No! Especially not Quinn Hughes, Cale Makar & Jarred Spurgeon!... and Spurgeon was a 6th rounder, what a bum!
- OB

Adam Fox is in that same range too

Enough with chasing size over skill...I've seen wayyyyy too many Habs teams that lack scoring skills compared to their peers
- Takemedrunkimhome

who said you need to chose one over the other?? you need both!

I don't give a poop what round in was drafted in, small dmen need to have exceptionnal talent to succeed in this league and I highly doubt that it is the case with a 4th round pick. unlike Makar and Hughes btw.
- fidopro

Jarred Spurgeon was a 6th rounder and he's 5'9"

Adam Fox is in that same range too
- Takemedrunkimhome

And you certainly wouldn't want that guy on your team

Jarred Spurgeon was a 6th rounder and he's 5'9"
- OB

so because 1 out of a million succeeded it's a good idea to give it a try?

who said you need to chose one over the other?? you need both!
- fidopro

In most cases in most sports outside of the elite who tend to go in the first 3, 5, 10 picks, you're going to have to trade off something because prospects aren't perfect. If Spence was 6'3", 220 lbs, skated well and had his scoring production he likely would never be available for trade (assuming he even is) unless it's for an elite talent going back. Chiarot is not elite...at anything if we're being honest

so because 1 out of a million succeeded it's a good idea to give it a try?
- fidopro

Yes

Yes
- BashCH

People play the lottery religiously with worse odds

In most cases in most sports outside of the elite who tend to go in the first 3, 5, 10 picks, you're going to have to trade off something because prospects aren't perfect. If Spence was 6'3", 220 lbs, skated well and had his scoring production he likely would never be available for trade (assuming he even is) unless it's for an elite talent going back. Chiarot is not elite...at anything if we're being honest
- Takemedrunkimhome

agreed, if that was the case, Habs certainly wouldn't get a 1st and him, but maybe just him! that'd be a better trade than a late 1st and a B prospect. imo

so because 1 out of a million succeeded it's a good idea to give it a try?
- fidopro

Or maybe we can get a 6'4" 1st rounder like Tinordi?

No guarantees, no matter how tall you are!

Or maybe we can get a 6'4" 1st rounder like Tinordi?

No guarantees, no matter how tall you are!
- OB

no, but like my previous answer, you can get a solid prospect, not a B one. Chiarot is one of the most appealing dmen on the market.

In most cases in most sports outside of the elite who tend to go in the first 3, 5, 10 picks, you're going to have to trade off something because prospects aren't perfect. If Spence was 6'3", 220 lbs, skated well and had his scoring production he likely would never be available for trade (assuming he even is) unless it's for an elite talent going back. Chiarot is not elite...at anything if we're being honest
- Takemedrunkimhome

Agreed.... and LA has lots of D prospects and not really expected to make a deep run, decent RD prospect + a decent 1st? I'd take it!

no, but like my previous answer, you an get a solid prospect, not a B one. Chiarot is one of the most appealing dmen in the market.
- fidopro

He's still a rental

He's still a rental
- OB

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Agreed.... and LA has lots of D prospects and not really expected to make a deep run, decent RD prospect + a decent 1st? I'd take it!
- OB

I'd prefer a solid prospect and no pick

agreed, if that was the case, Habs certainly wouldn't get a 1st and him, but maybe just him! that'd be a better trade than a late 1st and a B prospect. imo
- fidopro

I'll put it differently because this is how I view it:

If I were a GM looking to make deadline acquisitions I'd probably be willing to trade my mid to late 1st round pick. I'd probably be willing to trade my B prospects. But under no circumstances would I trade any blue chip assets unless an absolute elite top line talent was coming back. As such I don't expect a potential top line d with scoring, skating and size to be made available, even without a pick in addition. People can want a prospect who is the next Pronger or Lidstrom but odds are the team that currently has them wants them just as much or more. That's the catch 22 of these rebuilds. You get nice assets back for vets but rarely any top line or top pair potential assets. Then you try and obtain those through the draft or FA typically.

If Obie's potential trade went through I'd be satisfied with the return, especially adding a quality right shot d prospect that is close to NHL ready, something the Habs sorely lack

I'd prefer a solid prospect and no pick
- fidopro

Solid prospect like Kale Clague?

I'd prefer a solid prospect and no pick
- fidopro

And that solid prospect could still be a miss

I'll put it differently because this is how I view it:

If I were a GM looking to make deadline acquisitions I'd probably be willing to trade my mid to late 1st round pick. I'd probably be willing to trade my B prospects. But under no circumstances would I trade any blue chip assets unless an absolute elite top line talent was coming back. As such I don't expect a potential top line d with scoring, skating and size to be made available, even without a pick in addition. People can want a prospect who is the next Pronger or Lidstrom but odds are the team that currently has them wants them just as much or more. That's the catch 22 of these rebuilds. You get nice assets back for vets but rarely any top line or top pair potential assets. Then you try and obtain those through the draft or FA typically.

If Obie's potential trade went through I'd be satisfied with the return, especially adding a quality right shot d prospect that is close to NHL ready, something the Habs sorely lack
- Takemedrunkimhome

That's also what I think, no GM will trade a grade A prospect for Chiarot, especially as a rental.

Solid prospect like Kale Clague?
- BashCH

I'd prefer a solid prospect and no pick
- fidopro

And again...teams don't want to trade their solid A prospects unless elite talent is coming back...something Chiarot is not.

I guess what I'm saying is you should be prepared to be disappointed with the return given what seems to be your expectations

People play the lottery religiously with worse odds
- Takemedrunkimhome

i'd be curious how much my bro plays a week...i'm thinking well over 50$ if you incluse the sport bets

thats crazy, I dont think I spend 50$ a year on lottery

That's also what I think, no GM will trade a grade A prospect for Chiarot, especially as a rental.
- BashCH

They'd have to be super desperate which I don't anticipate anybody is that desperate for Chiarot

I'll put it differently because this is how I view it:

If I were a GM looking to make deadline acquisitions I'd probably be willing to trade my mid to late 1st round pick. I'd probably be willing to trade my B prospects. But under no circumstances would I trade any blue chip assets unless an absolute elite top line talent was coming back. As such I don't expect a potential top line d with scoring, skating and size to be made available, even without a pick in addition. People can want a prospect who is the next Pronger or Lidstrom but odds are the team that currently has them wants them just as much or more. That's the catch 22 of these rebuilds. You get nice assets back for vets but rarely any top line or top pair potential assets. Then you try and obtain those through the draft or FA typically.

If Obie's potential trade went through I'd be satisfied with the return, especially adding a quality right shot d prospect that is close to NHL ready, something the Habs sorely lack
- Takemedrunkimhome

Exactly right about teams not parting ways with elite prospects for rentals.... sure I'd want Brandt Clarke in return but that ain't happening

i'd be curious how much my bro plays a week...i'm thinking well over 50$ if you incluse the sport bets

thats crazy, I dont think I spend 50$ a year on lottery
- Xizord

I think sports bets are different but more or less agree