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FlyerFan3260
Location: MAGA
Joined: 09.28.2020

Jan 25 @ 2:04 PM ET
I would agree that Bill has struggled a bit here this season. The fans are not to blame for the condition of this team right now and they are right to second guess every single move. We do pay their salaries of course.
- Joe Nardone


I don’t care about the salaries, but it’s clear the relationship with the team, and its longtime fans has been damaged.

He isn’t the only one, as the youngster in O’Connor does something similar when people press the media to make the team more accountable.

I’d appreciate more tact, and maybe having having the gall to take the team to task in the same way instead of fans of this team.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jan 25 @ 2:04 PM ET
Remember who the flyers GM is, he rarely wins a trade.
- hello it's me 2050


I still don’t think he gets the opp at the deadline. I think he is out by next week.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:05 PM ET
He won’t dare to criticize the country club. The alumni. As they got him his position.

Instead out to personally attack fans of the team? As a partial employee of said franchise?

Bootlicker. I expected better. Is it perhaps because not as many people buy the propaganda that this team tries to shovel its fanbase?

- FlyerFan3260


Performative internet tough guy grandstanding
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 25 @ 2:06 PM ET
For the same reason people obsessed over Amac... despite all the blocked shots, he was a terrible defender.
- Tomahawk


Our biggest issue right now is scoring goals, but everyone wants to whine about RR
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 25 @ 2:08 PM ET
For the same reason people obsessed over Amac... despite all the blocked shots, he was a terrible defender.
- Tomahawk

Sanheim isn’t that good
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:10 PM ET
Performative internet tough guy grandstanding
- Scoob



hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 25 @ 2:11 PM ET
I still don’t think he gets the opp at the deadline. I think he is out by next week.
- Joe Nardone

Not a chance imo.

Only way it happens is if Scott gets a message from above him to clean house. Otherwise Fletcher has already stated his case with injuries and the like to return. Scott will confer with his confidants and buy right into it is my guess.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 25 @ 2:15 PM ET
Our biggest issue right now is scoring goals, but everyone wants to whine about RR
- bradster


They're dead last in the league in high danger chances allowed per.
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Jan 25 @ 2:15 PM ET
He won’t dare to criticize the country club. The alumni. As they got him his position.

Instead out to personally attack fans of the team? As a partial employee of said franchise?

Bootlicker. I expected better. Is it perhaps because not as many people buy the propaganda that this team tries to shovel its fanbase?

- FlyerFan3260


No, it's that people react irrationally when confronted with facts that directly lay bare their firmly held beliefs.

Your reaction is an example.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
They're dead last in the league in high danger chances allowed per.
- Tomahawk


thats awesome, how many times have they scored more than 2 goals the last month or two?
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
thats awesome, how many times have they scored more than 2 goals the last month or two?
- bradster


Team has A LOT of problems. We should be complaining about them all.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jan 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
I still don’t think he gets the opp at the deadline. I think he is out by next week.
- Joe Nardone


Hope springs eternal but I think our ownership/leadership is locked in. Maybe we should change the team name to the groundlings for the foreseeable future.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
Team has A LOT of problems. We should be complaining about them all.
- Tomahawk


agreed, be alot easier to talk about what isnt a problem with this team lol
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
Team has A LOT of problems. We should be complaining about them all.
- Tomahawk


Nope, you can only complain about one specific problem in a vacuum. Beat that problem to death. And then you can bring up something else related or not.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
agreed, be alot easier to talk about what isnt a problem with this team lol
- bradster




Probably not.

What isn't a problem?


See? Not so easy huh?
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jan 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
thats awesome, how many times have they scored more than 2 goals the last month or two?
- bradster


I don't think anyone is discounting that we are offensively challenged right now. Given that isnt it even more imperative to play solid first period D and not go down by the first goal?

I don't dump on Risto on the regular but that mistake was very costly when the team can least afford another kick in the confidence.
FlyerFan3260
Location: MAGA
Joined: 09.28.2020

Jan 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
"Performative internet tough guy grandstanding"
- Scoob


What’s gritty up to these days, my young friend.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
agreed, be alot easier to talk about what isnt a problem with this team lol
- bradster



Carter Hart
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jan 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
Probably not.

What isn't a problem?


See? Not so easy huh?

- MBFlyerfan


You know whoever looks after the skates is doing a good job this year. I dont see alot of skate or goalie equipment issues. He/she should keep up the good work
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:25 PM ET
He won’t dare to criticize the country club. The alumni. As they got him his position.

Instead out to personally attack fans of the team? As a partial employee of said franchise?

Bootlicker. I expected better. Is it perhaps because not as many people buy the propaganda that this team tries to shovel its fanbase?

- FlyerFan3260



The Flyers Alumni are a completely separate matter. They are the gold standard of NHL Alumni Associations. There's nothing there to criticize.

Secondly, I criticize the current team when and where I feel it's merited. In a factual way, without hyperbole or personal attacks. I sleep quite well at night.

Pavel and I have gone back and forth for years, BTW. It's actually nothing personal.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
Carter Hart
- Scoob


good one!
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
Team has A LOT of problems. We should be complaining about them all.
- Tomahawk


that's the point. earlier in the year people were bashing atkinson and talking about jake. weird how that stopped now that cam has more points. Risto is what he is. Not perfect...no. But the battling and physicality he brings imo is needed. Now the argument IMO should be....if we are gonna do another rebuild is it necessary to keep him? But if that's the convo then we need to have it about all the players as well. People whining over what we gave up to get him is not on the player. He has brought what I thought he would. Under those circumstances i can see him being moved. and will imagine there will be a bunch of contending teams interested if we do make him available. No they do not know it all, but the other night on NHL network they were speaking about how his stock has gone up since he came to philly. whether it is agreed upon or disagreed doesn't matter. none of us know what the gm's are thinking.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:30 PM ET
For the same reason people obsessed over Amac... despite all the blocked shots, he was a terrible defender.
- Tomahawk



He's currently a free agent, sitting out there waiting to be signed. Only 35. Just saying...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
You know whoever looks after the skates is doing a good job this year. I dont see alot of skate or goalie equipment issues. He/she should keep up the good work
- bradster




Agreed! Kudos to the sharpener operator!

Did anyone notice the Xfinity logo floating in midair over the game for a short period of time? I think it was supposed to be the one projected on the glass behind the net. They cant even get that right.
FlyerFan3260
Location: MAGA
Joined: 09.28.2020

Jan 25 @ 2:32 PM ET
The Alumni are a completely separate matter. They are the gold standard of NHL Alumni Associations. There's nothing to criticize.

Secondly, I criticize the team when and where I feel it's merited. In a factual way, without hyperbole or personal attacks. I sleep quite well at night.

- bmeltzer


Nothing to criticize? How about members of the Flyers front office/operation staff having taken advantage of Snider’s family approach to the team. Care to explain why certain members seem to have jobs/influence for many years when they should have been fired long ago? We both know which names I am talking about.

I also don’t understand the displeasure at a fan that dares to be critical of them Bill.

The Brendl reference is a not so veiled shot, when valid points were made. It’s not the first time members of the media have taken issue with fans questioning things this season.

It’s a strategy that’s quite amusing for a team that should be very careful about losing more viewership.
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