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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Shaking up the lines and looking for non-rentals?? Leafs vs. Ducks
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 27 @ 10:41 AM ET
I'd have to look again, but I thought he was trying to ice it off the boards (so his angle was over to the blue line boards), and it was a panic play. If he doesn't rush the puck a Duck probably jams it in. It was unfortunate. I'm not giving him too much grief over it.
- Monkeypunk


Leafs were dominating, I believe the shots were 11-2 at the time. He shot it up the middle and it went off Spezza's skate or leg straight in if I recall correctly. Had he shot it up the boards (to his right) the worst case would have been a deflection to the corner
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jan 27 @ 10:45 AM ET
The Ducks reportedly offered Gibson straight up for Eichel. Age offset by injury & contract savings.

But the Sabres with their great goaltending said no. Thank goodness.

- dozerD10


Sabres said no? Oh man that's crazy but good for you as a Ducks fan.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 10:51 AM ET
I'm not saying or arguing that Freddy post 2018 was anything like 2016-2018 Freddy I just got a chuckle out of the fact the goals against were 3 on 19 shots give or take and it wasn't mentioned at all remembering how important those types of things seemed to be pre Campbell is all.

Don't get me wrong I'm a Campbell fan (hell I am going to buy a signed picture for my bar wall) but I'm a bit worried right now.

Campbell has not been the same guy we have all known and fallen in love with in his last 5 starts. He's given up 5 goals in 3 of those games and has a save % below 900 in 4 of 5 of those games. The save % numbers are the most concerning for me.

I think he is tired and perhaps the weird schedule with cancellations etc. is making it hard to get into a groove or routine but I hope he bounces back to the all star level performance we know he's capable of. He's played a lot of games already this year, (30 in fact) and his career high is 31 with LA back in 18/19 so I really hope they can get him the rest he needs over the next while because the Leafs need all star Soupy for the playoffs - same as they needed all star level Freddy.

They really need Mrazek to stay healthy and share the load with this stupid compressed schedule they have coming up.

- Cush29


Absolutely. I share your thinking. He's never started this many games (that 31 game season, he started 25 of them; this year he's started 29) and in short succession. I think Mrazek can be an effective backup, but like all goalies he needs to get his confidence going and to do that he needs to play.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
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Jan 27 @ 10:52 AM ET
The Ducks reportedly offered Gibson straight up for Eichel. Age offset by injury & contract savings.

But the Sabres with their great goaltending said no. Thank goodness.

- dozerD10


Gibson is excellent and on a team favorable deal. Ducks have lots of cap room for next year. Not sure if Drysdale will be as good as Makar, but he looks pretty impressive at this point. If that deal was available, it would have been way better than what the Sabres got for Eichel.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
The Ducks reportedly offered Gibson straight up for Eichel. Age offset by injury & contract savings.

But the Sabres with their great goaltending said no. Thank goodness.

- dozerD10


I didn't realize how well Stolarz was doing. I was wondering how affected the Ducks' surprisingly good season would have been with Gibson absent - but Stolarz has almost the same numbers.

I never thought he was that good, but I guess it makes sense that he is, because Edmonton gave up on him.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:08 AM ET
The Ducks reportedly offered Gibson straight up for Eichel. Age offset by injury & contract savings.

But the Sabres with their great goaltending said no. Thank goodness.

- dozerD10


I wouldnt have taken that offer either
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
I wouldnt have taken that offer either
- senstroll



I would have. Gibson is an elite goalie.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
I'm not saying or arguing that Freddy post 2018 was anything like 2016-2018 Freddy I just got a chuckle out of the fact the goals against were 3 on 19 shots give or take and it wasn't mentioned at all remembering how important those types of things seemed to be pre Campbell is all.

Don't get me wrong I'm a Campbell fan (hell I am going to buy a signed picture for my bar wall) but I'm a bit worried right now.

Campbell has not been the same guy we have all known and fallen in love with in his last 5 starts. He's given up 5 goals in 3 of those games and has a save % below 900 in 4 of 5 of those games. The save % numbers are the most concerning for me.

I think he is tired and perhaps the weird schedule with cancellations etc. is making it hard to get into a groove or routine but I hope he bounces back to the all star level performance we know he's capable of. He's played a lot of games already this year, (30 in fact) and his career high is 31 with LA back in 18/19 so I really hope they can get him the rest he needs over the next while because the Leafs need all star Soupy for the playoffs - same as they needed all star level Freddy.

They really need Mrazek to stay healthy and share the load with this stupid compressed schedule they have coming up.

- Cush29

Freddie: .927 SV%, 2.06 GAA

Campbell: .926 SV%, 2.26 GAA

Garret Sparks: .936 SV%, 1.85 GAA

Discuss
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:24 AM ET
Freddie: .927 SV%, 2.06 GAA

Campbell: .926 SV%, 2.26 GAA

Garret Sparks: .936 SV%, 1.85 GAA

Discuss

- Atomic Wedgie

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:25 AM ET
Would you rather give up Liljegren or one of the top prospects in a trade?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 27 @ 11:26 AM ET
Would you rather give up Liljegren or one of the top prospects in a trade?
- Santo_44

Don't you need top prospects to trade them?
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:26 AM ET
Freddie: .927 SV%, 2.06 GAA

Campbell: .926 SV%, 2.26 GAA

Garret Sparks: .936 SV%, 1.85 GAA

Discuss

- Atomic Wedgie


Clearly the Leafs need to make a trade to get Garret Sparks back. D'uh.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:27 AM ET
Don't you need top prospects to trade them?
- Atomic Wedgie


I already disagree with you there, and so does every ranking. So you can stand alone on that island of yours. Enjoy the sun
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
Would you rather give up Liljegren or one of the top prospects in a trade?
- Santo_44



probably a prospect. We need all the serviceable players right now, otherwise they'll be trading for a depth dman for insurance for the playoffs anyway.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
I already disagree with you there, and so does every ranking. So you can stand alone on that island of yours. Enjoy the sun
- Santo_44



i think the Athletic, actually just came out this morning ranking the Leafs prospect base 17th.

Nothing great, but given they're a top team right now, that's not terrible.

They're really aren't any A list guys.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
i think the Athletic, actually just came out this morning ranking the Leafs prospect base 17th.

Nothing great, but given they're a top team right now, that's not terrible.

They're really aren't any A list guys.

- prock

I've said it before, they have done a good job building their pool with being a top team for 5 years and not having a couple 1sts from Foligno and Marleau.

A list as in elite prospects? No.

But a few top prospects at the top? Absolutely. Knies and Robertson have upped their value from their 2nd round spots. Niemela as well.

Also it was ranked number 15
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
i think the Athletic, actually just came out this morning ranking the Leafs prospect base 17th.

Nothing great, but given they're a top team right now, that's not terrible.

They're really aren't any A list guys.

- prock


only 1 first round pick in the last 3 years will do that to a team
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
probably a prospect. We need all the serviceable players right now, otherwise they'll be trading for a depth dman for insurance for the playoffs anyway.
- prock


Depends on what the other team wants for me.

I am fine with using any of them. Knies and Niemela are the ones I want to keep when it comes down to it though.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
only 1 first round pick in the last 3 years will do that to a team
- PatC80



yes, of course it will.

I wasn't trying to argue, was just really pointing out, the Leafs prospect pool is rather mediocre. Not terrible, as some will try to claim, not great either.

And yeah, they haven't done a bad job in getting value with their picks.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:42 AM ET
yes, of course it will.

I wasn't trying to argue, was just really pointing out, the Leafs prospect pool is rather mediocre. Not terrible, as some will try to claim, not great either.

And yeah, they haven't done a bad job in getting value with their picks.

- prock


Number 15 is pretty good when you are competing with teams who have had multiple high 1sts and 2nd round picks.

I really don't think you can get much higher than 10 if you are a team who has been consistently been a top 10 team in the standings the past 5 years.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:43 AM ET
Let the good times roll
Let them make you BeLeaf
Let them throw you up in the air
Let them brush your Nylander hair

Let the good times roll
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:45 AM ET
I would have. Gibson is an elite goalie.
- prock


*was
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
Kevin Papetti
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The Flyers seriously said "we were horrible defensively last year" then went out and acquired Rasmus Ristolainen and Keith Yandle

Kevin Papetti
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Just wanted to check in on the Flyers fans that were in my mentions back in July.

How are things?!


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haha... Risto is horrible
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
yes, of course it will.

I wasn't trying to argue, was just really pointing out, the Leafs prospect pool is rather mediocre. Not terrible, as some will try to claim, not great either.

And yeah, they haven't done a bad job in getting value with their picks.

- prock


I agree. It's just okay.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
yes, of course it will.

I wasn't trying to argue, was just really pointing out, the Leafs prospect pool is rather mediocre. Not terrible, as some will try to claim, not great either.

And yeah, they haven't done a bad job in getting value with their picks.

- prock


I think we all feel the same way: There are some good pieces, but no one is elite. There are guys who may be 2nd line guys, or second pairing guys, but they aren't exactly top line or first pairing guys (someone like Knies or Niemela or Robertson might play there, but their skills alone won't be what drives the line, they'll compliment other better players). We might find value from any of Hirvonen, Abruzzese, Abramaov, and I still like Voit a fair bit as well - but no one is there knocking your socks off.
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