Load Management
Season Ticket Holder Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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I dont think any person gets handed a job without fitting requirements or having credentials/experience to do the job, especially a job of that stature. I understand the question given how prevalent the media has been in regards to hiring females, but I don't think it really has anything to do with it. It's a multi million dollar franchise run by an egotistical owner who is hellbent on making money. I doubt he signs off on a 6 digit or more salary just to appease the fanbase on gender equality. - Codes1087
I have no horse in this race, but you don't actually believe this do you? |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Hired to keep the fans happy - VANTEL
I guess I need to eat crow. It was a useless hire then as it was now. |
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Was she supposed to say, no Jim, 3million for 4 years is to much, how about 1.5 for 2 years.
It was mentioned sometime ago that the Canucks would be adding women to the management group, this is not a new revelation. - Reubenkincade
Any one hiring would not cause questioning. Hiring three in one month sounds like an agenda.
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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I have no horse in this race, but you don't actually believe this do you? - Load Management
For the most part, of course I do.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. - VANTEL
Neither does trying the same thing over and over again.
I think they are building a strong management style with a vocal group that will have input into many of the decisions made. |
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Let's be fair, the most recent fired GM has destroyed the team for years and years, as well. - Reubenkincade
But we didn't get to riot this time, just a plane with a banner. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Bunch of butthurt old dudes in here eh - NewYorkNuck
Why does asking questions equate to this?
A hiring for a major position was just made... these are legit questions about qualifications. I have expressed many times that I am tired of alumni or BC connection hiring's for this team and just want the best qualifications possible... that statement applies to everything about management hirings. It seems like questions about qualifications regarded a hiring are being treated out of line because she is a woman... if it were a man... the discussion wouldn't be treated with this kind of attitude. Try and be more open minded. If she is the most qualified, I can get behind that 100%... where as some are showing right now, that takes a back seat to a different agenda.
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Hired to keep the fans happy - VANTEL
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Neither does trying the same thing over and over again.
I think they are building a strong management style with a vocal group that will have input into many of the decisions made. - Reubenkincade
Rutherford said from day one that he was looking to diversify the front office. I guess hiring 2 women is going too far. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Any one hiring would not cause questioning. Hiring three in one month sounds like an agenda. - VANTEL
I dont think it was as much of the canucks saying they needed to hire women, as much as they interviewed woman who were qualified.
If they hired botterill, who many in here wanted, would people still be raising the same questions?
Women are becoming more prevalent across all major sports franchises. From reffing, to coaching, to general managing, to sports trainers and equipment NHL trainers, to teams sports physiotherapists. There has always been a small disproportionate amount of women in sports across all positions, it's just now they are getting involved or higher spotlight roles. |
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Two does not make a 'bunch'. - Marwood
Some of us old dudes are happy with this hiring. |
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Neither does trying the same thing over and over again.
I think they are building a strong management style with a vocal group that will have input into many of the decisions made. - Reubenkincade
You mean like hiring people in positions with no previous experience? Benning Green Linden Gillis . The list just got bigger.
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I dont think any person gets handed a job without fitting requirements or having credentials/experience to do the job, especially a job of that stature. I understand the question given how prevalent the media has been in regards to hiring females, but I don't think it really has anything to do with it. It's a multi million dollar franchise run by an egotistical owner who is hellbent on making money. I doubt he signs off on a 6 digit or more salary just to appease the fanbase on gender equality. - Codes1087
Jim Rutherford said when he was hired that he would be looking to fill positions with woman. So he is actually on record... that does not mean she's not the most qualified but at the same time, the question isn't out of line.
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I guess I need to eat crow. It was a useless hire then as it was now. - Codes1087
No kidding. The NHL has no shortage of useless hirings on record. Canucks have their fair share....
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Some of us old dudes are happy with this hiring. - Reubenkincade
I haven't stated if I am happy or not . Booner and I are just saying Canucks seem to be hiring to fill quotas.
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Neither does trying the same thing over and over again.
I think they are building a strong management style with a vocal group that will have input into many of the decisions made. - Reubenkincade
Bingo
Differing roles & more ppl in the room giving input. About time management isn't the ol boys club. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Some of us old dudes are happy with this hiring. - Reubenkincade
I'm not unhappy. I have nothing to complain about yet. Management hasnt even been fully formed yet. Questions mean you are unhappy? How dare people want this reset to go well....
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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You mean like hiring people in positions with no previous experience? Benning Green Linden Gillis . The list just got bigger. - VANTEL
I think people are over looking this. This is why the questions are reasonable.
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Jim Rutherford said when he was hired that he would be looking to fill positions with woman. So he is actually on record... that does not mean she's not the most qualified but at the same time, the question isn't out of line. - boonerbuck
I still don't quite get what your question is though. Her credentials and experience were listed in the hiring statement by the club. She's well qualified. In terms of actually being an actual AGM, and relative to the qualifications of other AGMs or even some GMs that were hired. If she was a man and those credentials were listed, would there be a question? Her credentials exceed that of Mike Gillis who had a law degree and was a player agent? |
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I dont think it was as much of the canucks saying they needed to hire women, as much as they interviewed woman who were qualified.
If they hired botterill, who many in here wanted, would people still be raising the same questions?
Women are becoming more prevalent across all major sports franchises. From reffing, to coaching, to general managing, to sports trainers and equipment NHL trainers, to teams sports physiotherapists. There has always been a small disproportionate amount of women in sports across all positions, it's just now they are getting involved or higher spotlight roles. - Codes1087
They just hired an analytics person who basically called the management group idiots and wanted to change the owner. That is a really ballsy hiring or one of the dumbest in history of hockey. We will find out. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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They just hired an analytics person who basically called the management group idiots and wanted to change the owner. That is a really ballsy hiring or one of the dumbest in history of hockey. We will find out. - VANTEL
Ryan biech constantly made fun of Benning, his trades and his signings and he was also hired? His entire tweet history was deleted as soon as the canucks announced the hiring. Your personal public opinion, as long as it stays within the realm of not being a POS, doesn't disclude you from being hired from a job if you're qualified |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I haven't stated if I am happy or not . Booner and I are just saying Canucks seem to be hiring to fill quotas. - VANTEL
I havent gone that far. I'm trying to figure that out is all.... I'm not going act like it's my duty to get behind something simply because they are a woman either.
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I still don't quite get what your question is though. Her credentials and experience were listed in the hiring statement by the club. She's well qualified. In terms of actually being an actual AGM, and relative to the qualifications of other AGMs or even some GMs that were hired. If she was a man and those credentials were listed, would there be a question? Her credentials exceed that of Mike Gillis who had a law degree and was a player agent? - Codes1087
I see what people are holding up as NHL qualifications for a AGM... many of them are not actually.
About what was in bold... you have a short memory or have a built in filter. There were many on here who asked the same questions about the Linden hiring... great guy but is he qualified? Even I presented this question about Gillis when he was hired as GM. Why is being a sleezy agent who the rest of the NHL dosnt trust and hates a qualified choice? He hasnt had a job with a team since either...
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You mean like hiring people in positions with no previous experience? Benning Green Linden Gillis . The list just got bigger. - VANTEL
I understand that argument, but anyone that doesn't have "experience" in the role they are hired for, are still under the watch of Rutherford, who has decades of experience.
The most recent hire, Emilie Castonguay, is hired as an AGM, in charge of negotiation and other contractual items, which she has experience for.
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Rutherford said from day one that he was looking to diversify the front office. I guess hiring 2 women is going too far. - Marwood
I was hoping for 3 women hired in prominent positions.
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