3 days ago, youre plan was to elevate Fletch
everything you stated existed 3 days ago, now drastic course change
- THE BLACK HAND

Exactly, just a few days ago. Fletcher stays as the President of Hockey operations and they bring in a new GM. He called anyone thinking that Fletcher is going to go hysterically delusional.

Ahh the Internet where people argue against things you didn’t say
- MJL

When I pointed out Toronto rebuilt during Hextall’s era you stated it helped drafting elite players Marner and Matthews and then you said in a separate post that the quality of players the Flyers drafted from their draft position was about the best a team can expect. So by the simple act of deduction if you need elite players to win a cup and the Flyers can’t get them from middle 1st round draft picks but Toronto can at the top of the draft, seems like an argument for tanking.

You all keep blaming this GM or that GM, Bad trade this bad pick that.
What difference does it make.
We suck today.

How about solutions rather then continuing to look up a dead dogs A$$ about past GMs and a wiener measuring contest to who comes up with the best evidence that
someone is great or not great.
- konalover711

We all know we need to be sellers but what kind of confidence do you have in The organization if Fletcher is still the one making these decisions? I think we need to sell at the deadline, make a trade or two in the summer for players you don’t see a future here, and ice a pretty bad team for 2-3 years. Evaluate what kind of talent you get from drafting high and assess the best way to move forward.

Can anyone please direct me to the link or site that will carry todays load of stoic meaningless drivel corporate hockey speak that is supposed to be a press conference . I want to finish my 2nd cup of coffee so I dont throw the mug at the device and break it while I am cursing at it and the words being spoken.

The problem was paying him 7 million with term. I’m not sure which is worse…Hayes or JVR? The Flyers seem to reach or over pay in FA signings. These blunders hurt.
- landros 2

Per @TSN_Sports Senior Hockey Reporter @frank_seravalli on #SnowTheGoalie with @AntSanPhilly and @JoyOnBroad, #Flyers center Kevin Hayes told another player he would only sign with the @NHLFlyers if they overpaid him.

Can anyone please direct me to the link or site that will carry todays load of stoic meaningless drivel corporate hockey speak that is supposed to be a press conference . I want to finish my 2nd cup of coffee so I dont throw the mug at the device and break it while I am cursing at it and the words being spoken.
- RajaAmpat

I think it will be carried by Comedy Central.

If this was the case and he knew that, he would have traded off the jakes and Simmers immediately for assets. There is no way to justify picking around #15-20 and signing a guy like JVR when rebuilding. This tells me he thought the team was beginning to take the next steps. He sucked, Fletcher sucks worse, and the organization is the worst of them all.
- ClaudeFather

Hextall was not going to do a complete tank and trade off everyone. In my opinion, he signed JVR to appease upper management. When looking at his moves as a whole, it was clear that he did not think the team was ready for the next step. Hextall was not perfect and he was not great. However his approach was the correct one for the team to take. They need to return to that approach.

Can anyone please direct me to the link or site that will carry todays load of stoic meaningless drivel corporate hockey speak that is supposed to be a press conference . I want to finish my 2nd cup of coffee so I dont throw the mug at the device and break it while I am cursing at it and the words being spoken.
- RajaAmpat

Im pretty sure 97.5 the fanatic will air the presser

Go on youtube and search for the anthony gargano live stream

I think it will be carried by Comedy Central.
- PLindbergh31

If Peter Chiarelli can get a second chance then Hextall deserves one as well.
- landros 2

Didn't PC win a cup in Beantown? That is not much of a stretch to get another bite at the apple. It isn't like the 2nd chance given to the guy who traded Brent Burns away for what turned out to be nothing. But hey, it isn't like he has gone on to lead a franchise to its longest losing streak in organization history. Oh, wait. That's right ...

When I pointed out Toronto rebuilt during Hextall’s era you stated it helped drafting elite players Marner and Matthews and then you said in a separate post that the quality of players the Flyers drafted from their draft position was about the best a team can expect. So by the simple act of deduction if you need elite players to win a cup and the Flyers can’t get them from middle 1st round draft picks but Toronto can at the top of the draft, seems like an argument for tanking.
- psuhockey

I don't and have never disputed that the best way to acquire elite talent is with top draft picks. I don't endorse tanking to do so and I don't want the team I root for to take that approach.

I think it will be carried by Comedy Central.
- PLindbergh31

LOL. If not there, then maybe on the soap opera channel.

Hextall was not going to do a complete tank and trade off everyone. In my opinion, he signed JVR to appease upper management. When looking at his moves as a whole, it was clear that he did not think the team was ready for the next step. Hextall was not perfect and he was not great. However his approach was the correct one for the team to take. They need to return to that approach.
- MJL

They need to ice a bad hockey team for a couple of years and then begin a Hextall like approach. Slowly improve and sign free agents at the right time.

Well he wasn't a Saint Ronnie pick so I get your silly response.
- hello it's me 2050

Is it silly to use the same standard to this Russian that you applied to Ersson and Fedotov?

Toronto got rebuilt during Hextall’s time. So that’s one team that did it.

How long do most top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen play in the AHL league wide? The answer will surprise you (less than a year) but I guess the Flyers prospects just need way more time then other teams. Or perhaps they aren’t good enough.

Hextall had 42 picks in those 5 drafts with 8 first rounders (2 in the top 10 plus another lottery pick) and 6 second rounders (5 being in the top 50). If you think getting 10 NHLers, none of the skaters being top line players by the way, is good drafting then no wonder you think Hextall just needed more time.

And again you as an anti tanker refer to only Edmonton or Buffalo yet never mention Pittsburgh, Washington, Chicago, LA and Tampa. The only team, just one team, to win a Stanley Cup without top 5 picks in the last 13 years was Boston. One team. St Louis got Pietrangelo at 4th overall and he played kind of a big role in their Stanley cup win. And how did Boston do it: they did it with two unicorn free agents who actually got better in the 30’s than they were in their 20’s. Do you think that’s a reproducible model compared to the other tanking teams that have won 11 of the last 13 Stanley cups?
- psuhockey

1. It's really hard to play against the odds (draft middle to late) and get quality within a short time. I think through casual observation, that Hextall's draft record is average for where he picked.
2. When did you steal my account, bro?

They need to ice a bad hockey team for a couple of years and then begin a Hextall like approach. Slowly improve and sign free agents at the right time.
- ClaudeFather

They're not icing a bad team now? Slowly improve is correct. However the team is now hamstrung with more older players and high cap hit contracts. Hopefully they're smart to move on from a player like Ristolainen and move Giroux and to get some assets.

I don't and have never disputed that the best way to acquire elite talent is with top draft picks. I don't endorse tanking to do so and I don't want the team I root for to take that approach.
- MJL

That’s fine but then you are ok with perpetual mediocrity like the Flyers have been in for the past decade or hope that they get extremely lucky and draft elite players where they are seldom found which this franchise has not done since 2006. There is no third option by your own admission.

I do believe a team will take him, and if not he should be bought out. The problem with the JVR signing is the team didn't need him at that time, they were not ready, and he was the wrong player to spend that kind of money on. He was a liability from day one, and Toronto knew this which is why they let him walk.
- jd250

Not a chance they should buy him out. We aren't going anywhere next year, there is no rush to buy him out, we wont need the cap space. Let him ride out that horrible contract ronnie signed him to while we were in rebuild mode.

You all keep blaming this GM or that GM, Bad trade this bad pick that.
What difference does it make.
We suck today.

How about solutions rather then continuing to look up a dead dogs A$$ about past GMs and a wiener measuring contest to who comes up with the best evidence that
someone is great or not great.
- konalover711

In the mood for a hot dog now. Double banger on an Italian roll. Onions relish Sauerkraut.
Hot dog stand in ridley on macdade.


Back to solutions. There is an easy solution which will not happen. Clean house start fresh.

Am I right in assuming there is supposed to be another Fletch press conference today?


edit: NM

I assumed yesterday was the press conference when they announced the new Coach.

Not a chance they should buy him out. We aren't going anywhere next year, there is no rush to buy him out, we wont need the cap space. Let him ride out that horrible contract ronnie signed him to while we were in rebuild mode.
- bradster

Yeah we don't need that extra year of dead cap. Trade him or ride out the last year.

They're not icing a bad team now? Slowly improve is correct. However the team is now hamstrung with more older players and high cap hit contracts. Hopefully they're smart to move on from a player like Ristolainen and move Giroux and to get some assets.
- MJL

Yes, they are. So you add in high draft picks from the next two years as well and you have the beginning of a good prospect pool. It’s also two years off those contracts and like you said, these things take time. This team won’t be competing for anything for at least 5 years. Those contracts won’t be so bad.

I think it will be carried by Comedy Central.
- PLindbergh31

More like an impending murder mystery

In the mood for a hot dog now. Double banger on an Italian roll. Onions relish Sauerkraut.
Hot dog stand in ridley on macdade.


Back to solutions. There is an easy solution which will not happen. Clean house start fresh.
- hello it's me 2050[/quote]
This gets my vote. As does the hot dog.

Per @TSN_Sports Senior Hockey Reporter @frank_seravalli on #SnowTheGoalie with @AntSanPhilly and @JoyOnBroad, #Flyers center Kevin Hayes told another player he would only sign with the @NHLFlyers if they overpaid him.
- Flyers_01

These guys it seems have an axe to grind with the flyers. Maybe Bill has some insight to that.

That being said it was a clear overpay. In term and money. So they are not breaking any real story imo.

Flyers are not a prime destination.