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BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Jan 24 @ 4:28 PM ET
I'm expecting Yandle to get a thunderous 2 minute standing ovation for tying the record tonight. The fans will acknowledge what a tremendous accomplishment this is.
- PLindbergh31


And then boo when he turns the puck over on his first shift.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 24 @ 4:31 PM ET
And then boo when he turns the puck over on his first shift.
- BroadSTmayhem


No boos. Crowd is hockey savvy enough to realize how spoiled they've been.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
I'm expecting Yandle to get a thunderous 2 minute standing ovation for tying the record tonight. The fans will acknowledge what a tremendous accomplishment this is.
- PLindbergh31


Cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not but it is really is an accomplishment. Guy hasnt missed a day of work in approx 12 years. That is incredible especially for hockey where injuries are common and your body takes a beating on a daily basis.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
Cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not but it is really is an accomplishment. Guy hasnt missed a day of work in approx 12 years. That is incredible especially for hockey where injuries are common and your body takes a beating on a daily basis.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Agreed. Yeah a bit tongue and cheek. It is a great accomplishment considering how physical NHL hockey is.

He's only played 41 games for the Flyers in which he's been awful, and the team is a laughing stock. Flyers would be best off to not even acknowledge it. I mean they didn't acknowledge what would have been Ed Snider's 89th birthday, so I'm sure they will handle it appropriately.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
The Flyers since Snider died have about the same record as they did in the last five seasons of his ownership. Doesn't seem like much of a turning point to me.

Really, since the salary cap started in 2005 they have had one great playoff run and that was a season where they had the 18th= best regular season record and were lucky just to make the playoffs.

- Feanor


The Flyers have never truly adapted to the Salary cap. One GM tried to but they booted him out.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
For all the folks who say tanking doesn’t work, the Penguins are a great example of it working. What did they pick #1 #1 #2 and get fleury Crosby and Malkin. Not sure of the exact order but you get it.
- ClaudeFather


All we need to do is tank and get two generational superstars.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
I actually highly dislike the league's "lottery", Pens/Rags/Oilers, whomever it is. The Flyers have only ever had 1 first overall pick and they traded to get it! Sorry but Clarke pointing out that Hextall didn't agree with his scouts and took Nolan Patrick isn't a public trashing.
- aantny88


Sure it is. His objective was obviously to blame Hextall for the Flyers mess to protect his buddy Fletcher.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
Cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not but it is really is an accomplishment. Guy hasnt missed a day of work in approx 12 years. That is incredible especially for hockey where injuries are common and your body takes a beating on a daily basis.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


If it was a credible situation, he should've missed numerous games by now.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
The Flyers have never truly adapted to the Salary cap. One GM tried to but they booted him out.
- MJL

Consistent Cliff. Still defending his dad Saint Ronnie, cant you let it go?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
Sure it is. His objective was obviously to blame Hextall for the Flyers mess to protect his buddy Fletcher.
- MJL

Did Clarke defend Fletcher at all? Yes or no?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
I’m petrified what Fletcher may do leading up the TDL. A desperate man attempting to hold onto his job is not a good situation this time of year. I just hope to god regardless of his job security, he knows what needs to happen with this team as we approach the deadline.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
Two teams with the same amount of points as the 09-10 Flyers didn't make the playoffs that season. Do their fans talk about how great those teams were?
- Feanor


They are part of the 1% “get in and anything can happen” club, IMO

Loved that team during the run but there is a reason it was dismantled shortly after.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jan 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
Did Clarke defend Fletcher at all? Yes or no?
- hello it's me 2050


Yes.

That’s why we’re struggling , Hexy made some huge mistakes ... We’ve got a long ways to go to catch up.”

By squarely laying the problems of the current roster on a GM that was fired 4 years ago he is by default defending Fletcher. He didn't need to mention him by name because he absolved everyone not named Hextall of any sins. He also failed to mention any of Hextall's positives.

To paraphrase, he did not come to praise Hextall but to bury him. The mistakes that men do is remembered after their deaths, but the good is often buried with them

Edit : Hextall is not a Saint, he screwed up plenty but at least he had a long term vision for a salary cap world which i've yet to see from anyone else.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
What is the Leafs prospect pool looking like? I’m willing to bet they aren’t willing to give the Flyers anything that can fix this message or help fix it. The Flyers cannot miss if they’re gonna trade Giroux.
- SuperSchennBros


This is what I’m most nervous about with Fletcher. (frank)ing up trading away our long tenured captain.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Yes.

That’s why we’re struggling , Hexy made some huge mistakes ... We’ve got a long ways to go to catch up.”

By squarely laying the problems of the current roster on a GM that was fired 4 years ago he is by default defending Fletcher. He didn't need to mention him by name because he absolved everyone not named Hextall of any sins. He also failed to mention any of Hextall's positives.

To paraphrase, he did not come to praise Hextall but to bury him. The mistakes that men do is remembered after their deaths, but the good is often buried with them

- Flyers_01

All of whihc is true in that quote.

Do not see any Fletcher defending. When Fletcher is gone and if asked I have zero doubt Clarke will say Fletcher made mistakes.

You do realize the interview was about Clarke's career right? less the last 2 minutes or so.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 5:30 PM ET
I’m petrified what Fletcher may do leading up the TDL. A desperate man attempting to hold onto his job is not a good situation this time of year. I just hope to god regardless of his job security, he knows what needs to happen with this team as we approach the deadline.
- funmaster18


I'm not terrified of the deadline. I'm terrified of what they're going to do this next off season if they have significant cap space.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
This is what I’m most nervous about with Fletcher. (frank)ing up trading away our long tenured captain.
- funmaster18


Can someone tell me why seeler is playing on the 4th line tonight? I thought it was a joke but looks to be a real life nightmare.

Don’t we not have any better options?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jan 24 @ 5:35 PM ET
Can someone tell me why seeler is playing on the 4th line tonight? I thought it was a joke but looks to be a real life nightmare.

Don’t we not have any better options?

- Hextall271


Incompetent management and coaches.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 24 @ 5:36 PM ET
The Flyers have never truly adapted to the Salary cap. One GM tried to but they booted him out.
- MJL


they really haven't. Since the adoption of the cap, the Flyers have only really made 2 deep runs into the playoffs (at least the 3rd round). And none since 2010.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 24 @ 5:36 PM ET
Incompetent management and coaches.
- hello it's me 2050


That’s what I thought.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
Yes.

That’s why we’re struggling , Hexy made some huge mistakes ... We’ve got a long ways to go to catch up.”

By squarely laying the problems of the current roster on a GM that was fired 4 years ago he is by default defending Fletcher. He didn't need to mention him by name because he absolved everyone not named Hextall of any sins. He also failed to mention any of Hextall's positives.

To paraphrase, he did not come to praise Hextall but to bury him. The mistakes that men do is remembered after their deaths, but the good is often buried with them

- Flyers_01



Clarke is simply stating the lack of depth is on Hextall. The reality is, a huge issue with the Flyers has been depth. The fact is when guys like Giroux, Couturier and Hayes are hurt they have no one down the lineup that can step up. The fact is none of our prospects are really panning out as expected.

Nolan Patrick, Rubstov, Ratcliffe, Strome, Cates, Laberge, Twarynski, Bunnaman, Vorobyev, Kase ect have been busts

Sanheim, Ghost, Konecny, NAK, Myers and Frost have disappointed after showing promise.

How long before Farabee, York, Hart, Sandstrom and Zamula join them?

In fairness to Hexy we never drafted that well to begin with. Our history is flooded with busts and bottom 6 picks. In the last 22 years the best 1st round picks we made were:

Justin Williams - 2000
Richards, Carter - 2003
Giroux - 2006
JVR - 2007
Couturier - 2011
Provorov - 2015
----------------------TBD
Farabee - 2018
York - 2019
Forester - 2020


xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 24 @ 5:46 PM ET
Can someone tell me why seeler is playing on the 4th line tonight? I thought it was a joke but looks to be a real life nightmare.

Don’t we not have any better options?

- Hextall271


Sure but Im sure the team is embracing the tank at this point.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 24 @ 5:48 PM ET
The Flyers have never truly adapted to the Salary cap. One GM tried to but they booted him out.
- MJL


He tried, but even he buckled and signed a UFA for too much money and term, too early.

The fact that this team is probably in need of another salary cap reset so soon is really hard to believe. CF has really (frank)ed them over.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 5:49 PM ET
Can someone tell me why seeler is playing on the 4th line tonight? I thought it was a joke but looks to be a real life nightmare.

Don’t we not have any better options?

- Hextall271


Phantoms have played back to back games so any forward they would call up would be playing 3 in 3.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 5:49 PM ET
He tried, but even he buckled and signed a UFA for too much money and term, too early.

The fact that this team is probably in need of another salary cap reset so soon is really hard to believe. CF has really (frank)ed them over.

- Tomahawk



Yes, which I believe was to try and appease upstairs. Speculation on my part but that's what I think.
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