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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 2:00 PM ET
Gaunce Shinkaruk Jensen McNally Schroeder Hodgson White all excellent choices
- VANTEL

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 31 @ 2:22 PM ET
This was from Iain McIntyre

New General Manager Patrik Allvin is not going to have an easy time of it the next couple months. Vancouver is a team that is not constructed well salary cap wise. One of the first players is Jaroslav Halak. Can he be convinced to waive his NMC to go to a contender?

There are some ‘the time is now’ type of deals that can be made. J.T. Miller is one such player who could fetch a nice return now as opposed to next season. Brock Boeser is another because of his $7.5 million qualifying offer. Could Conor Garland be dealt now while his value is decent? Even Tyler Motte may be on the move as depth forwards are hard to find.

Vancouver has seven weeks to set up their analytics department and assess needs and wants going forward. It is going to be a chaotic time.

- Reubenkincade



Hyperbole, it doesn't have to be labelled or termed a chaotic time, it could be reported as "Allvin is going to be setting up the analytics department within the next seven weeks to determine the best way forward for the teams immediate needs, this process is expected to be time consuming with tight timelines but also expected to be extremely productive going forward"

Guess that doesn't sell doom and gloom though, or the sky is falling create hysteria headlines.

Just my take.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 31 @ 2:27 PM ET
Hyperbole, it doesn't have to be labelled or termed a chaotic time, it could be reported as "Allvin is going to be setting up the analytics department within the next seven weeks to determine the best way forward for the teams immediate needs, this process is expected to be time consuming with tight timelines but also expected to be extremely productive going forward"

Guess that doesn't sell doom and gloom though, or the sky is falling create hysteria headlines.

Just my take.

- Makita

That's my hope. You're right, nothing sells better than hysteria.
The last 7 years should be described as "chaotic".
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jan 31 @ 2:28 PM ET
Good morning,

A look forward at the next two games and my thoughts on Conor Garland's name popping up as potential trade bait, in the new blog:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...-be-trade-bait/194/115887
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 31 @ 3:40 PM ET
Hyperbole, it doesn't have to be labelled or termed a chaotic time, it could be reported as "Allvin is going to be setting up the analytics department within the next seven weeks to determine the best way forward for the teams immediate needs, this process is expected to be time consuming with tight timelines but also expected to be extremely productive going forward"

Guess that doesn't sell doom and gloom though, or the sky is falling create hysteria headlines.

Just my take.

- Makita



I don't disagree, I was just passing on some other tidbit from another Canuck reporter.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 31 @ 4:31 PM ET
This was from Iain McIntyre

New General Manager Patrik Allvin is not going to have an easy time of it the next couple months. Vancouver is a team that is not constructed well salary cap wise. One of the first players is Jaroslav Halak. Can he be convinced to waive his NMC to go to a contender?

There are some ‘the time is now’ type of deals that can be made. J.T. Miller is one such player who could fetch a nice return now as opposed to next season. Brock Boeser is another because of his $7.5 million qualifying offer. Could Conor Garland be dealt now while his value is decent? Even Tyler Motte may be on the move as depth forwards are hard to find.

Vancouver has seven weeks to set up their analytics department and assess needs and wants going forward. It is going to be a chaotic time.

- Reubenkincade

Thx but IMac has an amazing grasp of the obvious & nothing we don’t already know.

What we don’t know yet is specifics as in when Allvin & his team will be ready & willing to swing deals. We do know that Allvin stated he’s doing assessing we don’t know his vision.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 4:35 PM ET
Thx but IMac has an amazing grasp of the obvious & nothing we don’t already know.

What we don’t know yet is specifics as in when Allvin & his team will be ready & willing to swing deals. We do know that Allvin stated he’s doing assessing we don’t know his vision.

- Nighthawk

imac has some dumb hockey takes, he was on the verge of tears when Sven got waived. his best use is sucking up to management
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jan 31 @ 6:17 PM ET
Tkachuk was easily bpa at 5th, but we went need with Juolevi. JV was a need instead of BPA. How did those work? EP was BPA, Boeser was BPA, Hughes was BPA. Looks like BPA is the way to go so far...
- Retinalz

You could argue that Aho and Carlo are both better NHL players than Boeser , so not really BPA
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 31 @ 6:23 PM ET
You could argue that Aho and Carlo are both better NHL players than Boeser , so not really BPA
- onesmallleap


BPA = best player available according to your scouts


Aho poops on Boeser, that's not even arguable. He'd be the team's best forward by a decent margin.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 1 @ 5:30 AM ET
Hughes fell to the Canucks – other teams picked "bigger" or "for need" players over him. So, against your narrative, it was a no brainer because he was the best player, better than players taken above him.

And your whole theory is based on a false belief that anyone here said draft only small players, or that the BPA was exclusively small. The BPA might be a large defenseman, or it might be an average sized goalie. Sometimes it may be that they're small. But you're saying that drafting BPA = smaller players = a team full of underachieving bad small players with no value.

There are lots of "big" prospects that don't pan out. Hell, most prospects don't pan out.

- NewYorkNuck


Don't be a moron. I never said that at all... I don't think that. My point was BPA often leads to undersized players because teams pass on them. After a while if your philosophy is always BPA, then you are picking a lot of players in that size class.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 1 @ 9:49 PM ET
Don't be a moron. I never said that at all... I don't think that. My point was BPA often leads to undersized players because teams pass on them. After a while if your philosophy is always BPA, then you are picking a lot of players in that size class.
- boonerbuck

Shhhh...don't summon the Ballsack alt Coward...

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