boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Yet there are some fans that wished to have followed his plan for the team, even though he wasn't qualified for the job. - manvanfan
Everywhere Linden has been in hockey has ended with him at odds with his bosses or peers. I just find it strange that this fact never sticks to his reputation. Most likely because the local media has always sympathized and protected him.
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I felt like Linden was a PR puppet, and the second he stopped doing what looked good, was when he got canned. I think the sedins were bored and wanted involvement and now here we are - Codes1087
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Any stand alone hiring I would not even bat an eye. Two female hiring's in one week and a third on the way sounds to me like they may have an agenda. I never even said it was a bad thing . I know I haven't said I don't like the hiring's . I am just questioning the reasoning.
Again I am stating the obvious there have probably been 10 female hiring's in the NHL in the last 10 years , so three in a month could raise questions. - VANTEL
I think JR is just trying to make the management group tougher that the players on the ice, not hard to do. |
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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: AB Joined: 03.08.2006
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I question and still don't understand why the sedins were hired. I don't think it's good for the organization but that's just me. Seems as though they were twiddling their thumbs in retirement as their kids still attended school in Vancouver and were gift wrapped positions to learn and grow. Only difference is, they presumably aren't given authority to make any major decisions.
I just see emilies resume, experience, and accolades and see it as a great hire. The fact that she is a women is a distant second to what she brings. - Codes1087
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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What are the requirements to be a qualified GM? I'll accept bullet points. - manvanfan
Seriously, if people can't see the difference between "qualified" or "most qualified you can find", I don't have much time for the discussion. This discussion has been downgraded to who is more qualified than other rookie AGM's. Linden is a pathetic benchmark for who I want running departments as high as AGM.
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I think JR is just trying to make the management group tougher that the players on the ice, not hard to do. - A_SteamingLombardi
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Seriously, if people can't see the difference between "qualified" or "most qualified you can find", I don't have much time for the discussion. This discussion has been downgraded to who is more qualified than other rookie AGM's. Linden is a pathetic benchmark for who I want running departments as high as AGM.
- boonerbuck
To be fair, what person in here is qualified to answer your question lol
There isn't a single person in here who could answer. |
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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: AB Joined: 03.08.2006
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He wanted to mentor the GM not the AGMs and all the way down to Zamboni drivers.
So it sounds like he may hire a GM with no previous GM experience and now a AGM with no previous AGM experience , promote Ryan Johnson to a new higher position.
See a familiar pattern forming here? - VANTEL
In hiring people with no experience in their new positions, yes I see your point.
However, if they have relevant experience in the field then I have no problem with it as, unlike before, we have a very experienced POHO now to oversee and guide these new hires.
If not, Holland will be available soon, you want him and his wealth of experience? |
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He wanted to mentor the GM not the AGMs and all the way down to Zamboni drivers.
So it sounds like he may hire a GM with no previous GM experience and now a AGM with no previous AGM experience , promote Ryan Johnson to a new higher position.
See a familiar pattern forming here? - VANTEL
He hired Derek Clancey as another AGM, who is also an experienced hockey guy. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I felt like Linden was a PR puppet, and the second he stopped doing what looked good, was when he got canned. I think the sedins were bored and wanted involvement and now here we are - Codes1087
Linden certainly seemed like a PR puppet. He spent 2 decades in the game. I would gather he probably picked up more than a few things about the management side along the way. Sedin's are pretty much the same. They are learning more day to day now. Question becomes with all these new hired people, where do they fit in long term? Or do they at all? |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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To be fair, what person in here is qualified to answer your question lol - Codes1087
Then this also can be said about the level of confidence people have or the statements they make.
It's a matter of discussion when we post in here. That's all.
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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I assume that person would also have to fit into the philosophy of the POHO. - Reubenkincade
Lawrence Gilman,worked as an exec at Nike before he was hired. I remember people being excited about the hire even though he had little to no experience in an NHL front office. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Seriously, if people can't see the difference between "qualified" or "most qualified you can find", I don't have much time for the discussion. This discussion has been downgraded to who is more qualified than other rookie AGM's. Linden is a pathetic benchmark for who I want running departments as high as AGM.
- boonerbuck
I don't see why Rutherford isn't after Stan Bowman then. He's probably the best most qualified out there.
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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He wanted to mentor the GM not the AGMs and all the way down to Zamboni drivers.
So it sounds like he may hire a GM with no previous GM experience and now a AGM with no previous AGM experience , promote Ryan Johnson to a new higher position.
See a familiar pattern forming here? - VANTEL
The only difference is that it is being led by a president with decades of experience. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Lawrence Gilman,worked as an exec at Nike before he was hired. I remember people being excited about the hire even though he had little to no experience in an NHL front office. - Marwood
His 9 previous years with Arizona/Phoenix had nothing to do with it? |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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I think JR is just trying to make the management group tougher that the players on the ice, not hard to do. - A_SteamingLombardi
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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: AB Joined: 03.08.2006
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Then this also can be said about the level of confidence people have or the statements they make.
It's a matter of discussion when we post in here. That's all. - boonerbuck
I look at it this way,
If JR has done an exhaustive search, like the 40 or so candidates for the GM job. Then I'm sure he weighed this decision against other possible candidates as well. She has the paper education, the contract negotiation experience, and a history to back it up. If this AGM position is for contracts and cap issues, she should be able to handle and hopefully excel at it. It doesn't seem she will have ultimate power to make the final call on anything as an AGM. |
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In hiring people with no experience in their new positions, yes I see your point.
However, if they have relevant experience in the field then I have no problem with it as, unlike before, we have a very experienced POHO now to oversee and guide these new hires.
If not, Holland will be available soon, you want him and his wealth of experience? - carsonagenic
I go back again to Gillis Linden and Benning all having some sort of related hockey experience . Hiring a new GM with no GM experience and a new AGM with no AGM experience , promoting RyJo to a position he has never done and promoting the Sedins as a PR puppets sounds all to familiar . I think we just got rid of something similar and Canuck history could be repeating itself.
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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: AB Joined: 03.08.2006
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I don't see why Rutherford isn't after Stan Bowman then. He's probably the best most qualified out there. - manvanfan
a little too soon perhaps...
#helpedcoverupasexualassault |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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His 9 previous years with Arizona/Phoenix had nothing to do with it? - manvanfan
I couldn't remember if he was in Arizona before or after Nike. My brother worked with him at Nike, said he was a bit of a geek but really smart. |
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Lawrence Gilman,worked as an exec at Nike before he was hired. I remember people being excited about the hire even though he had little to no experience in an NHL front office. - Marwood
When I mention I would like to see experience in the front office, it doesn't mean I want to see every single person hired having experience.
I am happy with how Rutherford is setting up his management group and am also happy he is taking his time assessing the players in the organization.
I will not be shocked if he names Allvin or Weekes as GM, nor will I be surprised if he names another female to the staff, in the scouting department. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I don't see why Rutherford isn't after Stan Bowman then. He's probably the best most qualified out there. - manvanfan
A very reasonable question. Did I expect JR to aim that high... probably not but there are probably a lot of people available on the ladder up to that level of experience that this team would benefit from.
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carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: AB Joined: 03.08.2006
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I go back again to Gillis Linden and Benning all having some sort of related hockey experience . Hiring a new GM with no GM experience and a new AGM with no AGM experience , promoting RyJo to a position he has never done and promoting the Sedins as a PR puppets sounds all to familiar . I think we just got rid of something similar and Canuck history could be repeating itself. - VANTEL
Once again Rutherford as POHO is the difference |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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The only difference is that it is being led by a president with decades of experience. - Marwood
Fair...
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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a little too soon perhaps...
#helpedcoverupasexualassault - carsonagenic
Yeah probably for forever.
Some in here though, they only want people with previous experience. Personally, I'd take a few up and comers vs the skeletons in some of these guys closets. |
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