Thanks for the pep talk. I feel better about the future now.
- Load Management

I'm having a Palm Bay.

Remember 3 years ago or so when we were a top 5 prospect pool, and then all our top prospects graduated?

Trade Miller and we are likely a top 10 prospect pool again.

Laffy + 1st
Schneider + 1st + another piece would be good returns from NYR and doesn't break their bank.

Baron, Compher/Jost, 1st, 2nd is a good return from Col. They pay a little more because the 1st and 2nd are 2023.

In all 3 scenarios we retain on Miller.

I'm having a Palm Bay.
- Marwood

May I suggest the white peach/tangerine. It goes nicely with hopelessness and despair.

Remember 3 years ago or so when we were a top 5 prospect pool, and then all our top prospects graduated?

Trade Miller and we are likely a top 10 prospect pool again.

Laffy + 1st
Schneider + 1st + another piece would be good returns from NYR and doesn't break their bank.

Baron, Compher/Jost, 1st, 2nd is a good return from Col. They pay a little more because the 1st and 2nd are 2023.

In all 3 scenarios we retain on Miller.
- Retinalz

The Canucks prospect pool has never been top 5 in any serious ranking system. That’s just crazy talk.

The Canucks prospect pool has never been top 5 in any serious ranking system. That’s just crazy talk.
- bloatedmosquito

A few years back we were top 7 for sure...not sure about top 5.

Mini can confirm...

The Canucks prospect pool has never been top 5 in any serious ranking system. That’s just crazy talk.
- bloatedmosquito

When quinn was in school and Ep in Sweden alpng wiyh Demko in the ahl with some decent looking prospects we were top5

Remember 3 years ago or so when we were a top 5 prospect pool, and then all our top prospects graduated?

Trade Miller and we are likely a top 10 prospect pool again.

Laffy + 1st
Schneider + 1st + another piece would be good returns from NYR and doesn't break their bank.

Baron, Compher/Jost, 1st, 2nd is a good return from Col. They pay a little more because the 1st and 2nd are 2023.

In all 3 scenarios we retain on Miller.
- Retinalz

I keep thinking these returns are crazy until i remember hes a top20 points player with one more very cheap year. I like the idea of trading him more each day if the return is right

A few years back we were top 7 for sure...not sure about top 5.

Mini can confirm...
- LordHumungous

True, I found one in 2018 that had us at seven. Here’s their list:

1. Elias Pettersson
2. Quinn Hughes
3. Thatcher Demko
4. Jonathan Dahlen
5. Olli Juolevi
6. Adam Gaudette
7. Michael DiPietro
8. Kole Lind
9. Lukas Jasek
10. Jett Woo

Anyone remember when Arizona was top 3 prospect pool,for 3 years straight.
How did that work out for Arizona?

May I suggest the white peach/tangerine. It goes nicely with hopelessness and despair.
- bloatedmosquito

Refreshingly futile! Lovely, thanks!

The Vancouver Canucks are asking for an ‘astronomical’ price for forward J.T. Miller at this time but it could come down closer to the trade deadline. Miller could play on right wing on either of the top-two lines and possibly shift to second-line center next year if need be. Could the Rangers convince the Canucks to retain some salary?

Will the Canucks go after Rangers Alexis Lafreniere in the offseason with new Canucks assistant GM Emilie Castonguay being Lafreniere’s former agent? Could there be a ‘mega-deal’ involving either Elias Pettersson or Bo Horvat?

The Vancouver Canucks are asking for an ‘astronomical’ price for forward J.T. Miller at this time but it could come down closer to the trade deadline. Miller could play on right wing on either of the top-two lines and possibly shift to second-line center next year if need be. Could the Rangers convince the Canucks to retain some salary?

Will the Canucks go after Rangers Alexis Lafreniere in the offseason with new Canucks assistant GM Emilie Castonguay being Lafreniere’s former agent? Could there be a ‘mega-deal’ involving either Elias Pettersson or Bo Horvat?
- Reubenkincade

Juicy.

Will someone step up for J.T. Miller?
TSN: Pierre LeBrun thinks that the Vancouver Canucks will tell teams that if you’re interested in J.T. Miller, you better make your best offer before the March 21st trade deadline.


“Now, the Canucks’ front office has a few things to consider here because it’s not a guarantee they move him. He’s got a year and a half left on his deal. The front office, with new general manager Patrick Allvin, has to ask this question – where would the Canucks be in two years time when J.T. Miller’s deal is up? Is he part of what they view as the team moving forward?

Number two, this team needs young prospects, more prospects in the pipeline. If a team steps up with three to four prospects, three to four assets, it’s something they’ve probably got to look at.

And number three, is their best deal for J.T. Miller before this deadline, or is it in the off-season at the draft when he has a year left? None of those questions are answered yet but it’s something the Canucks’ revamped front office is going to tackle over the next couple of weeks.”

Will someone step up for J.T. Miller?
TSN: Pierre LeBrun thinks that the Vancouver Canucks will tell teams that if you’re interested in J.T. Miller, you better make your best offer before the March 21st trade deadline.


“Now, the Canucks’ front office has a few things to consider here because it’s not a guarantee they move him. He’s got a year and a half left on his deal. The front office, with new general manager Patrick Allvin, has to ask this question – where would the Canucks be in two years time when J.T. Miller’s deal is up? Is he part of what they view as the team moving forward?

Number two, this team needs young prospects, more prospects in the pipeline. If a team steps up with three to four prospects, three to four assets, it’s something they’ve probably got to look at.

And number three, is their best deal for J.T. Miller before this deadline, or is it in the off-season at the draft when he has a year left? None of those questions are answered yet but it’s something the Canucks’ revamped front office is going to tackle over the next couple of weeks.”
- Reubenkincade

Six (minimum based on the post above) for one swap? has that ever happened in the history of the NHL for a player other that Eric Lindros?

Who knew JP Miller was an elite generational talent. Amazing.

Remember 3 years ago or so when we were a top 5 prospect pool, and then all our top prospects graduated?

Trade Miller and we are likely a top 10 prospect pool again.

Laffy + 1st
Schneider + 1st + another piece would be good returns from NYR and doesn't break their bank.

Baron, Compher/Jost, 1st, 2nd is a good return from Col. They pay a little more because the 1st and 2nd are 2023.

In all 3 scenarios we retain on Miller.
- Retinalz

If this was Millers actual last contract year he'd most likely be gone. But if the team keeps sniffing the WC spot I can see Rutherford and the new GM keeping him for now. Unless it's a major fleecing like Rutherford has pulled off in the past...but like anything Rutherford has also been fleeced. lol

Six (minimum based on the post above) for one swap? has that ever happened in the history of the NHL for a player other that Eric Lindros?

Who knew JP Miller was an elite generational talent. Amazing.
- bloatedmosquito

I think pretty close to Duchene got is for the Avs is not out of the question. Not five, but three good pieces isnt crazy imo

Six (minimum based on the post above) for one swap? has that ever happened in the history of the NHL for a player other that Eric Lindros?

Who knew JP Miller was an elite generational talent. Amazing.
- bloatedmosquito

What he is saying is 3-4 prospects/3-4assets not a total of 6-8.

What he is saying is 3-4 prospects/3-4assets not a total of 6-8.
- Reubenkincade

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That’s not what it says though. There is a comma between “3-4 prospects, 3-4 assets”. If it was an either or situation would they not have written “the demand is 3-4 prospects or 3-4 assets”?

How hard is it for journalists to use decent grammar? (frank).

If he makes the NHL.
- Marwood

MarWoo

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That’s not what it says though. There is a comma between “3-4 prospects, 3-4 assets”. If it was an either or situation would they not have written “the demand is 3-4 prospects or 3-4 assets”?

How hard is it for journalists to use decent grammar? (frank).
- bloatedmosquito

I think it was taken from him on "Insider Trading" https://www.tsn.ca/inside...kane-j-t-miller-1.1751581... so someone just transcribed it that way. Think it's supposed to be 3-4 prospects/3-4 assets.

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That’s not what it says though. There is a comma between “3-4 prospects, 3-4 assets”. If it was an either or situation would they not have written “the demand is 3-4 prospects or 3-4 assets”?

How hard is it for journalists to use decent grammar? (frank).
- bloatedmosquito

I know, LeBrun and Frieman are terrible that way.
I actually watched that comment last night from LeBrun, so I knew what he was saying.

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That’s not what it says though. There is a comma between “3-4 prospects, 3-4 assets”. If it was an either or situation would they not have written “the demand is 3-4 prospects or 3-4 assets”?

How hard is it for journalists to use decent grammar? (frank).
- bloatedmosquito

Also, LeBrun just put a piece up on the Athletic with the Canucks as the lead and clarified it (since he had to write it):

The Vancouver Canucks aren’t done adding to their revamped front office, although they certainly added some big pieces this week in GM Patrik Allvin and assistant GM Emilie Castonguay.

But they’re not done.

“We still have a little bit more work to do,” Jim Rutherford told The Athletic on Thursday. “We want to strengthen the analytics department (even after bringing in Rachel Doerrie last week). Aiden Fox (Canucks senior analyst) is working with me on that. We want to make sure we have the right people and the right number of people in that department.

And possibly, we may add another person in hockey ops that would work fairly closely with the assistant GMs and the GM.”

The GM search process was the big one, it began with 40 names on Rutherford’s list and he spoke with around 15 candidates over the phone before moving to the final five, in-person interviews last week. Allvin, Mathieu Darche, Scott Mellanby, Sean Burke and Canucks assistant GM Derek Clancey were all part of the final five in-person interviews in Vancouver last Thursday and Friday, a process that also included owner Francesco Aquillini and Canucks Sports and Entertainment president (business operations) Michael Doyle.

Once those interviews were completed, Rutherford, Aquillini and Doyle used the weekend to process their thoughts. By Monday night, Allvin was the pick. The other candidates got calls Tuesday evening thanking them for being part of the process.

Allvin was introduced to the Vancouver media on Wednesday, and it’s fair to say he was among the front runners from the get-go given his previous relationship to Rutherford in Pittsburgh.

“He was a guy that I knew was going to be interviewed and that I had a lot of respect for and a lot of time for,” said Rutherford, the Canucks’ president of hockey operations. “I felt he would get to the final group.’”

But beyond that, it was up to Allvin to get himself across the finish line with his in-person interview.

“Those final, in-person interviews were very important,” Rutherford said. “There was still some work to be done there as far as making that decision (on which GM to hire).”

Now it’s time to get Allvin up to speed on the trade deadline as the Canucks focus on March 21 and what might be a rather interesting set of choices with the roster.

“You always have big decisions especially depending where your team’s at,” Rutherford said of the deadline. “From what I’ve watched, this team deserves credit. They’ve dealt with a lot, with COVID and injuries and not a full lineup. Give them credit, they’ve given all they’ve got.

“Patrik wouldn’t be at the point, and the new people here wouldn’t be at the point where they can give their full evaluation and that’s part of getting this done (all the hires). I don’t have a full evaluation because of not having full lineups. But decisions will have to be made based on where we are today and where we want to be in a year or two.

“When you start at looking at the future, that’s when tough decisions have to be made.”

Which has media and fans in Vancouver mostly focused on J.T. Miller, which makes sense. Because he will be highly sought after by contenders. Although to be clear, Rutherford would not comment on any players as far as the deadline.

Miller has one more year on his deal next season at a $5.25 million AAV. Those types of players, who can help a contender for at least two playoff runs, have been popular the last few years at the deadline. But of course you also pay a higher price than a rental.

My own take: the Canucks do not have to move Miller at this deadline since he has term so they can be picky and make it clear to bidders that they better come ready. We’re talking three or four assets to get into a serious conversation.

The decision for the Canucks’ front office on Miller at this deadline, I think, will be three-fold:

1. Do they view Miller as being part of where the team needs to go two years from now?

2. The Canucks don’t have a lot coming in the pipeline, the organization needs to get younger at some point, and if a team offers three-to-four young assets in a deal, then Vancouver would have to look at it.

3. And finally, is the best trade offer for Miller at this deadline better than what they might get around the draft this summer when he’s got only one year left on his deal but yet perhaps more teams get involved?

These are discussions Rutherford, Allvin and the rest of the Canucks front office have to have in short order.

And I say soon because I think the Canucks will let bidders know in the near future to get their best offer in sooner rather than later.

“Don’t wait until March 21 to make your best offer or you might miss out,” I think that will be part of the message to contenders.

Remember 3 years ago or so when we were a top 5 prospect pool, and then all our top prospects graduated?

Trade Miller and we are likely a top 10 prospect pool again.

Laffy + 1st
Schneider + 1st + another piece would be good returns from NYR and doesn't break their bank.

Baron, Compher/Jost, 1st, 2nd is a good return from Col. They pay a little more because the 1st and 2nd are 2023.

In all 3 scenarios we retain on Miller.
- Retinalz

Miller Woo for Kakko Schneider and a 1st

Miller is gonna get moved. He's legit one of the best players in the league and does everything. He is worth a fortune. 5.5 mill for a year and a half of prime Miller is worth a crap load. Rangers will resign him to a 8mill x 6 deal for something and he fits for them he doesn't for us

Miller Woo for Kakko Schneider and a 1st

Miller is gonna get moved. He's legit one of the best players in the league and does everything. He is worth a fortune. 5.5 mill for a year and a half of prime Miller is worth a crap load. Rangers will resign him to a 8mill x 6 deal for something and he fits for them he doesn't for us
- Jkuzzi

Doubt the Rags move Schneider. I think they’d rather move Laf

Floundering & now injured.
- Nighthawk

Isn't he like 21 though? If he and Petey hit we've got Bo as c 3 and and decent defense with 2 potential studs in Hughes and Schneider. With covid rules is Miller really gonna resign. Trade him for the most you can get. Start the clean up from the WORST gm we have ever had