Takemedrunkimhome

He's going to be pretty darn good. Reminds me a lot of Charlie McAvoy

He's going to be pretty darn good. Reminds me a lot of Charlie McAvoy
- AdamFrench

Hopefully less of a d bag PoS

Hopefully less of a d bag PoS
- Takemedrunkimhome

McAvoy was a nice boy until he got drafted by the Broons. It's not his fault.