Cole Caufield has 10 points in his last 7 games(including 6 goals), but according to Chucky the Flyers don't need scoring.
- Phillywhiteout

Where did he say that?

Secondly Caufiled is the same player that had 8 points over the first 30 games he played.

Its amazing how quickly people dismiss cold streaks from other teams but as soon as a Flyer goes cold he's trash or a bust. Guy went 18 games without a goal

Where did he say that?

Secondly Caufiled is the same player that had 8 points over the first 30 games he played.

Its amazing how quickly people dismiss cold streaks from other teams but as soon as a Flyer goes cold he's trash or a bust. Guy went 18 games without a goal
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I mean the Flyers did draft Brink who was a possible first round talent in the 2nd round. He is a smallish scorer. So it isn't like they avoided smaller players. They just went a different way with York thinking they needed more defensive depth in the system.

The flyers havent had an identity in over a decade. Playing the right way is code for I have no real answer.

Fletcher's drafts will not bear fruit for a few years. Both guys they drafted in Samu and Emile havent exactly lit it up. Every team talks about top end talent. This isn't any new thought process.

For all the faith you have in Chuckle phuck why doesn't he make the coach make changes to the PP?
- hello it's me 2050

Thats your problem, you want to build the team the right way but you arent willing to wait for prospects to be ready. You want them to ASAP. Drafting and developing doesnt work that way. You need to let the prospects grow their game. Some are more ready than others. Couturier and B.Schenn are two examples of guys who were late bloomers. They didnt break out until half way through their 20s.

Problem with this fan base is they preach patience but want results now.

I am with you Mike. I'm following this closely as it impacts my work, but mostly because it feels surreal and yet it's so utterly horrifying.

Blondies version of Ring Of Fire is very very good
- hello it's me 2050

Thanks! i will have to check it out

Thats your problem, you want to build the team the right way but you arent willing to wait for prospects to be ready. You want them to ASAP. Drafting and developing doesnt work that way. You need to let the prospects grow their game. Some are more ready than others. Couturier and B.Schenn are two examples of guys who were late bloomers. They didnt break out until half way through their 20s.

Problem with this fan base is they preach patience but want results now.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Not sure where you get that from.

Maybe they didn't break out because of their development here and not age? Ex selke they turned right away into a checking line forward asap despite being an offensive player in juniors. They didn't want schenn at center. Seems to be doing just fine their for the blues.

Drafing and developing is diff for every player.

Yay

Blondies version of Ring Of Fire is very very good
- hello it's me 2050

Partial to Wall of Voodoos version…

Not sure where you get that from.

Maybe they didn't break out because of their development here and not age? Ex selke they turned right away into a checking line forward asap despite being an offensive player in juniors. They didn't want schenn at center. Seems to be doing just fine their for the blues.

Drafing and developing is diff for every player.
- hello it's me 2050

You mean the guy that was a 3rd line C until he was like 26 and finally showed some offence to his game?

You mean the guy that was a 3rd line C until he was like 26 and finally showed some offence to his game?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Yes the guy they planted into a checking role at 18 despite him showing offensive skill.
They guy they never really developed offensively.

You mean the guy that was a 3rd line C until he was like 26 and finally showed some offence to his game?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Not sure where others get this "we didnt want him at center" comes from. He was the main culprit of not playing to the system and free lancing and getting out of position at a time the coaches were super stressing positional hockey.

Thats your problem, you want to build the team the right way but you arent willing to wait for prospects to be ready. You want them to ASAP. Drafting and developing doesnt work that way. You need to let the prospects grow their game. Some are more ready than others. Couturier and B.Schenn are two examples of guys who were late bloomers. They didnt break out until half way through their 20s.

Problem with this fan base is they preach patience but want results now.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Patience is great. But there are other ways to build your team that are needed to get to the end game….a championship caliber team. A good GM is able to walk and chew gum at the same time. All young players develop at different stages, but there no reason you can’t use other tools in the tool box to build your team. It’s important to note that no team is successful in todays NHL unless they are successful at all 3 of 1) drafting 2) trades 3) free agency.

You mean the guy that was a 3rd line C until he was like 26 and finally showed some offence to his game?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Finally.

Couturier was the 2C starting in 13-14 when he was 20/21 years old. He played in that role for four years and scored 149 points in 293 games, 122 at ES. You must have been one of the dum dums who don't realize that PP time and production have nothing to do with what ES line a player plays on.

When he was 24/25 he got moved up to 1C and got more of a chance on the PP, and had the first of back to back 76 point seasons. Even then the vast majority of his scoring was done at ES.

Keith Yandle is a master at avoiding contact to prolong his "Iron Man" Streak. He was lucky to not pick up yet another minus on this cowardly effort.

https://imgur.com/a/XRETYjL#dyJ2tBp

Rubstov cant seem to catch a break.
- MBFlyerfan

Yeah, it sucks. At this point, coming up on 6 years since he was drafted, I’ve pretty much written him off.

Keith Yandle is a master at avoiding contact to prolong his "Iron Man" Streak. He was lucky to not pick up yet another minus on this cowardly effort.

https://imgur.com/a/XRETYjL#dyJ2tBp
- Feanor

Embarrassing

Finally.

Couturier was the 2C starting in 13-14 when he was 20/21 years old. He played in that role for four years and scored 149 points in 293 games, 122 at ES. You must have been one of the dum dums who don't realize that PP time and production have nothing to do with what ES line a player plays on.

When he was 24/25 he got moved up to 1C and got more of a chance on the PP, and had the first of back to back 76 point seasons. Even then the vast majority of his scoring was done at ES.
- Feanor

Couturier wasnt 2C. Flyers played Giroux, Schenn\Lecavalier as 2nd C. Couturier was used in a 3C Role. The whole reason he was dubbed a career 3C by fans was because he wasnt great offensively until he broke out. I was one of the people telling others to be patient with him.

Keith Yandle is a master at avoiding contact to prolong his "Iron Man" Streak. He was lucky to not pick up yet another minus on this cowardly effort.

https://imgur.com/a/XRETYjL#dyJ2tBp
- Feanor

He’s a (frank)ing disgrace. If he had a shred of self respect, he’d retire. Fletcher and Yeo are even more pathetic. I don’t care what they “promised” him, they need to sit his ass out. I think the rest of the players will get it, they cannot be that oblivious to the fact that Yandle is simply not an NHL player any more.

Couturier wasnt 2C. Flyers played Giroux, Schenn\Lecavalier as 2nd C. Couturier was used in a 3C Role. The whole reason he was dubbed a career 3C by fans was because he wasnt great offensively until he broke out. I was one of the people telling others to be patient with him.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Flyers were definitely not patient with him. Hakstol was trying to get veteran buy in to his system and Schenn had an inordinate brunt of Hak's scowls and reprimands. He paid for it on draft day after that first Hak season.

This is not saying Flyers were right to do it...but was probably a large part of it when combined with the inconsistency.

I get what your saying but its easier for us to say here then be the coach and do it. Like I wonder if the Yandle streak thing is something that keeps him in the lineup. Yeo being just the interim coach, does he want to be the guy who ends the streak by scratching him, fair or not.

JVR. If your looking to move him aren't you hoping he shows production so he has some value?

I don't know what the right answers are with some of this stuff. My hope is that once the TDL comes and goes we start to see more of the younger kids playing in different situations and getting those minutes. Hopefully Laczynski can work his way back and eventually get up here. Like to see Allison and York get healthy and play minutes with the big club. Maybe a player like Attard signs after college and gets some games.
- J35Bacher

IMO JVR is not going to be moved at the deadline unless its a swap of bad contract for bad contract. My hope is he gets bought out in the off season. I know some will say why bother since the Flyers don't get much cap relief from it, but I say its still worth it to get JVR off this team since he is part of the problem IMO. I am hopeful also that once the TDL passes and some veterans get moved, players like York and Laczynski can get some time in the NHL. The Flyers have got to sign their college players also, Attard, Bring, O'Brien and Cates. They need as many options as they can to give them the best chance to find that diamond in their system.

Thats your problem, you want to build the team the right way but you arent willing to wait for prospects to be ready. You want them to ASAP. Drafting and developing doesnt work that way. You need to let the prospects grow their game. Some are more ready than others. Couturier and B.Schenn are two examples of guys who were late bloomers. They didnt break out until half way through their 20s.

Problem with this fan base is they preach patience but want results now.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

This is hard to disagree with. Our other problem is terrible ownership. It is the same ill plaguing all Philly sports teams.

He’s a (frank)ing disgrace. If he had a shred of self respect, he’d retire. Fletcher and Yeo are even more pathetic. I don’t care what they “promised” him, they need to sit his ass out. I think the rest of the players will get it, they cannot be that oblivious to the fact that Yandle is simply not an NHL player any more.
- BiggE

What's more embarrassing is how the Flyers defend the blueline. MacEwen never steps up to challenge the puck carrier in the NZ. Seeler backs in almost to the circles before the puck even crosses the line, lol. Yands backs in too, but to his credit he kinda sorta decided to challenge, but in the most horrific, ineffective, self-defeating way possible.

Embarrassing
- ClaudeFather

You don't think we teach "protect the boards and give up the goal" in defensive positioning? He is also the master of icing the puck. He wouldn't be our problem if not for Chucky.

Couturier wasnt 2C. Flyers played Giroux, Schenn\Lecavalier as 2nd C. Couturier was used in a 3C Role. The whole reason he was dubbed a career 3C by fans was because he wasnt great offensively until he broke out. I was one of the people telling others to be patient with him.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Coots was very productive at ES scoring points before he "broke out" (aka got PP time and better linemates).

I apologize for the off topic post. Please pray for the independence and safety of my native Ukraine. This Russian aggression has no justification. None. Period
- missingmike

Don't tell the TRUMPSTERS.

Vladimir is GENIUS and CLEVER.

GTFO.