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- LordHumungous

That one was a quote from Tommy Boy from Chris Farley, it was supposed to be common ground but you ruined it!

What is with this obsession of retaining salary? The Canucks need cap space, the days of Benning cheerfully helping out cap-maxed teams are over.
- Marwood

Well it is on the table if the return reflects it. The question didn’t say it was mandatory. Retaining is a weapon if it garners a good prospect in a better package that reflects retention.

Well it is on the table if the return reflects it. The question didn’t say it was mandatory. Retaining is a weapon if it garners a good prospect in a better package that reflects retention.
- Nighthawk

He's not grossly overpaid, retention, in my opinion, is a sign of weakness. I don't think it should be an option.

He's not grossly overpaid, retention, in my opinion, is a sign of weakness. I don't think it should be an option.
- Marwood

Miller no retention for who/what?

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@65pjc
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Miller no retention for who/what?
- Nighthawk

Players, prospects & a 1st.

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- VANTEL

Looking at NYR as a prime trading partner. They have many needed assets that can get them Miller. They have cap to do it straight up without retaining but next year they face cap decisions to make.

So it comes down to what the best package we could get. Idk if retaining is best or not. That is for you pundits decide.

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@65pjc
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- VANTEL

😂😂

One strategy to be used is making trades that allow cap space to cover Halak bonuses this year.

Looking at NYR as a prime trading partner. They have many needed assets that can get them Miller. They have cap to do it straight up without retaining but next year they face cap decisions to make.

So it comes down to what the best package we could get. Idk if retaining is best or not. That is for you pundits decide.
- Nighthawk

It is actually up to JR/PA to decide.

If the Ranger fans had there way, we would end up with B level player and prospects. Chytil, Lundqvist and a 2nd.

It is actually up to JR/PA to decide.

If the Ranger fans had there way, we would end up with B level player and prospects. Chytil, Lundqvist and a 2nd.
- Reubenkincade

We can be pretty certain that isn’t enough & maybe the Rags start there. It doesn't meet ‘the best offer’.

CBJ needs a top C but no rumours they have shown interest in Miller.

CBJ needs a top C but no rumours they have shown interest in Miller.
- Nighthawk

If Canucks trade Miller, they will also be in need of a top line centre

Anyone care to assess these players & prospects floor & ceiling…

Lafreniere
Kaako
Othmann
Kravtsov
Cuylle
Schneider
Lundkvist
Robertsson

These are the pieces I’d be interested in in the right combo. A late 1st is in the running but not terribly excited about it. The fit after the smoke settles is important.

If Canucks trade Miller, they will also be in need of a top line centre
- Reubenkincade

Yes & a huge consideration if they trade him. Leaving it to Petey & Bo looks risky. Petey has to be legit 1C for it to succeed.

He's not grossly overpaid, retention, in my opinion, is a sign of weakness. I don't think it should be an option.
- Marwood

Meh, doesn't make it a weakness. If a team like NYR offer a B prospect in a package, but will upgrade that to an A prospect if the Canucks retain 50%, is that weakness, or just getting the best deal?

Retaining on JTM will only cost max 2.625 against the cap next year – not a huge number at all. Especially as one of the reason to trade him (free up cap space for Horvat and Hoglander) means the retained amount will come off the books at that moment. As well, if you're getting good young players back, their ELCs will offset that cap amount.

Anyone care to assess these players & prospects floor & ceiling…

Lafreniere
Kaako
Othmann
Kravtsov
Cuylle
Schneider
Lundkvist
Robertsson

These are the pieces I’d be interested in in the right combo. A late 1st is in the running but not terribly excited about it. The fit after the smoke settles is important.
- Nighthawk

I look at it like this;

Byram
Barron
Helleson
Newhook
Jost
Bowers
Kamenev

OS Lafreniere yes or no?

Under $4.11m is only a 2nd

Nothing better than a fight on the short bus to start the weekend.
- Marwood

No shit have to wonder how some made it to adulthood

Meh, doesn't make it a weakness. If a team like NYR offer a B prospect in a package, but will upgrade that to an A prospect if the Canucks retain 50%, is that weakness, or just getting the best deal?

Retaining on JTM will only cost max 2.625 against the cap next year – not a huge number at all. Especially as one of the reason to trade him (free up cap space for Horvat and Hoglander) means the retained amount will come off the books at that moment. As well, if you're getting good young players back, their ELCs will offset that cap amount.
- NewYorkNuck

Well said I didn’t want to explain the effects & timing. I assumed ppl knew this 👍

I look at it like this;

Byram
Barron
Helleson
Newhook
Jost
Bowers
Kamenev
- Reubenkincade

I don’t get the luv for Barron.
Jost hasn’t impressed at all.

I think the Canucks should offer sheet Conor Bedard

As I see it we need top 4 RHD with size skating & scoring.

LW depth is another hole to fill.

Prospects obviously is lacking.

A home run trade for me is…
Miller(retain 50%)
for
Schneider
Lafreniere
1st

Meh, doesn't make it a weakness. If a team like NYR offer a B prospect in a package, but will upgrade that to an A prospect if the Canucks retain 50%, is that weakness, or just getting the best deal?

Retaining on JTM will only cost max 2.625 against the cap next year – not a huge number at all. Especially as one of the reason to trade him (free up cap space for Horvat and Hoglander) means the retained amount will come off the books at that moment. As well, if you're getting good young players back, their ELCs will offset that cap amount.
- NewYorkNuck

Who said one of the reasons to trade him was to free up capspace to sign Horvat and Hoglander?

JR was pretty clear when he said a team in the position the Canucks are in(non-playoff team) shouldn't be in cap trouble like they are.(paraphrasing)

Also, I can't see Hoglander getting paid much more than1.2 million.