iamscore2day
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Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: 03.23.2021
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Losing streak: He's already counting tonight as a loss. As for the 12 games, I have addressed it in great length.
Laughing stock franchise": That's an opinion, not a fact. Unlike Pavel, I actually know quite a few people who work in other franchises. The general reaction is disbelief at how things have gotten here. Not mockery.
"Incompetent medical staff": Typicall Pavel bloviating without actual knowledge. Does he know where thre Flyers rank over a multi-year period in terms of total man games lost? The answer, is right about the league norm over the last 5 years or so. There's always room for improvement.
"Clown Show management": The team has struggled in 3 of the last 4 season and there are many reasons for it. - bmeltzer
I think this season is consistent with the inconsistency that the organization has shown over time so I am not sure that I agree that the general reaction has been disbelief. That is not the reaction on NHL network radio.
As for the medical staff, we do seem to have had several players come back from injury this year and then go right back to IR. It does not seem to be an unreasonable question though the phrasing could be worked on. I am not sure that a response that talks to the 5-year average really answers that question.
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Congrats go out to Keith yandle!!!
Flyers might be having a bit of what some may call a “down year”. (So clichê I know lmao). But this landmark is not only a reflection on the player but on the organization and is really what flyer hockey is all about. I’m so glad we get to experience this! |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Ristolainen is as advertised. Completely mediocre. You can get a 3rd pair D man to hit people. His hits as Tomahawk has repeatedly pointed out are often ineffective. In the game last night on one play, He skated hard to make a hit along the boards after the puck was gone, and then casually drifted back and a scoring chance against was created due to his lack of positioning. No reason to resign him. Sanheim is the better player. Unless blown away, I wouldn't trade Provorov. - MJL
Well that's (frank)in generous.
Sorry, by the way.
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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wasn't the new assistant in Chicago when the sexual assault stuff went down? - hello it's me 2050
Yes, but he was one of the only guys who voiced the incident and supported Beach. So he’s a good one. |
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Prov/Sanheim would be the way to go. There's a season's worth of evidence that it works. No idea why they insist on doing dumb poop like playing Braun near 20 mins per night...
York/Risto, Yandle/Risto, York/Braun whatever after that. Doesn't really matter. They just need to start with ONE reliable pairing right now to carry the mail, instead of three dysfunctional pairings. - Tomahawk
I get that they tried the pairing recently, and the results were not as expected. But the results currently are just plain bad. The season is lost in many ways, but both Provy and Sanheim are signed for next season. They are both vets now. Time for them to be told to make it work. They should stay together for the rest of the season unless one of them is out for reasons. Hell and high water is already here. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: No More Tortellini Joined: 02.04.2009
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Ristolainen is as advertised. Completely mediocre. You can get a 3rd pair D man to hit people. His hits as Tomahawk has repeatedly pointed out are often ineffective. In the game last night on one play, He skated hard to make a hit along the boards after the puck was gone, and then casually drifted back and a scoring chance against was created due to his lack of positioning. No reason to resign him. Sanheim is the better player. Unless blown away, I wouldn't trade Provorov. - MJL
It's the same poop that Denis Gauthier used to do... eagerly abandons his defensive responsibilities to go after hits. The crowd loves it, and it makes Risto "noticeable", but it results in a lot of chances/goals against.
Sanheim's left alone a lot in front of the net a lot, and he can't really manage it. That's just not his strength as a player.
They are just a really poop pairing. |
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bradster
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 12.18.2009
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Ristolainen is as advertised. Completely mediocre. You can get a 3rd pair D man to hit people. His hits as Tomahawk has repeatedly pointed out are often ineffective. In the game last night on one play, He skated hard to make a hit along the boards after the puck was gone, and then casually drifted back and a scoring chance against was created due to his lack of positioning. No reason to resign him. Sanheim is the better player. Unless blown away, I wouldn't trade Provorov. - MJL
https://bleacherreport.co...3f-4e47-90bf-286c2df13c69
how many hits did he separate the player from the puck? and the one he didnt the guy forced a shot from the blue line. And which fancy stats keeps track of that impact?
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Tomahawk
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Location: No More Tortellini Joined: 02.04.2009
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I get that they tried the pairing recently, and the results were not as expected. But the results currently are just plain bad. The season is lost in many ways, but both Provy and Sanheim are signed for next season. They are both vets now. Time for them to be told to make it work. They should stay together for the rest of the season unless one of them is out for reasons. Hell and high water is already here. - NC Flyers Fan
From your lips to Yeo's bald ass head. |
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It's the same poop that Denis Gauthier used to do... eagerly abandons his defensive responsibilities to go after hits. The crowd loves it, and it makes Risto "noticeable", but it results in a lot of chances/goals against.
Sanheim's left alone a lot in front of the net a lot, and he can't really manage it. That's just not his strength as a player.
They are just a really poop pairing.  - Tomahawk
That ridiculous pinch when Lindbolm was skating right there with the Star player and leaving Sandheim flat footed to try to cover a breakaway was the epitome of no hockey sense. They cant get rid of him soon enough...I'm just hoping there are enough team's playing "keep up with the Jones's" for the playoff push that we can get some value back. |
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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That ridiculous pinch when Lindbolm was skating right there with the Star player and leaving Sandheim flat footed to try to cover a breakaway was the epitome of no hockey sense. They cant get rid of him soon enough...I'm just hoping there are enough team's playing "keep up with the Jones's" for the playoff push that we can get some value back. - juiced
And leaving Sanheim flat footed lmao he was down by the goal line buddy. Get the F out of here. Sanheim isn’t the player you all think he is, time to wake up and realize it. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: No More Tortellini Joined: 02.04.2009
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That ridiculous pinch when Lindbolm was skating right there with the Star player and leaving Sandheim flat footed to try to cover a breakaway was the epitome of no hockey sense. They cant get rid of him soon enough...I'm just hoping there are enough team's playing "keep up with the Jones's" for the playoff push that we can get some value back. - juiced
Sanheim pinched while TK still had the puck. The entire weak side was open and he was moving to give TK a passing option. Oskar was rotating off the wall high, so he had the green light.
The stupid brain dead move was Risto jumping up at the blueline, not realizing Sanheim had pinched seconds before AND that F3 (Oskar) was right there to attack the puck carrier.
The breakaway was 100% on him.
(for the record, Sanheim played like poop for most of the game. But not on that play) |
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Losing streak: He's already counting tonight as a loss. As for the 12 games, I have addressed it in great length.
Laughing stock franchise": That's an opinion, not a fact. Unlike Pavel, I actually know quite a few people who work in other franchises. The general reaction is disbelief at how things have gotten here. Not mockery.
"Incompetent medical staff": Typicall Pavel bloviating without actual knowledge. Does he know where thre Flyers rank over a multi-year period in terms of total man games lost? The answer, is right about the league norm over the last 5 years or so. There's always room for improvement.
"Clown Show management": The team has struggled in 3 of the last 4 season and there are many reasons for it. - bmeltzer
So would you continue with the management team in place or is there justification for a fresh start with new advisors gm scouts development coaches medical etc.?
No “it’s not my place to decide”
No “ I know and like these guys”
In your Flyers fan heart that you always reference and those of us you read your work believe is true, do you clean house or run it back? |
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https://bleacherreport.com/post/philadelphia-flyers/e0b1ceb0-4e3f-4e47-90bf-286c2df13c69
how many hits did he separate the player from the puck? and the one he didnt the guy forced a shot from the blue line. And which fancy stats keeps track of that impact? - bradster
Doesn’t fit the narrative. I will take his flaws for the positives he brings. Also watch the okayer, battles he has in clearing the porch. No one else on the team can do that. |
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Sanheim pinched while TK still had the puck. The entire weak side was open and he was moving to give TK a passing option. Oskar was rotating off the wall high, so he had the green light.
The stupid brain dead move was Risto jumping up at the blueline, not realizing Sanheim had pinched seconds before AND that F3 (Oskar) was right there to attack the puck carrier.
The breakaway was 100% on him.
(for the record, Sanheim played like poop for most of the game. But not on that play) - Tomahawk
Yes....I meant Risto
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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I’m not gonna let this team ruin my mood nor am I gonna obsess over one player. This Compulsive obsession with Ristolainen is weird. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: No More Tortellini Joined: 02.04.2009
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Yes....I meant Risto - juiced
Haha yeah, sorry, I just realized that |
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Today @ 11:38 AM ET
13 game losing streak, Roasted. Laughing stock franchise, roasted. Half a century cup drought, roasted. Incompetent medical staff, roasted. Clown show management, roasted.
- PLindbergh31
“Let's not play the Cup drought game again and make me show you, yet again, that every team, as it accumulates history, eventually has a very long Cup drought that lasts for multiple decades.
Want to criticize the team's last eight seasons? Sure. Go right ahead. Plenty of fodder. But don't take it back to 1975. Doing so is simple-minded, first-level thinking. It's ignorant of what actually goes into a Cup-winning run and just how narrow the margin really can between a first-round exit and a Cup championship.
When the late Jay Greenberg wrote this it was ostensibly about coaches but could also be applied to GMs, trainers, etc: "In the vast majority of cases, the coaches know what they are doing and are considered idiots on fan boards, social media and in the upper bowl by persons who have little clue." -- https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=95758
That's YOU, Pavel.
The sad part is that you actually DO know hockey and yet, rather than showing that knowledge of the game, you typically prefer to come off like a message board version of Angelo Cataldi; the king of first-level hot takes.”
Bmeltzer
I guess we’re not going to hear any comments about the other 4 points he brought up? - Shrike
He won’t dare to criticize the country club. The alumni. As they got him his position.
Instead out to personally attack fans of the team? As a partial employee of said franchise?
Bootlicker. I expected better. Is it perhaps because not as many people buy the propaganda that this team tries to shovel its fanbase? |
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Haha yeah, sorry, I just realized that  - Tomahawk
NP.....Sandheim was circling back off the pinch but was never going to catch up so I agree Risto had to play the safe move there to live another day.
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Joe Nardone
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Location: Medicine Hat Joined: 07.05.2018
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Ristolainen is as advertised. Completely mediocre. You can get a 3rd pair D man to hit people. His hits as Tomahawk has repeatedly pointed out are often ineffective. In the game last night on one play, He skated hard to make a hit along the boards after the puck was gone, and then casually drifted back and a scoring chance against was created due to his lack of positioning. No reason to resign him. Sanheim is the better player. Unless blown away, I wouldn't trade Provorov. - MJL
If your thought is you would have rather them brought in an fa for a year or two as opposed to trading a 1st for Risto I am 100% onboard, but I am not on board with ignoring a major prob this team has had for years.. they are too soft across the board and especially in front of the net. I think a physical 3rd d pair guy or maybe a Luke Richardson Nick Shultz type to play that number 4 role would be great. Even those guys are not cheap these days, however.
I don’t agree w you on Risto. I did not like that move, but I can at least analyze the player and think in today’s nhl he is a 5 to 6 mill dman. Maybe a little less and can play in the top 4.
I do not believe Sanheim can. That’s my opinion.
His best attribute is his speed, but he does not use it enough to a point where he is effective.
Also the flyers seem to struggle with how to use him. Why does he not ever see number 1 pp time? I’d rather see that then constantly going back to Prov which we all agree is never going to work consistently. Chryst Risto has 4 40 pts seasons. Try him on the number 1 pp. Anything, but constantly going back to a well that is bone dry w Prov on the 1st unit is crazy.
Let’s stop hiding our heads in the sand acting like you can win with Sanheim and Prov in your top 4 unless your other 2 guys are pretty darn special.
Right now Provy is at best a 3 or 4 and Sanheim is maybe a 5.
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bradster
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Joined: 12.18.2009
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Doesn’t fit the narrative. I will take his flaws for the positives he brings. Also watch the okayer, battles he has in clearing the porch. No one else on the team can do that. - Peter Richards
Thats the point, on here you only hear about his flaws and completely ignoring the positives. The good thing is, this is what playoff hockey is all about. Physical.... I would be shocked if we don't get a 1st for him when you look what others players went for in the past.
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Joe Nardone
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Location: Medicine Hat Joined: 07.05.2018
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He won’t dare to criticize the country club. The alumni. As they got him his position.
Instead out to personally attack fans of the team? As a partial employee of said franchise?
Bootlicker. I expected better. Is it perhaps because not as many people buy the propaganda that this team tries to shovel its fanbase? - FlyerFan3260
I would agree that Bill has struggled a bit here this season. The fans are not to blame for the condition of this team right now and they are right to second guess every single move. We do pay their salaries of course. |
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If your thought is you would have rather them brought in an fa for a year or two as opposed to trading a 1st for Risto I am 100% onboard, but I am not on board with ignoring a major prob this team has had for years.. they are too soft across the board and especially in front of the net. I think a physical 3rd d pair guy or maybe a Luke Richardson Nick Shultz type to play that number 4 role would be great. Even those guys are not cheap these days, however.
I don’t agree w you on Risto. I did not like that move, but I can at least analyze the player and think in today’s nhl he is a 5 to 6 mill dman. Maybe a little less and can play in the top 4.
I do not believe Sanheim can. That’s my opinion.
His best attribute is his speed, but he does not use it enough to a point where he is effective.
Also the flyers seem to struggle with how to use him. Why does he not ever see number 1 pp time? I’d rather see that then constantly going back to Prov which we all agree is never going to work consistently. Chryst Risto has 4 40 pts seasons. Try him on the number 1 pp. Anything, but constantly going back to a well that is bone dry w Prov on the 1st unit is crazy.
Let’s stop hiding our heads in the sand acting like you can win with Sanheim and Prov in your top 4 unless your other 2 guys are pretty darn special.
Right now Provy is at best a 3 or 4 and Sanheim is maybe a 5. - Joe Nardone
Maybe it is me I still this as an issue and do not see where RR has done much in that regards. |
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Thats the point, on here you only hear about his flaws and completely ignoring the positives. The good thing is, this is what playoff hockey is all about. Physical.... I would be shocked if we don't get a 1st for him when you look what others players went for in the past. - bradster
Remember who the flyers GM is, he rarely wins a trade.
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If your thought is you would have rather them brought in an fa for a year or two as opposed to trading a 1st for Risto I am 100% onboard, but I am not on board with ignoring a major prob this team has had for years.. they are too soft across the board and especially in front of the net. I think a physical 3rd d pair guy or maybe a Luke Richardson Nick Shultz type to play that number 4 role would be great. Even those guys are not cheap these days, however.
I don’t agree w you on Risto. I did not like that move, but I can at least analyze the player and think in today’s nhl he is a 5 to 6 mill dman. Maybe a little less and can play in the top 4.
I do not believe Sanheim can. That’s my opinion.
His best attribute is his speed, but he does not use it enough to a point where he is effective.
Also the flyers seem to struggle with how to use him. Why does he not ever see number 1 pp time? I’d rather see that then constantly going back to Prov which we all agree is never going to work consistently. Chryst Risto has 4 40 pts seasons. Try him on the number 1 pp. Anything, but constantly going back to a well that is bone dry w Prov on the 1st unit is crazy.
Let’s stop hiding our heads in the sand acting like you can win with Sanheim and Prov in your top 4 unless your other 2 guys are pretty darn special.
Right now Provy is at best a 3 or 4 and Sanheim is maybe a 5. - Joe Nardone
Doesnt matter now but Jani Hakkinpa (huge stay at home RD) was sitting there for the taking in free agency.
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Tomahawk
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Location: No More Tortellini Joined: 02.04.2009
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I’m not gonna let this team ruin my mood nor am I gonna obsess over one player. This Compulsive obsession with Ristolainen is weird. - SuperSchennBros
For the same reason people obsessed over Amac... despite all the blocked shots, he was a terrible defender.
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