Yeah, all over your face.
- JRR1285

MDWs face

To be fair, it would be better if we could get some additional secondary scoring and one more true shutdown dman. That said, the team’s secondary scoring has been completed by an all hands on deck approach with clutch goals by all. And the groans about Nemeth and, particularly, Miller are overblown.
- Bean_Dip

I haven't complained about Miller. The one thing people aren't saying, its not a coincidence that Trouba is having his career year paired with Miller. Chemistry is a big thing in hockey

Yeah, all over your face.
- JRR1285

To be fair, it would be better if we could get some additional secondary scoring and one more true shutdown dman. That said, the team’s secondary scoring has been completed by an all hands on deck approach with clutch goals by all. And the groans about Nemeth and, particularly, Miller are overblown.
- Bean_Dip

Agree about Miller but Nemeth is (frank)ing awful and has to go.

I haven't complained about Miller. The one thing people aren't saying, its not a coincidence that Trouba is having his career year paired with Miller. Chemistry is a big thing in hockey
- TPC

Trouba has been playing pissed off all year and its awesome

fixed
- TPC

Kreider and Hayes reunited. You just jealous.

- jimbro83

Is that a real scene?

Don’t understand how anyone can be upset by that. It’s been a few years now of talking about a rebuild. By most measures the team did a great job completing a quick turnaround. Now is the time to make a run.

And you know what? If it doesn’t work out this year or next and the team needs to continue the rebuild…so be it! They can always go back to selling assets for futures. Failing in going for it leads right back to where people want them to stay put.
- Bean_Dip

All of our assets now have NMC, CK20, Panarin, Zib, Trouba, Fox, Lingren, Goodrow. cant sell them. Strome is a FA. The Hunts, Rooneys and Reaves have little trade value. Whats left are the kids who have under performed so far.

If Chytil, KK and Laffy have shown some progress and produced, most definitely go for it. Miller hasnt built on his good rookie campaign. 5/6 slots on defense hasnt been good at all.

Is that a real scene?
- JRR1285

yep lol

Trouba has been playing pissed off all year and its awesome
- jimbro83

Trouba has been excellent. Nothing to complain about there.

Kreider and Hayes reunited. You just jealous.


- mdw7413

Honestly I liked Hayes in the past but he just seems like he is breaking down. Non stop injuries the last year and a half and that contract is pretty bad right now. He was never a fast skater to begin with, just don't see him ending well over the last 5 years or so of that deal. When healthy he def can help a team but I just don't know if he can stay it

Trouba has been excellent. Nothing to complain about there.
- JRR1285

I just remember all offseason how every other post was "how fast can we get rid of Kreider and Trouba"

Honestly I liked Hayes in the past but he just seems like he is breaking down. Non stop injuries the last year and a half and that contract is pretty bad right now. He was never a fast skater to begin with, just don't see him ending well over the last 5 years or so of that deal. When healthy he def can help a team but I just don't know if he can stay it
- TPC

if he played like Keith Yandle, who played the game like he would get in trouble if he got his jersey dirty, he would get injured less often

Honestly I liked Hayes in the past but he just seems like he is breaking down. Non stop injuries the last year and a half and that contract is pretty bad right now. He was never a fast skater to begin with, just don't see him ending well over the last 5 years or so of that deal. When healthy he def can help a team but I just don't know if he can stay it
- TPC

I don't think Hayes was THAT slow and he is great at possession. That being said, he has not even remotely lived up to that monster contract. I wouldn't even consider adding him to this team and I was a huge Hayes fan and upset to see him go.

Honestly I liked Hayes in the past but he just seems like he is breaking down. Non stop injuries the last year and a half and that contract is pretty bad right now. He was never a fast skater to begin with, just don't see him ending well over the last 5 years or so of that deal. When healthy he def can help a team but I just don't know if he can stay it
- TPC

Yeah, the contract stinks. If Philly retained 1/2 for the life of the contract I would probably do it. Pretty cheap for a 3rd line center. Injuries would be a concern

if he played like Keith Yandle, who played the game like he would get in trouble if he got his jersey dirty, he would get injured less often
- jimbro83

Iron man Keith Yandle

I just remember all offseason how every other post was "how fast can we get rid of Kreider and Trouba"
- TPC

I understood it from a money standpoint to an extent but it was never gonna happen. Now they are two of the most important players on the roster.

if he played like Keith Yandle, who played the game like he would get in trouble if he got his jersey dirty, he would get injured less often
- jimbro83

Agree about Miller but Nemeth is (frank)ing awful and has to go.
- JRR1285

How awful is he, really? The team is 6th in the league in GA. He’s on the third pair and plays on one of the best pk units in the league. He’s no Lindstrom, but he’s also no Hamrlik.

Iron man Kieth Yandle
- TPC

somebody less lame has got to someday break that record

somebody less lame has got to someday break that record
- jimbro83

Hot Dog loving Kessel is only like 40 games behind him I think...it's happening

That’s all fair. But the cap space for this year is available. I can’t imagine Drury doesn’t see the same points you point out.

If he can plug holes without truly emptying the cupboard (I’m thinking one high end prospect and the first), is that something you could get down with?
- Bean_Dip

Most definitely!! But think about the cost of a JT Miller. he isnt on an expiring contract and would cost more than a first, Chytil and Kravs possibly?? Hertl? I would think somewhere around the same price. Then you still need to add a 5/6 d man and still have to hope the third and forth line starts to produce.

Hot Dog loving Kessel is only like 40 games behind him I think...it's happening
- TPC

Kessel is just a smidge less lame than Yandle

Most definitely!! But think about the cost of a JT Miller. he isnt on an expiring contract and would cost more than a first, Chytil and Kravs possibly?? Hertl? I would think somewhere around the same price. Then you still need to add a 5/6 d man and still have to hope the third and forth line starts to produce.
- Brukie

I’m not going to get into speculation on who the targets are. None of us are going to be able to predict that outcome.

But the areas to improve are clear. The assets are available. The cap is plentiful. There’s going to be some trades.

PS - that trade for Miller doesn’t sound bad to me at all

I’m not going to get into speculation on who the targets are. None of us are going to be able to predict that outcome.

But the areas to improve are clear. The assets are available. The cap is plentiful. There’s going to be some trades.

PS - that trade for Miller doesn’t sound bad to me at all
- Bean_Dip

Miller is my number 1 target