I would like to see Frost get more top PP minutes. However, Frost has been getting steady 3rd line minutes with decent players. He just has to show consistently he is the best player on his line before he is moved up, and whether you like it or not, he has not done it!

As Flahr states, Frost defensive play is good, but to generate offense at the NHL level you have to move and he has a habit of stop moving his feet once he gets the puck and thus get eliminated quickly. Its about his pace of play and competing for pucks. Its a bad habit that he has to break before he can take the next step and get into the top 6. You don't just put a player that has this deficiency into the top 6 and expect great results, because all you will do is damage his confidence further. He is NOT Ready to play in the top 6 in the NHL, get that through your thick skull!
- jd250

His confidence looked completely shattered when he was moved up to the #1 PP unit playing with good offensive players.
I'm continually amazed at how most simple of observations escape you and you continually invent fantasies.

Again, did you read the comments of NHL scouts and an assistant NHL GM on how the Flyers are mishandling Frost and looking to break him down into something he is not?

The ghost of JVR, Max Willman and Gerry Mayhew are decent NHL players?
- Tomahawk

Mayhew has played well enough to be considered decent

He's not going to re-sign guys

1) He acknowledged top end talent is gained from the draft
2) If the rumours are true and they move guys like Konecny for younger players thats a sign that Fletcher doesnt indeed believe the team is 2-3 pieces away. Remember it was Scott who said that.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I dont give a schitt what he "acknowledges". Actions will tell the story. The fact you don't think he may resign players is mind boggling to me

Well the GM didn't refute it in anyway did he?

Not a sign at all if they move TK. Could mean they soured on him and dont view him as a key piece. That is possible no?

https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2022/02/23/will-flyers-start-cleaning-up-messes-at-trade-deadline-or-make-more-mistakes/

What a joke they’ve become. Will the clown show go on is the question
- Just5

Do not underestimate chuckles. Look at his prior moves and than honestly think that his future moves will be better?

It was a good off season last season. There are a lot of factors that went into the results of this season, but if you look objectively at the moves that were made, they have all worked out for the most part. Risto has been good for this team, whether you like him or not. Atkinson has been a good addition to the team. Jones has been solid this year as a backup to Hart. Ellis, Brassard and Thompson have had bad luck with injuries, and that is not the GMs fault. Yandle has been a disaster and that one is on Fletcher.
- jd250

Then that falls under the didnt work out category no?

RR hasn't been good for this team. He isn't a diff maker in any way. Replace him with Hagg flyers still in the same spot.

Mayhew has played well enough to be considered decent
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

JVR is the best mouth guard chewer in the entire league! That has to account for something doesn't it? At least he's burning some calories out there on the ice.

This was a great interview, thanks Bill! I hope everyone listens to Button's take on the current state of the Flyers, it was objective but overall very positive.
- jd250

summary please

He's already the Team President. And he's an alternate governor on the board of Com-Spec to boot.

When he's fired, he'll end up somewhere else for sure. Flyers are already his 5th NHL franchise. A lot of hockey people think he's a swell dude, and that gets you further than competency. There will be another team that will want him.

Read how much they fluffed his resume up lol:
http://www.comcastspectac...leadership/chuck-fletcher
- Tomahawk

I mean full time president and give up the GM duties. Don't see him ever being a GM again imo.

Not really proving a point here. Aren't all of the Flyers 4th liners AHL players?
- mickel25

reeves is a solid 4th line player. Adds value. Doesn't hurt you.

It was a disastrous off season last year. I told you that when it happened. Ristolainen has not been good for this team. He is a mediocre player who has done absolutely nothing to improve the team. Atkinson is an okay move. He's a really good player and he has added some goal scoring to the team. However they lost an element that they badly needed and lack. It filled a hole but created a hole. Ellis getting injured is not bad luck. It was completely predictable. You don't make the moves he made to be a bubble playoff team. It was the wrong approach then and it remains the wrong approach. It's an approach that we can expect them to double down on. Fletcher needs to be fired.
- MJL

atkinson has bene more than an ok move Cliff. Losing an "element" isnt his fault. That was a very good move. Sad you cant admit as such.

The Flyers do not have anyone in the top 70 in scoring. Talk about a lack of top end talent.

Other non playoff teams like the Devils and Jackets won games last night in Pittsburgh and Florida by scores of 6-1, and 6-3. Where are the Flyers wins like this?

They have scored two goals or less 28 times in 51 games. Absolutely pathetic.

Yesterday @ 10:15 AM ET
Its not distant to us. Philly has a large Ukrainian population and so there are local ties as well. China and Russia showing their true colors.

Our thoughts are with you.
- PT21


Russia, China, Iran, North Korea > USA and whoever.


Really.
I shall always consider you the AH, as of now.
Always.

I dont give a schitt what he "acknowledges". Actions will tell the story. The fact you don't think he may resign players is mind boggling to me

Well the GM didn't refute it in anyway did he?

Not a sign at all if they move TK. Could mean they soured on him and dont view him as a key piece. That is possible no?
- hello it's me 2050

Which is why I specified younger player. If Konecny isnt a key piece and they are looking to win now, they arent going to look at a young guy, they are going to replace him with a Vet

The Flyers do not have anyone in the top 70 in scoring. Talk about a lack of top end talent.

Other non playoff teams like the Devils and Jackets won games last night in Pittsburgh and Florida by scores of 6-1, and 6-3. Where are the Flyers wins like this?

They have scored two goals or less 28 times in 51 games. Absolutely pathetic.
- PLindbergh31

2 pieces away. If we can put together another strong offseason like johnny G. Whooaaa baby watch out

2 pieces away. If we can put together another strong offseason like johnny G. Whooaaa baby watch out
- Just5

Ha! The two pieces are a prime Gretzky & Orr.

Which is why I specified younger player. If Konecny isnt a key piece and they are looking to win now, they arent going to look at a young guy, they are going to replace him with a Vet
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Chucks actions will tell it all in a few months. He will double down and go for a win now mode.

The Flyers do not have anyone in the top 70 in scoring. Talk about a lack of top end talent.

Other non playoff teams like the Devils and Jackets won games last night in Pittsburgh and Florida by scores of 6-1, and 6-3. Where are the Flyers wins like this?

They have scored two goals or less 28 times in 51 games. Absolutely pathetic.
- PLindbergh31

Giroux is 73rd in scoring. Couturier is a guy who probably is if healthy

Edmonton has 2 Top 3 players in scoring. Hows that working out for them?

Giroux is 73rd in scoring. Couturier is a guy who probably is if healthy

Edmonton has 2 Top 3 players in scoring. Hows that working out for them?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Why do flyers fans always try to look at other teams ineptness instead of just looking at their own.

Went well. Will post tomorrow.

Jason and I also interviewed Craig Button today on a variety of topics: state of the Flyers, Giroux rumors, 2017 Draft redux, Frost development, Provorov, Ristolainen, 2022 Entry Draft and more.

That one is available now:

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1496941470573551622
- bmeltzer

Thanks, Bill. I kind of agree with him. Improving the team is easier said than done, though, with the players and contracts they have now. I think "burning it down" is also difficult due to the contracts.

Why do flyers fans always try to look at other teams ineptness instead of just looking at their own.
- hello it's me 2050

Because most opinions are poop in a vacuum. Perspective matters.

I dont give a schitt what he "acknowledges". Actions will tell the story. The fact you don't think he may resign players is mind boggling to me

Well the GM didn't refute it in anyway did he?

Not a sign at all if they move TK. Could mean they soured on him and dont view him as a key piece. That is possible no?
- hello it's me 2050

Kind of like Fletcher announcing they are beefing up the analytics department while continuing to ignore them?

Analytically speaking Risto wasn't better than Ghost last year and there's still an argument to be made this year that Ghost is still marginally better. Neither are great defensemen so I am not saying the team would've been much different with Ghost but the narrative cost the Flyers a 1st and 2 2nds which is valuable draft capital.

Ghost was the Flyers poster boy for failure, Risto was the former #8 draft pick who just needed a better team around him to shine and fit the Flyers Old Time Hockey mold. Turns out the analytics were correct and the Flyers made a large investment in , at best, lateral move.

Ghost,1st, 2nd, 2nd or Risto. The easy choice then and now was Ghost, not because Ghost was great but because Risto was/is not.

Because most opinions are poop in a vacuum. Perspective matters.
- MBFlyerfan

Only thing that matters if your a flyers fan is they have been a schitt show for over a decade. With really no end in sight.

Kind of like Fletcher announcing they are beefing up the analytics department while continuing to ignore them?

Analytically speaking Risto wasn't better than Ghost last year and there's still an argument to be made this year that Ghost is still marginally better. Neither are great defensemen so I am not saying the team would've been much different with Ghost but the narrative cost the Flyers a 1st and 2 2nds which is valuable draft capital.

Ghost was the Flyers poster boy for failure, Risto was the former #8 draft pick who just needed a better team around him to shine and fit the Flyers Old Time Hockey mold. Turns out the analytics were correct and the Flyers made a large investment in , at best, lateral move.

Ghost,1st, 2nd, 2nd or Risto. The easy choice then and now was Ghost, not because Ghost was great but because Risto was/is not.
- Flyers_01

Analytically RR was I think the the worst Dman in the league or very close to it. As was Hagg!!

When he signed Stewart he said he didn't listen to his analytical dept. He flat out said it.

I am not a ghost fan though they clearly mismanaged him. He was a scapegoat. No issue with the trade. They just didnt use his cap space wisely.

Also a 7th rd pick you forgot!!!

Kind of like Fletcher announcing they are beefing up the analytics department while continuing to ignore them?

Analytically speaking Risto wasn't better than Ghost last year and there's still an argument to be made this year that Ghost is still marginally better. Neither are great defensemen so I am not saying the team would've been much different with Ghost but the narrative cost the Flyers a 1st and 2 2nds which is valuable draft capital.

Ghost was the Flyers poster boy for failure, Risto was the former #8 draft pick who just needed a better team around him to shine and fit the Flyers Old Time Hockey mold. Turns out the analytics were correct and the Flyers made a large investment in , at best, lateral move.

Ghost,1st, 2nd, 2nd or Risto. The easy choice then and now was Ghost, not because Ghost was great but because Risto was/is not.
- Flyers_01

This GM has done the same thing over and over in his career. Overpaid for lateral moves or marginal upgrades at best.

Analytically RR was I think the the worst Dman in the league or very close to it. As was Hagg!!

When he signed Stewart he said he didn't listen to his analytical dept. He flat out said it.
- hello it's me 2050

I am not defending the Stewart signing or RR trade specifically. However, analytics are not the be all end all. Look at the Lightning. Analytically speaking they were a great team three years ago. They got beat by an analytically inferior team. What did they do? They brought in players that surely did not improve the team analytically. They went on to win 2 stanley cups in a row.

I also believe you can too far the other way. CF is a GM that regularly goes too far the other way.