God, the quotes from some of these people in this convoy are the absolute dumbest, most childish things I've ever heard. I actually feel embarrassed for them, they're so stupidly, pointlessly aggrieved over nothing. What a bunch of squealing little weakhearts. I feel sorry for them.

Anyway, I love the lacrosse goal. I like that it opens up the back of the net in a new way. I've noticed lately guys also going around the back of the net with the puck but then cutting back and passing out front. It'd be cool if Gretzky's office became more of a factor.

Now we just need to increase the size of the nets and we'll be getting somewhere.

Go Leafs Go
- Zezel

Yeah, I was reflecting on what I was saying Underhill, and I don't know. I'm sure people did not like Gretzky's wraparound goals either. The league clearly didn't. They moved the nets because of him. Then teams and goalies needed to adapt to defending against the wraparound and the pass out and they largely did. The Michigan goal in many ways is no different - teams are getting burned because they are cheating on the play. Rather than pursue the puck carrier, they're taking away the passing lanes and pushing in to prevent the wraparound, but they aren't pressuring him. The Michigan sort of forces teams to stop letting a guy just stand there. It technically keeps things in motion.

God, the quotes from some of these people in this convoy are the absolute dumbest, most childish things I've ever heard. I actually feel embarrassed for them, they're so stupidly, pointlessly aggrieved over nothing. What a bunch of squealing little weakhearts. I feel sorry for them.

Anyway, I love the lacrosse goal. I like that it opens up the back of the net in a new way. I've noticed lately guys also going around the back of the net with the puck but then cutting back and passing out front. It'd be cool if Gretzky's office became more of a factor.

Now we just need to increase the size of the nets and we'll be getting somewhere.

Go Leafs Go
- Zezel

I wonder how coaches feel about the lacrosse goal.

And I'm not talking about the old school, don't disrespect the game nonsense.

I'm just wondering if the coaches would rather have their players focusing on making a traditional play, instead of something that could be perceived as a gimmick.

I'd be interested to know what the success rate is for lacrosse goal attempts.

God, the quotes from some of these people in this convoy are the absolute dumbest, most childish things I've ever heard. I actually feel embarrassed for them, they're so stupidly, pointlessly aggrieved over nothing. What a bunch of squealing little weakhearts. I feel sorry for them.

Anyway, I love the lacrosse goal. I like that it opens up the back of the net in a new way. I've noticed lately guys also going around the back of the net with the puck but then cutting back and passing out front. It'd be cool if Gretzky's office became more of a factor.

Now we just need to increase the size of the nets and we'll be getting somewhere.

Go Leafs Go
- Zezel

NO!!!!!!


Yes part of that is me being a goalie but there are fundamentals of the game that shouldn't be changed in my opinion and the size of the net is one of them. Stop trying to make hockey into a super high scoring game - can't we just be ok with a 1-1 tie and celebrate the great goaltending?

You want goals, goals, goals go watch this crazy sport! I guess being a goalie in this game is pretty low pressure - I can't imagine you are expected to make many saves at all.

(I'm ok with the lacrosse goal but I'd want my D man to make a guy pay the price if he tried it by destroying him as he came to the post lol)

Yeah, I was reflecting on what I was saying Underhill, and I don't know. I'm sure people did not like Gretzky's wraparound goals either. The league clearly didn't. They moved the nets because of him. Then teams and goalies needed to adapt to defending against the wraparound and the pass out and they largely did. The Michigan goal in many ways is no different - teams are getting burned because they are cheating on the play. Rather than pursue the puck carrier, they're taking away the passing lanes and pushing in to prevent the wraparound, but they aren't pressuring him. The Michigan sort of forces teams to stop letting a guy just stand there. It technically keeps things in motion.
- Monkeypunk

The way I remember it, it was just the opposite. They moved the net out further from the boards, to give Gretzky (and others now using his office) more room to operate.

I’m ok with that but his play has been a bit suspect lately
- Canada Cup

He hasnt played alot this month, he was bound to come back to earth a bit.
Also, the play in front of him as be questionable at times as well.

NO!!!!!!


Yes part of that is me being a goalie but there are fundamentals of the game that shouldn't be changed in my opinion and the size of the net is one of them. Stop trying to make hockey into a super high scoring game - can't we just be ok with a 1-1 tie and celebrate the great goaltending?

You want goals, goals, goals go watch this crazy sport! I guess being a goalie in this game is pretty low pressure - I can't imagine you are expected to make many saves at all.

(I'm ok with the lacrosse goal but I'd want my D man to make a guy pay the price if he tried it by destroying him as he came to the post lol)


- Cush29

Agreed. Dont touch the size of the nets. There's plenty of scoring as is.
These nets are ridiculous.

NO!!!!!!


Yes part of that is me being a goalie but there are fundamentals of the game that shouldn't be changed in my opinion and the size of the net is one of them. Stop trying to make hockey into a super high scoring game - can't we just be ok with a 1-1 tie and celebrate the great goaltending?

You want goals, goals, goals go watch this crazy sport! I guess being a goalie in this game is pretty low pressure - I can't imagine you are expected to make many saves at all.

(I'm ok with the lacrosse goal but I'd want my D man to make a guy pay the price if he tried it by destroying him as he came to the post lol)


- Cush29

bandy is weird

He hasnt played alot this month, he was bound to come back to earth a bit.
Also, the play in front of him as be questionable at times as well.
- Fakepartofme

I’m just making conversation cause I’m on edge while my pup is in surgery. Poor guy has to spend the night away - in North York!

Agreed. Dont touch the size of the nets. There's plenty of scoring as is.
These nets are ridiculous.
- Fakepartofme

If you change the size of the NHL nets (or puck) suddenly any record around scoring that is broken or reset has to have an * beside it in my opinion. Same to some degree for goaltending too.

I’m just making conversation cause I’m on edge while my pup is in surgery. Poor guy has to spend the night away - in North York!
- Canada Cup

Hope he's alright, my condolences for having to drive to North York as well.

Agreed. Dont touch the size of the nets. There's plenty of scoring as is.
These nets are ridiculous.
- Fakepartofme

I remember when this debate was raging a few years ago, and somebody flat-out said that you can't make the nets any taller, because then the shots will all be higher, and guys will be taking pucks in the face all the time.

He's a crazy idea if they want to increase scoring: why not start calling the hooking, holding and slashing?

I’m just making conversation cause I’m on edge while my pup is in surgery. Poor guy has to spend the night away - in North York!
- Canada Cup

Hope he/she is ok.

I’m just making conversation cause I’m on edge while my pup is in surgery. Poor guy has to spend the night away - in North York!
- Canada Cup

Oh my.

So not a routine surgery?

Sorry but that's not true. I personally know several people who support this movement actually and they are not "uncle Tom's" nor "stupid" people. They are compassionate, empathetic, caring, well educated people who are: just tired of what they feel are draconian rules in Ontario when they see other provinces and nations not going to that extreme and not having a much different outcome if different at all. These are their words / feelings (granted paraphrased) not mine but I respect their feelings and opinions.

I think it's time everyone stop slinging mud at everyone who had a different opinion here and outside of here and their opinions.
- Cush29

I feel the same way which is why I will not vote for Ford in the upcoming provincial election.

I remember when this debate was raging a few years ago, and somebody flat-out said that you can't make the nets any taller, because then the shots will all be higher, and guys will be taking pucks in the face all the time.

He's a crazy idea if they want to increase scoring: why not start calling the hooking, holding and slashing?
- Atomic Wedgie

current net size didn't stop dion

Yeah, I was reflecting on what I was saying Underhill, and I don't know. I'm sure people did not like Gretzky's wraparound goals either. The league clearly didn't. They moved the nets because of him. Then teams and goalies needed to adapt to defending against the wraparound and the pass out and they largely did. The Michigan goal in many ways is no different - teams are getting burned because they are cheating on the play. Rather than pursue the puck carrier, they're taking away the passing lanes and pushing in to prevent the wraparound, but they aren't pressuring him. The Michigan sort of forces teams to stop letting a guy just stand there. It technically keeps things in motion.
- Monkeypunk

I'm trying to find when they moved the nets for Gretzky but not having any luck? They made the nets "shallower" in 2013/2014 which created a bit more room behind the nets for players.

The big rule change due to Gretzky was the introduction of the offsetting penalties and teams playing 5 on 5 vs what used to happen when it would be 2 minutes of 4 on 4. The Oilers would reek havoc on teams 4 on 4 and rack up goals and the league at the time didn't like that so they changed it. I wonder how long until someone suggest they just go back to 4 on 4 for 2 minute offsetting penalties?

That would be some pretty exciting 2 minutes of hockey!

Quite frankly, I'm out of patience with the restrictions.

I'm triple-vaxxed, and I had the 'vid a month ago.

There's no valid reason why I can't go to my local bar and have a pop or two.

There's no valid reason why I can't go to a full capacity Leafs game.

It's time to up the restrictions on those who refuse to protect themselves, and let the rest of us get back to life.

It's now the same neighbourhood of risk to me (and the healthcare system) as the flu. And yes, I got my flu shot this year.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm with you on your frustrations, and understanding that some measures will be lasting, it is time to allow responsible people that have followed the rules back to more social freedom. One major issue is how to handle the people that cannot get vaccinated for health resons. They need to be included and be kept safe. I would also point out that your experience of a flu like illness is not universal. I know some vaxxed people that got really sick, Alphonso Davies was vaccinated and is a star 21 year old athlete that I would imagine was in great condition and developed a serious heart ailment after contracting covid.

Ottawa Police
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The truck convoy will be directed to these specific areas as they arrive in Ottawa. City staff have been making sure appropriate signage is visible, including no-stopping or prohibited parking zones.

blocking off the city to make demands!!!
in approved parking lots with lots of signage!!

Dubas will seriously have to look at adding another top 4 D, Jake doesnt seem to be able to make it through 1 playoff round anymore..now concussions.. not great Bob
- senstroll

Well I hope he comes out of it. Otherwise the Leafs could have 5.6ish mil to get another Dman at or prior to the trade deadline

I haven't been to the ballet in over 2 years. It's getting ridiculous.
- TheMussel

I went last night!

I'm trying to find when they moved the nets for Gretzky but not having any luck? They made the nets "shallower" in 2013/2014 which created a bit more room behind the nets for players.

The big rule change due to Gretzky was the introduction of the offsetting penalties and teams playing 5 on 5 vs what used to happen when it would be 2 minutes of 4 on 4. The Oilers would reek havoc on teams 4 on 4 and rack up goals and the league at the time didn't like that so they changed it. I wonder how long until someone suggest they just go back to 4 on 4 for 2 minute offsetting penalties?

That would be some pretty exciting 2 minutes of hockey!
- Cush29

It happened in 1990-91, "The goal lines, blue lines, defensive zone face-off circles and markings all moved one foot out from the end boards, creating 11 feet of room behind the nets and shrinking the neutral zone from 60 to 58 feet."

. . .BUT, I am clearly misremembering this. I thought it happened earlier, and I thought it was in response to wraparound goals and trying to create more room behind the net to make it harder - but just thinking of the logistics in that statement, it doesn't make sense as Wedgie noted.

I'm trying to find when they moved the nets for Gretzky but not having any luck? They made the nets "shallower" in 2013/2014 which created a bit more room behind the nets for players.

The big rule change due to Gretzky was the introduction of the offsetting penalties and teams playing 5 on 5 vs what used to happen when it would be 2 minutes of 4 on 4. The Oilers would reek havoc on teams 4 on 4 and rack up goals and the league at the time didn't like that so they changed it. I wonder how long until someone suggest they just go back to 4 on 4 for 2 minute offsetting penalties?

That would be some pretty exciting 2 minutes of hockey!
- Cush29

Back in the day the nets had a metal point in the centre along the ice. Mark Howe slid in ass first and at the same time the net got tipped backwards by about 6 inches. He almost got disemboweled.

True boomer story.

I went last night!
- drexel

Leafs didnt play last night


Zing!!!!

Oh my.

So not a routine surgery?
- Atomic Wedgie

He ruptured his ACL first week in December. Been waiting since then. Apparently, it’s common and they saw some lumps on his meniscus on his other leg and he’ll probably need another in 6-8 months. Thank God for insurance. It’s $7,000

Well I hope he comes out of it. Otherwise the Leafs could have 5.6ish mil to get another Dman at or prior to the trade deadline
- dmnted

Right now I might be more concerned about Campbell.