Find me one Liberal that supports the signing. It's always the cons that say "iNnOcEnT uNtIl PrOvEn GuIlTy" when in reality we know that the criminal justice system heavily favours people of power. That's why nothing will come of Virtanen's case. That's why Logan Mailloux is playing in the OHL, and there are countless of other pro athletes that avoid serious jail time for crimes like this.

Just because charges are dropped, does not mean a person is innocent. It could be a sign that the victim doesn't want to live through the trauma again in a heavily publicized case.

Also lol @ the comment about my name. I was 14 when I made this account. The team had plenty of promise. Nine years later and this team is still poop and needs to sign a piece of poop to MAYBE save their season.
- Oilers4Life14

Dang you whinny.

Lol bolded is just untrue.

You're donating money solely for the tax break, let's be real here buddy.

You really just have no clue, eh? Once you boomers die off, hopefully the world will become a better place.
- Oilers4Life14

Lol...my parents aren't even "boomers" u twit, I just spent less time in my 20s playing vids and smoking up than u.

It's a total win win though, very true. Flow throughs to help my buds in the oil patch, donations to kids and families in need, and less tax money for bozos like you to spend on reassignment surgery.

You still won't make the donation though...not even $20. I donate big, tip big, and always remind people that Libs don't do that. You think somehow you deserve it.

Happy 4 the Oli tonight, especially Koskinen... now that's a guy that deserves it.

EDIT: I just read that you are 23yrs old...and I sort of think that it's perfectly fine to be liberal minded at that age. Enjoy life, save some money for your later self, give back some of what you're able to earn in your life, and meet a girl and make babies...but eventually you'll have to adjust your thinking for the sake of your family. But you have time...carry on. I meant what I said, but not necessarily to a 23yr old hockeyfan kid. I guess I'm apologizing. Lol

You're the one making this about liberals and conservatives. It's totally irrelevant. But carry on. Keep your name too. It's funny. Also if you became a fan 9 years ago then I guess MacTavish was in the front office. So that was someone that wasn't just accused of something terrible, but found guilty and went to jail. But people gave him another chance in life. You didn't take a stand then, but I guess this is worse. Makes sense. Go Oilers!!
- HockeyBuzzed

Nice reading comprehension, bud.

I actually didn't know about MacTavish until today.

Lol...my parents aren't even "boomers" u twit, I just spent less time in my 20s playing vids and smoking up than u.

It's a total win win though, very true. Flow throughs to help my buds in the oil patch, donations to kids and families in need, and less tax money for bozos like you to spend on reassignment surgery.

You still won't make the donation though...not even $20. I donate big, tip big, and always remind people that Libs don't do that. You think somehow you deserve it.

Happy 4 the Oli tonight, especially Koskinen... now that's a guy that deserves it.
- JLO961

See, you're trying to peg me as a certain type of individual, but you're just flat out wrong lol.

You're donating solely for selfish reasons though, and you know it. You wouldn't be boasting about it otherwise. Again, without the tax breaks you would donate (frank) all.

True about the Koskinen part. The guy gets way too much hate and has no help in front of him.

Edit: Sent this before I saw your edit. Imagine everything I said, but nicer.

Nice reading comprehension, bud.

I actually didn't know about MacTavish until today.
- Oilers4Life14

You were the first person on this thread to suggest that conservatives would view the Kane situation differently. Or did I read that wrong? Haha. And you did that despite having no clue about my political beliefs. You also assumed my wife would be upset and she loves the signing. Seems like you arrive at conclusions without hearing all sides to a story...anyway, let us know which team you will become a fan of.

You were the first person on this thread to suggest that conservatives would view the Kane situation differently. Or did I read that wrong? Haha. And you did that despite having no clue about my political beliefs. You also assumed my wife would be upset and she loves the signing. Seems like you arrive at conclusions without hearing all sides to a story...anyway, let us know which team you will become a fan of.
- HockeyBuzzed

See, I didn't comment on politics at all in my last post, and here you are bringing it up again bro. You conservatives get triggered so easily, it's hilarious.

EDIT: I just read that you are 23yrs old...and I sort of think that it's perfectly fine to be liberal minded at that age. Enjoy life, save some money for your later self, give back some of what you're able to earn in your life, and meet a girl and make babies...but eventually you'll have to adjust your thinking for the sake of your family. But you have time...carry on. I meant what I said, but not necessarily to a 23yr old hockeyfan kid. I guess I'm apologizing. Lol
- JLO961

Yeah, you did this to me when I was much younger. I get the false Winston Churchill quote of "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have not heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain". But I think one thing that quote doesn't cover is how much social progress the world makes in that time.

In 10 years, I may end up being a conservative (doubt it, I already have been), but it'll be different from today's conservatism. Just like your current conservativism is different from when you were my age.

I also get the whole "quit female doging and work" thing, but it's factual that for people my age that it's much harder to purchase a house, find an entry level job, etc, etc. The older generation certainly didn't have it easy by any means, but they did have it easier than people my age.

I'm staying on that grind and trying to make something of myself, don't you worry about that.

Go tell your wife to read about Kane's off ice adventures and see her reaction. Now imagine every female Oiler fan/anyone who's not a (frank)ing conservative's reaction. People like myself may still watch, but I'm not going to identify as an Oilers fan anymore. Like I said, losing and keeping a terrible front office is one thing, but signing a problematic player who has multiple allegations of abuse is crossing the line.

The franchise is a business, stakeholders are allowed to be upset over business dealings. Kane absolutely makes this team better, but by signing him, they are alienating a large portion of their fanbase.

Stop being a (frank)ing idiot. No one likes you.
- Oilers4Life14

The first mention of politics is copied above. Page 1 of this thread. Your words. And your expletives too. Hmmmm.

The first mention of politics is copied above. Page 1 of this thread. Your words. And your expletives too. Hmmmm.
- HockeyBuzzed

See, you keep bringing up politics, bro.

My "nice reading comprehension" was about this comment:

"Also if you became a fan 9 years ago"

I said that I made this account 9 years ago, not became a fan 9 years ago (that's been about 13 years)

Love the Kane signing. Low risk, high reward.

At best we get a gritty, 30 goal scorer. At worst he acts like his old self and we don't re-sign him or if it's really bad don't play him. Only 1 mill to take the risk.

This team seriously needs some grit and truculence.

Yeah, you did this to me when I was much younger. I get the false Winston Churchill quote of "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have not heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain". But I think one thing that quote doesn't cover is how much social progress the world makes in that time.

In 10 years, I may end up being a conservative (doubt it, I already have been), but it'll be different from today's conservatism. Just like your current conservativism is different from when you were my age.

I also get the whole "quit female doging and work" thing, but it's factual that for people my age that it's much harder to purchase a house, find an entry level job, etc, etc. The older generation certainly didn't have it easy by any means, but they did have it easier than people my age.

I'm staying on that grind and trying to make something of myself, don't you worry about that.
- Oilers4Life14

All good...but I could not disagree more! The world is a million times easier for young people these days! You can literally have an idea, a skill, a product, and immediately reach millions of people! It has never ever been easier to make money literally out of nothing, than it is right now!

The kids in 1st place get held back so the others can catch up! Schools no longer fail kids! Actually, some schools have decided not to give out Fs or even Ds! Minor sports no longer keep score so the kids dont get labelled losers!
No div1, div2, etc...all mixed together. Everything..I mean EVERYTHING has been dumbed down. Never in the history of North America has it been this easy to succeed, and yet no one does it! It's baffling. Yes, rates will climb slightly in the next 2yrs or so, but even at a 4% mtg...it's easy to service that debt, with a modest job. I saw an ad for MacDonalds the other day...$17.50 per hour and $3000 signing bonus! At McDonalds! And you say it's harder...puh...leeeeze.

Get to work bro...your 40yr old future self is going to be pissed off at you, trust me.

Joke: what did socialists use before candles
A: electricity

Go OIL!

Find me one Liberal that supports the signing. It's always the cons that say "iNnOcEnT uNtIl PrOvEn GuIlTy" when in reality we know that the criminal justice system heavily favours people of power. That's why nothing will come of Virtanen's case. That's why Logan Mailloux is playing in the OHL, and there are countless of other pro athletes that avoid serious jail time for crimes like this.
- Oilers4Life14

Sup? Though, I guess if you're referring to 'Liberal' in the sense of the political party, I definitely don't qualify.

You can have your strong negative reaction to the signing but stop dragging everything into the realm of politics. That's a behaviour that should be relegated to the cesspool of self-centered, mental deficients on Twitter. Given your disparaging of a foundational aspect of Western society as if it holds no significant meaning, perhaps that's where you ought to be.

All good...but I could not disagree more! The world is a million times easier for young people these days! You can literally have an idea, a skill, a product, and immediately reach millions of people! It has never ever been easier to make money literally out of nothing, than it is right now!

The kids in 1st place get held back so the others can catch up! Schools no longer fail kids! Actually, some schools have decided not to give out Fs or even Ds! Minor sports no longer keep score so the kids dont get labelled losers!
No div1, div2, etc...all mixed together. Everything..I mean EVERYTHING has been dumbed down. Never in the history of North America has it been this easy to succeed, and yet no one does it! It's baffling. Yes, rates will climb slightly in the next 2yrs or so, but even at a 4% mtg...it's easy to service that debt, with a modest job. I saw an ad for MacDonalds the other day...$17.50 per hour and $3000 signing bonus! At McDonalds! And you say it's harder...puh...leeeeze.

Get to work bro...your 40yr old future self is going to be pissed off at you, trust me.

Joke: what did socialists use before candles
A: electricity

Go OIL!
- JLO961

What a company says and does are 2 different things. $17.50 is likely their wage after a 6 month trial. and that bonus, it is after at least 1 year minimum, probably longer. Tho I do agree with majority of your other points in this post. When I was 20 minimum wage was $5.50/hr. I pumped gas, washed dishes, bussed tables, flipped burgers, delivered newspapers, and sold popcorn/ice cream/pop at the arena all before I was 20. No longer do you often see a 13-19 year old kid doing any of that. And when I do see a kid working to earn their take, I reward them. I will flip them an extra tip to help them out a little more. But even all those positions are being replaced by adults now. I haven't seen a kid walking up and down aisles at a game yelling "popcorn heeeeere" since the 90s. When was the last time you saw a "paper boy?" Even majority at a McDonald's aren't 14-18 anymore, they're 20-22. When was the last time you went to a gas station and you got full service from some 16 year old kid just trying to buy his first car? Meanwhile some smart ones are creating YT channels about gaming. TikTok about dances. creating a online following for some random thing making more than a lot of 35-50 year olds are making working their a's off with post secondary degrees.

And I am "CONSERVATIVE" as (frank) and am completely against the Kane signing. I voted Kenney last election and would again if we were to have one tomorrow. Not that I would be voting for Kenney, but the party he represents and its constant values. If Alberta voted the NDP in last election all bars/restaurants/gyms/Salons/barbers/ect would have been shut down this entire time. I personally enjoy going out for a beer and watching a game once in a while. Or getting my haircut. or anything that allows me to interact with other people. And allowing some of the "smaller people" being able to survive.

Sup? Though, I guess if you're referring the 'Liberal' in the sense of the political party, I definitely don't qualify.

You can have your strong negative reaction to the signing but stop dragging everything into the realm of politics. That's a behaviour that should be relegated to the cesspool of self-centered, mental deficients on Twitter. Given your disparaging of a foundational aspect of Western society as if it holds no significant meaning, perhaps that's where you ought to be.
- MaximumBone

I am actually surprised the "Libs" are taking this stance. figured majority would pin it on Conservitives rejecting it because Kane isn't your standard white middle aged player. And the Liberals calling everyone who disagreed with the signing racist. But I am sure Kane will mention that soon enough.

I am actually surprised the "Libs" are taking this stance. figured majority would pin it on Conservitives rejecting it because Kane isn't your standard white middle aged player. And the Liberals calling everyone who disagreed with the signing racist. But I am sure Kane will mention that soon enough.
- wreckage

Yeah, the 'unjust persecution of a black player' narrative seemed like it could be a plausible direction for the more progressive types to go. Seems the criminal allegations overshadowed that possibility.

Yeah, the 'unjust persecution of a black player' narrative seemed like it could be a plausible direction for the more progressive types to go. Seems the criminal allegations overshadowed that possibility.
- MaximumBone

I'd be all for the give Kane a 2nd chance.... if this wasn't his 4th or 5th or 6th or 7th chance. He messed up in Winnipeg multiple times. Guy messed up in Atlanta/Winnipeg multiple times. Messed up in Buffalo multiple times. Messed up in San Jose multiple times. And to those that say "maybe he has matured since," his last mistake was a month ago... let's be real here.

A great talent on the ice. A player you should love to have on your 2nd line. But has reportedly been a cancer in multiple locker rooms and has way too much off ice baggage to make him an option IMO. If the pro's outweighed the cons numerous teams would have been chasing him. Not just one and a potential 2nd.

Sorry but the guy should be rebuilding his value in Siberia, not the Siberia of the NHL.

How about let’s guess when Kane scores his first goal with Edmonton?

I say February 9th vs. Chicago at home.

Anyone else?

How about let’s guess when Kane scores his first goal with Edmonton?

I say February 9th vs. Chicago at home.

Anyone else?
- Tee56

First shift. Maybe this Saturday. Hope he's first star too. Then hope McDavid and Drai and Nurse talk about how great he's been in the room. Then watch "fans" come crawling back.

Yeah, the 'unjust persecution of a black player' narrative seemed like it could be a plausible direction for the more progressive types to go. Seems the criminal allegations overshadowed that possibility.
- MaximumBone

I honestly think that's the case for the gambling. I mentioned it before, but Jaromir Jagr is absolutely loved, despite the gambling problems.

What a company says and does are 2 different things. $17.50 is likely their wage after a 6 month trial. and that bonus, it is after at least 1 year minimum, probably longer. Tho I do agree with majority of your other points in this post. When I was 20 minimum wage was $5.50/hr. I pumped gas, washed dishes, bussed tables, flipped burgers, delivered newspapers, and sold popcorn/ice cream/pop at the arena all before I was 20. No longer do you often see a 13-19 year old kid doing any of that. And when I do see a kid working to earn their take, I reward them. I will flip them an extra tip to help them out a little more. But even all those positions are being replaced by adults now. I haven't seen a kid walking up and down aisles at a game yelling "popcorn heeeeere" since the 90s. When was the last time you saw a "paper boy?" Even majority at a McDonald's aren't 14-18 anymore, they're 20-22. When was the last time you went to a gas station and you got full service from some 16 year old kid just trying to buy his first car? Meanwhile some smart ones are creating YT channels about gaming. TikTok about dances. creating a online following for some random thing making more than a lot of 35-50 year olds are making working their a's off with post secondary degrees.

And I am "CONSERVATIVE" as (frank) and am completely against the Kane signing. I voted Kenney last election and would again if we were to have one tomorrow. Not that I would be voting for Kenney, but the party he represents and its constant values. If Alberta voted the NDP in last election all bars/restaurants/gyms/Salons/barbers/ect would have been shut down this entire time. I personally enjoy going out for a beer and watching a game once in a while. Or getting my haircut. or anything that allows me to interact with other people. And allowing some of the "smaller people" being able to survive.
- wreckage

Honestly, with how big eSports are becoming, kids have a great opportunity to play video games professionally. There's a ton of teenagers playing at the highest level of Rocket League and honestly it's cool to see, because anyone can do it.

I honestly think that's the case for the gambling. I mentioned it before, but Jaromir Jagr is absolutely loved, despite the gambling problems.
- Oilers4Life14

Patrik Kane was accused of rape...but those charges were eventually dismissed due to lack of evidence. Evander Kane's charges were also dismissed due to lack of evidence and his wife being considered not being a credible witness. See any similarities. Oh wait, both rich guys. Right. Carry on.

Sup? Though, I guess if you're referring to 'Liberal' in the sense of the political party, I definitely don't qualify.

You can have your strong negative reaction to the signing but stop dragging everything into the realm of politics. That's a behaviour that should be relegated to the cesspool of self-centered, mental deficients on Twitter. Given your disparaging of a foundational aspect of Western society as if it holds no significant meaning, perhaps that's where you ought to be.
- MaximumBone

Liberals (or leftist) tend to be more outspoken about social issues. Being accused of multiple cases of domestic assault tends to conflict with morals. Dunno about you, but I'm not going to go against everything I stand for, just for the Oilers to potentially make the playoffs.

Kane helps the forward core, but even in terms of a hockey contract, that (frank)s them over significantly. 2.1m against the cap when this team desperately needs better defensemen.

Honestly, with how big eSports are becoming, kids have a great opportunity to play video games professionally. There's a ton of teenagers playing at the highest level of Rocket League and honestly it's cool to see, because anyone can do it.
- Oilers4Life14

Much like sport, there is likely a pretty high 'mental processing speed' threshold needed to be able to compete at these levels. This wouldn't necessitate that everyone that plays at a high level is a genius as this would only be one dimension of one's mental faculties and it can be trained to some extent, but I don't think it's correct to say anyone can do it.

In fact, if I were putting money on it, I'd predict that innate mental faculties are more influential in pro gaming than in elite sport.

Patrik Kane was accused of rape...but those charges were eventually dismissed due to lack of evidence. Evander Kane's charges were also dismissed due to lack of evidence and his wife being considered not being a credible witness. See any similarities. Oh wait, both rich guys. Right. Carry on.
- HockeyBuzzed

Again, you're neglecting the three other accusations, which is key.

If it's one woman making the claim, there's a chance it's for money or clout, etc.

If it's FOUR women making a claim of domestic assault/sexual assault, there's a pattern.

Also Patrick Kane is a (frank)ing douche as well, for numerous reasons. Punching a cab driver and being part of the leadership group when Kyle Beach was being sexually assaulted.