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HenryHockey
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Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Feb 28 @ 4:44 PM ET
Has anyone heard about what's going to happen to the kids from Jokerit & RIga? Saw that those teams suspended play on the KHL (or completely withdrew), but didn't see too much on the impact to the players (didn't read too much of the article, so my bad!). Could be a good way yo snag some prospects....Saw that our number of draft choices in '23 are kinda low, and from what I saw '23 looks to be another deep draft year.....could be a good way to add to the prospect pool!


Panthers signed this guy and immediately had to put him on waivers. That is what anyone else will have to do if they try to "snag" one of these guys. I do not know the contract deal. Assume it is one year??? No info on it.

EDIT: Per PuckPedia.com, Lindbohm has a one-way deal worth $750,000 pro-rated for the remainder of the season.

This guy has to be better than Danny Deke!!
DRW1991
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.05.2016

Feb 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
So how good is this kid? Numbers seem interesting. Like his size!

Has anyone heard about what's going to happen to the kids from Jokerit & RIga? Saw that those teams suspended play on the KHL (or completely withdrew), but didn't see too much on the impact to the players (didn't read too much of the article, so my bad!). Could be a good way yo snag some prospects....Saw that our number of draft choices in '23 are kinda low, and from what I saw '23 looks to be another deep draft year.....could be a good way to add to the prospect pool!

Have you noticed how we've migrated from shortage to shortage on D? Seems really hard to maintain a couple of strength-guys at each position over a period of time. A while back (several years ago, maybe?) we were short on RD, now it's LD? It's interesting to see how that flows. I've not checked on what the pool looks like for LD, but believe it could be an interesting TDL & UFA (believe I mistakenly posted that we were hurting on the RD, when it's the LD....do I remember that correctly?) for sure.

There are many holes to fill to make us more competitive, but having kids contending for ROY like Raymond & Mo Sides sure does help in generating not only fan interest, but other player's interest as well I'd think. Read an article on how the Wings will have ~$55m in cap space at the end of the year, which is some pretty savvy work done over the past couple of years. Regardless of the record this year, the amount of growth in the player pool and progression of the kids (and the team overall) has really been impressive. Good things in the future, indeed.

- mcmastermike1968

That numbers is ~$37m according to CapFriendly. Need to resign or replace Greiss, Zadina, Namestnikov, Gagner, Rowney, Leddy, Dekes, Stall, and Stretcher.

Obviously some of those guys have already been replaced or will be with younger talent. I honestly would not mind seeing a little bit of an overpayment for Zadina to lock him into an 8 year deal, seems like a much better player on the top line. Even if he ends up as a 3rd line player, if the price is right who cares.

Wouldn't mind bringing Greiss and Leddy back.

As for free agents, I'd be interested in Ristolainen, Lindholm, Strome (if he can play center), Trocheck (same), and Kotkaniemi if the Canes decide not to offer sheet him. Holtby would also be an interesting flyer to replace Greiss.
porkchops1977
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.23.2013

Feb 28 @ 8:09 PM ET
Jeremy, I enjoyed your writing the past few years. Thank you for all your hard work.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Mar 1 @ 8:28 PM ET
You don't see many posts from him that aren't negative or sh!itting on someone. He's a pathetic human being acting all tuff behind a keyboard. He brings nothing to the forum. Thankfully there is alot of good people in the red wings forum to offset this POS.
- porkchops1977



That is a good point, man. But my god is that guy ever a POS stain in this this world eh. Parents must be so proud of him I’m sure - or perhaps they are and that explains everything.

mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Mar 2 @ 2:11 AM ET
🤣🤣🤣
- mcmastermike1968


Pretty impressive game tonight. Seems like there are nights when the Wings just turn it on. Tonight was one of those nights. Larkin is amazing. Raymond keeps progressing, plays so much better than many thought he would Mo Sides is a legit ROY contender. He carries the D, drives play. If Ned gets a solid Dline in front of him, his numbers could be just as impressive as they were in CAR.

GREAT game. The progression is awesome to watch. Seeing what’s in the player pool and how they’re progressing is even more amazing.

Solid play, for sure!!!
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Mar 2 @ 7:24 AM ET

Larkin was definitely a leader last night and Seider was a monster on D.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 7:32 AM ET
Larkin was definitely a leader last night and Seider was a monster on D.
- Tee56

Games like last night remind me why I would have been content trading Fabbri at the deadline and not extending him.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Mar 2 @ 9:29 AM ET
Games like last night remind me why I would have been content trading Fabbri at the deadline and not extending him.
- Feds91Stammer
You may have your wish yet! I would like it if he were traded for another D, Hajek + 4th or Lundqvist would be examples.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
You may have your wish yet! I would like it if he were traded for another D, Hajek + 4th or Lundqvist would be examples.
- HenryHockey

That’s not how Yzerman operates.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Mar 2 @ 11:22 AM ET
Games like last night remind me why I would have been content trading Fabbri at the deadline and not extending him.
- Feds91Stammer


He's such an enigma. I liked the guy, the signing, at 1st. He seemed like a dude who could be part of a foundation. Then his underlying defensive issues started showing up, and puck possession issues started becoming more frequent. When he's on, he's pretty solid. When he's not....yikes. I'm no longer sold on him.....really on the fence.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
He's such an enigma. I liked the guy, the signing, at 1st. He seemed like a dude who could be part of a foundation. Then his underlying defensive issues started showing up, and puck possession issues started becoming more frequent. When he's on, he's pretty solid. When he's not....yikes. I'm no longer sold on him.....really on the fence.
- mcmastermike1968


He's an all-offense middle sixer, ideally third line rather than second. I think that's been apparent from the start.

Nice enough stopgap on a rebuilding team, or even supporting piece on a good one. I like him, and I don't hate his extension (though the AAV is a little high IMO). He's a player who could be useful on just about any roster. But certainly not a "core" piece anywhere.

Ultimately I think that's what makes him appealing as a trade chip. Nobody is going to give us good assets to take out our garbage. But a useful guy like Fabbri or Hronek could potentially fetch a decent return from a team that either rates them a little too highly or has a specific need for that type of player.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 2 @ 11:50 AM ET
He's an all-offense middle sixer, ideally third line rather than second. I think that's been apparent from the start.

Nice enough stopgap on a rebuilding team, or even supporting piece on a good one. I like him, and I don't hate his extension (though the AAV is a little high IMO). He's a player who could be useful on just about any roster. But certainly not a "core" piece anywhere.

Ultimately I think that's what makes him appealing as a trade chip. Nobody is going to give us good assets to take out our garbage. But a useful guy like Fabbri or Hronek could potentially fetch a decent return from a team that either rates them a little too highly or has a specific need for that type of player.

- Sven22

I recall getting blasted by some on here for suggesting we move him for a LD last season. As usual your assessment is spot on.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Mar 2 @ 12:26 PM ET
I recall getting blasted by some on here for suggesting we move him for a LD last season. As usual your assessment is spot on.
- Feds91Stammer


I believe I was one who disagreed with you then (don't think I blasted you...) and am big enough to say I may very well be wrong...and definitely feel now that I was. Hronek is a good middling D-man, I'd had high hopes for him, and still do.

The bottom line I guess is, as we seem by all accounts to be coming out of the rebuild (or at least headed towards the end...), we need to look at players who could possibly carry us in the SCPO. I'm still on the fence about Fabbri & Hronek being foundational pieces.....leaning more toward seeing what draft picks we could get in '23 for them (we don't have a lot of selection in '23, which is supposed to be a fairly deep draft....).
HenryHockey
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Detroit Red Wings
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Mar 2 @ 8:52 PM ET
Zadina is being pegged as a trade piece by some and his recent stint on the 1st line was the Wings "showcasing" him. I would move him for a LD with term. Soucy, Sandheim, maybe Ghost (but maybe need a better defender type), Graves, Gavrikov, Fabbro, Seigenthaler, K. Miller. Some will need a minor pick to come back with and some will require one with Z.
But just which one will be become available?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Mar 2 @ 9:18 PM ET
Jeremy, I enjoyed your blog and poking a little fun at you too. Man, you’re tough. Every time I thought you were down and out, you got back in. You showed me something with your perseverance. May God give you strength, peace, comfort and restoration. Never give up, brother.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Mar 2 @ 10:00 PM ET
Zadina is being pegged as a trade piece by some and his recent stint on the 1st line was the Wings "showcasing" him. I would move him for a LD with term. Soucy, Sandheim, maybe Ghost (but maybe need a better defender type), Graves, Gavrikov, Fabbro, Seigenthaler, K. Miller. Some will need a minor pick to come back with and some will require one with Z.
But just which one will be become available?

- HenryHockey


Interesting. I was watching NHL Tonight this past weekend, one of the guys (think it was The Grim Reaper...) suggested that Zadina was progressing well enough to be considered a more viable part of the Wings going forward. I dunno, H. I still think he's got potential, he may not "fill the net with pucks..." but it just seems that his game evolved enough to maybe warrant a 2d look. He's fairly decent on the fore & back-check, compliments the 1st line relatively well. I could be wrong, just feel there's more to him.

The reality is no one knows what's being worked, nor what players could turn out to be. One thing I would say for sure is to stay away from the Ghost. He's a shell of his former self.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 3 @ 7:25 AM ET
Zadina is being pegged as a trade piece by some and his recent stint on the 1st line was the Wings "showcasing" him. I would move him for a LD with term. Soucy, Sandheim, maybe Ghost (but maybe need a better defender type), Graves, Gavrikov, Fabbro, Seigenthaler, K. Miller. Some will need a minor pick to come back with and some will require one with Z.
But just which one will be become available?

- HenryHockey

The Swiss LD is the only one that makes sense for DET and it doesn’t make sense for NJ
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Mar 3 @ 10:10 PM ET
The Swiss LD is the only one that makes sense for DET and it doesn’t make sense for NJ
- Feds91Stammer


Out of that list Soucy and Graves are the two i would want. I doubt the Devils would move Graves but Soucy likely could be had since Seattle is loaded with defensemen. Both those guys likely would make a good partner for either Seider or Hronek.
todd3066
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 08.05.2020

Mar 4 @ 1:07 AM ET
How about Zadina and Johansson for Joel Edmundson? Montreal moving into full rebuild mode, he has 2 years remaining on his current deal at a very reasonable cap hit, a big defensive D-man who's great in the locker room and would fill the gap until Edvinsson, Wallinder, Bulium et al arrive in earnest. Johansson doesn't have the size Yzerman prefers in his D-men and a change of scenery may be best for Zadina. What do you think?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 4 @ 7:31 AM ET
How about Zadina and Johansson for Joel Edmundson? Montreal moving into full rebuild mode, he has 2 years remaining on his current deal at a very reasonable cap hit, a big defensive D-man who's great in the locker room and would fill the gap until Edvinsson, Wallinder, Bulium et al arrive in earnest. Johansson doesn't have the size Yzerman prefers in his D-men and a change of scenery may be best for Zadina. What do you think?
- todd3066

Edmundson sucks and hasn’t played all season due to a back injury.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 4 @ 7:32 AM ET
Out of that list Soucy and Graves are the two i would want. I doubt the Devils would move Graves but Soucy likely could be had since Seattle is loaded with defensemen. Both those guys likely would make a good partner for either Seider or Hronek.
- dcz28

I would take those two but I don’t think I would want to move Zadina for someone who is 4-5 years older.
todd3066
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 08.05.2020

Mar 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
Edmundson sucks and hasn’t played all season due to a back injury.
- Feds91Stammer

Edmundson is skating and will be playing shortly. He doesn't bring a lot of offense, but has always been solid in the defensive zone. I think he would be an ideal complement to Hronek on the second pairing. What makes you say he sucks?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Mar 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
Out of that list Soucy and Graves are the two i would want. I doubt the Devils would move Graves but Soucy likely could be had since Seattle is loaded with defensemen. Both those guys likely would make a good partner for either Seider or Hronek.
- dcz28


Soucy is a good 3rd pair defenseman. You can play him as a 2nd pair but you get diminishing returns in the long run. His sweet spot is about 15 min. TOI.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
Edmundson is skating and will be playing shortly. He doesn't bring a lot of offense, but has always been solid in the defensive zone. I think he would be an ideal complement to Hronek on the second pairing. What makes you say he sucks?
- todd3066

His career.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Mar 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
Soucy is a good 3rd pair defenseman. You can play him as a 2nd pair but you get diminishing returns in the long run. His sweet spot is about 15 min. TOI.
- Minnyhock


He's averaging 17 min with the Kraken this season and 19 min per the last 2 games. I would imagine he would be fine in the top 4 if he is paired with the right partner. If Seider can do well carrying DeKeyser around, i would imagine he would be fine with someone better like Soucy.
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