Of all the things of learned through all these pages...


I never knew PLind's name was Pavel.....


and lastly, what should be asked at this presser today is what Chuck had for breakfast.
- hockeylover

In Flyer land, all of the villains are Russian.

I like these players and hope they can make the team next year as well, of course, if they can get back on the ice. However I would not look to them to be leaders, its hard enough to make the team and learn how to be a day to day NHL player. I still believe the Flyers have veterans like Ellis, Couts, Atkinson, Provey and Hayes that can provide that leadership, assuming they are still here.
- jd250

Stone cold lock they will be here for a while

I don't agree. Sanheim had moved up to an open spot looking for a cross-ice feed. Risto should have been much more conservative. Maybe he would not have caught Hintz but he could have tried or made a play on the pass while moving back. I don't endorse all of the RR hate on this board, but he made the mistake on that one.
- iamscore2day

If I were Risto there I would have went for the puck also, that was the only play I think he realistically had. Backing up would have accomplished nothing. The way I learned and play the game, the weak side defenseman has to be the one back there on a play like that.

Yes, the Flyers NHL team has been hit hard with injuries, that is absolutely a fact! However, do the Flyers have younger players that can come in and compensate, clearly not! Look at Tampa this past off season, they lost their entire 3rd line but yet they have recovered nicely with a new and younger 3rd line made up entirely of internal prospects. Look at who the Flyers have to play in their lineup right now, those are the best players they have in their system to put in, players like Mayhew, Willman, Frost, Cates, not exactly the young studs were were hoping for! Would it be better if Allison and Laczynski were playing, sure it would. But right now the Flyers opted to play Seeler at 4th line winger instead of Sandin or Bunnaman, what does that tell you?
- jd250

The Flyers opted to play Seeler due to the Phantoms had just played back to back games and any player they called up would be playing 3 games in 3 nights.

Ristolainen wasn't covering anyone. He stood there and watched. Did he take Radulov after Cates fell down? Sanheim had the goal scorer but had to leave him to try and take on an unchecked Radulov. Sanheim got off balance and failed to block the pass. Mayhew failed to cover the shooter. Ristolainen didn't do a dam thing but stand there. 2 Stars basically beat 5 Flyers.
- MJL

Risto was not the issue on that goal at all. The issue is a guy standing next to the goal scorer and he’s not actually covering him, still gets a clean shot off. Believe it’s Mayhew

What prospect in the AHL besides the 2 I mentioned are legit NHL prospects in your opinion?
- hello it's me 2050

Seriously, are you in groundhog mode or what? You know my views. I know your mindset. There is nothing more to learn here.

Of all the things of learned through all these pages...


I never knew PLind's name was Pavel.....


and lastly, what should be asked at this presser today is what Chuck had for breakfast.
- hockeylover

Its a pretty good story behind that.

You're right, its all Risto's fault!!
- jd250

Do you think RR is part of the solution going forward?

Seriously, are you in groundhog mode or what? You know my views. I know your mindset. There is nothing more to learn here.
- iamscore2day

So you have no answers. Just like the other topic you cant admit the AHL prospects are not good. None will help the flyers n the future.

Of all the things of learned through all these pages...


I never knew PLind's name was Pavel.....


and lastly, what should be asked at this presser today is what Chuck had for breakfast.
- hockeylover

I'm hoping Chuck gives his take on Clarke's comments. If this season is going to go down the tubes, at least let us fans have some fun!

Yes, agreed, the Flyers have the opportunity this year and next to get two really good players in the draft, players that should be able to play for this team right away. Plus next year's draft is supposed to be deep so maybe the Flyers finally hit on a 2nd or 3rd round pick like we have been wanting them to. IMO, the Flyers cannot pass this opportunity up in favor of short term solutions that ultimately will not bring them what we all want, a team that can really contend in the today's NHL.
- jd250

I remember the good ole days when 1st round draft picks didn't matter because they'll take 3 years to make it to the NHL.

If I were Risto there I would have went for the puck also, that was the only play I think he realistically had. Backing up would have accomplished nothing. The way I learned and play the game, the weak side defenseman has to be the one back there on a play like that.
- jd250[/quote]
Yes, but when the weakside dman has jumped in, you should be more conservative if you are in RR's position. I think he should have been more aware. I don't blame him for all of our problems but this opportunity for Dallas is a play that he has a lot of responsibility for. Having said that, it was one play that turned out badly. It took about 5 seconds. There was a lot of hockey played afterwards that could have made this less impactful.

Do you think RR is part of the solution going forward?
- hello it's me 2050

Nope, I think the Flyers should trade him at the deadline because I do believe there will be several teams that want him.

So you have no answers. Just like the other topic you cant admit the AHL prospects are not good. None will help the flyers n the future.
- hello it's me 2050

I do have an answer: you just don't like the uncertainty and prefer the security of absolutes even if they lack factual support. We just have different approaches.

[quote=jd250]If I were Risto there I would have went for the puck also, that was the only play I think he realistically had. Backing up would have accomplished nothing. The way I learned and play the game, the weak side defenseman has to be the one back there on a play like that.
- iamscore2day[/quote]
Yes, but when the weakside dman has jumped in, you should be more conservative if you are in RR's position. I think he should have been more aware. I don't blame him for all of our problems but this opportunity for Dallas is a play that he has a lot of responsibility for. Having said that, it was one play that turned out badly. It took about 5 seconds. There was a lot of hockey played afterwards that could have made this less impactful.

Right, if the Flyers actually convert their opportunities we are talking about a good win last night, not nitpicking about who was playing where on the Dallas goals. The Flyers gave up only 2 goals to a good Dallas team, that should not be where we look for fault IMO.

Nope, I think the Flyers should trade him at the deadline because I do believe there will be several teams that want him.
- jd250

So it would be disappointing then if he is resigned. Plus will speak about his character as well imo

what teams do you see interested in him?

I'm hoping Chuck gives his take on Clarke's comments. If this season is going to go down the tubes, at least let us fans have some fun!
- jd250

I see it going exactly how Bill described it on page 1. A lot of nothing in reality.

At this point I want the Flyers to pick as high as they can because I think they might be able to get either a future top pairing defenseman or a really good forward prospect that can play in the NHL sooner rather than later. I am not sold on Shane Knight as the best player, so to me this draft looks a lot like the 2017 draft in that there is no clear player above anyone else, thus there may be a really good player available in the top 5 for the Flyers to get.
- jd250

But are you sold on Shane Wright?

I remember the good ole days when 1st round draft picks didn't matter because they'll take 3 years to make it to the NHL.
- MJL

Tell me, which players drafted in the 2021 draft are playing in the NHL right now? Isn't it true that some drafts are deeper and better than others?

Nope, I think the Flyers should trade him at the deadline because I do believe there will be several teams that want him.
- jd250

I hate to give away size and speed because of shortcomings that could be fixed. I am in favor of a group that can actually assess talent being brought in to make this decision. I have no confidence in Chuckles and company.

I do have an answer: you just don't like the uncertainty and prefer the security of absolutes even if they lack factual support. We just have different approaches.
- iamscore2day

Factual support is their AHL play is it not? What other support do you need?

Maybe Matthew Strome will have that breakout year.

But are you sold on Shane Wright?
- landros 2

Thanks! Sorry.

Knight ... Wright .. that is how much I think of him.

Risto had no choice on that play, he had to pinch and try to regain puck possession. If Risto backed off Hintz would have been off to the races regardless. The question I have is what the heck was Sanheim doing on the other side of the ice? As the weak side defenseman, as soon as there is even a chance of a turnover Sanheim should have moved back and closer to center ice but his reaction was slow and he was not a factor in defending that play. Good defense happens in layers and on that play there was no puck support or layers in place.
- jd250

It looked like a set play to me. As soon as TK got control of the puck you can see Sanheim start to go back door. That break away really is on TK for turning the puck over. Or maybe the coaching staff.

You're right, its all Risto's fault!!
- jd250

Reading comprehension issue? I clearly stated that Mayhew failed to take the shooter and Sanheim didn't block the pass.

Right, if the Flyers actually convert their opportunities we are talking about a good win last night, not nitpicking about who was playing where on the Dallas goals. The Flyers gave up only 2 goals to a good Dallas team, that should not be where we look for fault IMO.
- jd250

Not an unfair take. Bad plays happen but you need to find a way to overcome them. I actually fault Yeo more for not juggling his lines. A Frost/Laughton swap could have made a difference.